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Generic Monk posted:i have no idea how shazam was making money actually. I believe users search for a song and get an iTunes/Amazon purchase link once the songs's been identified. Shazam would then take a cut of the MP3 purchase. Basically referral links! I don't know whether that's the bulk of their revenue, but it would explain why they were acquired for only a fraction of their earlier valuation -- the purchases of MP3s have tanked as streaming has picked up.
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 /\Link/\ the writer of the article posted:In 2016, Patreon boasted that 7,960 users were now making over $100 a month, which struck me as such an insignificant monthly income to brag about. Around the same time, the company reportedly had 25,000 creators, meaning only 31 percent of Patreon’s users were making over a hundred bucks. Stepping back a page, but this points out the reality of crowdfunding (if we treat patreon as such) websites: very, very, very few people make any real money on them. Also, hilarious placement for a Macallan whiskey ad.
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Trabant posted:I believe users search for a song and get an iTunes/Amazon purchase link once the songs's been identified. Shazam would then take a cut of the MP3 purchase. Basically referral links! yea i don't get they got some form of kickback from online stores for including them on the results page. at least on iphone they've very heavily featured apple music for ages so u do get streaming links, although the value of those is probably so low as to be practically meaningless. come to think of it at least in the uk there were a few tv adverts that told you to shazam the advert to 'enrich your experience' or something. i can't really think of anything i'd like to do less but some cokehead marketer probably got a nice bonus for that idea ryonguy posted:
in the brave new libertarian paradise that is functionally indistinguishable from victorian paternalism the only proles not in the workhouse will be the ones cranking out podcasts and furry porn i wonder what chapo is actually doing with their money? the only major improvement in production quality this year is shouty matt 'shoes look like a fam' christman's audio not clipping to gently caress the entire time. hope they're paying their guests bigly at least Generic Monk fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Dec 12, 2017 |
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Dec 12, 2017 18:39
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ryonguy posted:
I'm the missing one 100-500$ bar
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Brain Curry posted:I'm the missing one 100-500$ bar Ha ha, I didn't notice that. Good eye. Still doesn't change the sentiment that nobody is making much money; even if that bar accounts for 99% of users, it's still less than $500 a month.
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ryonguy posted:Ha ha, I didn't notice that. Good eye. Still doesn't change the sentiment that nobody is making much money; even if that bar accounts for 99% of users, it's still less than $500 a month. Is it supposed to be your primary income?if you make a once a week art tutorial, also have ads on the video and also sell merch (the art) then 500 seems not bad at all as some six hour a week side thing you’d be getting zero dollars from normally
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After a full year of self owning, the Soylent robot man is stepping down as CEO http://amp.grubstreet.com/2017/12/soylent-ceo-rob-rhinehart-steps-down-after-a-not-so-good-year.html?__twitter_impression=true
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Is it supposed to be your primary income?if you make a once a week art tutorial, also have ads on the video and also sell merch (the art) then 500 seems not bad at all as some six hour a week side thing you’d be getting zero dollars from normally I think Patreon thinks it ought to be your primary income (see "life-changing amount") but most of the artists and writers I support think of it as "buying groceries the fourth week of the month" and "replacing my tablet/laptop when it breaks" money. e: drat, look at this blog post by crazy Soylent founder. He hates doing laundry, so he has cheap clothing shipped from China (!) wears it until dirty and donates to charity. Arsenic Lupin fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Dec 12, 2017 |
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Arsenic Lupin posted:e: drat, look at this blog post by crazy Soylent founder. He hates doing laundry, so he has cheap clothing shipped from China (!) wears it until dirty and donates to charity. he also nuked his gut flora with powerful antibiotics to see how long he could go in between poops
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:That seems pretty reasonable, a ton of stuff someone could invent wouldn't make any sense as a stand alone product. If you invented an algorithm that perfectly found every cat in a photo you could maybe sell it as a boring novelty toy on shelves or maybe put in a weird gimmick app. It'd be a pretty useless product. edit: no, we need to go deeper, steal the name from that one bunnygirl NPC in FF12 KTJN
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I hate everybodyquote:The San Francisco Business Times reported last week that the San Francisco SPCA, an animal advocacy and pet adoption group, put a security robot to work outside its facilities in the gentrifying Mission neighborhood. The robot's presence is meant to deter homeless people from setting up camps along the sidewalks. quote:K9 is part of a crime-fighting robot fleet manufactured and managed by startup Knightscope in Mountain View, California. The company's robots don't fight humans; they use equipment like lasers, cameras, a thermal sensor, and GPS to detect criminal activity and alert the authorities.
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Doggles posted:Game show licensing deals! For one million dollars dollars
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Is it supposed to be your primary income?if you make a once a week art tutorial, also have ads on the video and also sell merch (the art) then 500 seems not bad at all as some six hour a week side thing you’d be getting zero dollars from normally Poisonous Rabbit said it best, Patreon wants to pretend it is, but it's clearly not. Now, later on when it's a mature service industry, it may be more practical. However, in the end it's a digital tip jar, and despite its features and benefits in practice it doesn't do all that much more than a PayPal donation button from 2005 did. In fact I could have sworn PayPal had some sort of recurring payment plan system in place at one point. Arsenic Lupin posted:e: drat, look at this blog post by crazy Soylent founder. He hates doing laundry, so he has cheap clothing shipped from China (!) wears it until dirty and donates to charity. 
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If I recall correctly, the "clothing" the soylent dude buys are only nylon flightsuits because he doesn't need to wear a shirt, pants or shoes with them. Also means that no one wants to wear that poo poo even as a donation.
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ryonguy posted:Patreon wants to pretend it is, but it's clearly not. Do they actually pretend that or does it just make a funny point if we pretend they do? There is very clearly loads of patreons that aren't 40 hour a week projects.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:I hate everybody I just did a GIS for those things because this is the first I've heard of them. One of the very first things that pops up is an image of one after falling into a public fountain.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:I hate everybody That model kills itself rather than people: https://twitter.com/bilalfarooqui/status/887025375754166272
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One of them also tried to murder some little kid in Stanford mall. I guess the kid was too small for the robot to detect (or too swarthy to care) and ran over / pinned the kid. The robots weigh like 350 lbs so imagine an autonomous battlebot deaf to everyone but it's corporate masters going on a toddler crushing rampage.
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^ efb!!! fishmech posted:That model kills itself rather than people: The K5 model runs over small children http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/14/technology/robot-stanford-mall/index.html
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Panfilo posted:One of them also tried to murder some little kid in Stanford mall. I guess the kid was too small for the robot to detect (or too swarthy to care) and ran over / pinned the kid. The robots weigh like 350 lbs so imagine an autonomous battlebot deaf to everyone but it's corporate masters going on a toddler crushing rampage. Cold robot logic probably calculated that that kid was going to be homeless at some point and decided to nip that poo poo in the bud. Gotta respect the almighty artificial intelligence.
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spca has all those free dogs but they waste money on a guard robot smh
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They aren't killer robots, just narcs. Killing homeless people is still a job for honest, red-blooded human cops.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:I hate everybody Also: quote:Knightscope rents out the robots for $7 an hour — less than a security guard's hourly wage. The company has over 19 clients in five US states. Most customers, including Microsoft, Uber, and Juniper Networks, put the robots to work patrolling parking lots and office buildings. Pay a goddamn human a living wage to run off the people who are not paid a living wage if abject suffering offends you so much. Jfc.
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We must build socialist robots to protect the homeless
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Arsenic Lupin posted:I hate everybody This might work on those west coast hippy homeless, but if they put that stupid thing in New York, or Detroit, or D.C., someone will gently caress its camera holes on the first night, and use its still-pulsating pneumatic heart to keep warm while he sleeps.
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Veni Vidi Ameche! posted:This might work on those west coast hippy homeless, but if they put that stupid thing in New York, or Detroit, or D.C., someone will gently caress its camera holes on the first night, and use its still-pulsating pneumatic heart to keep warm while he sleeps. You really don't think twitchy people in San Francisco haven't already defiled every USB port on those robots already? 
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Inescapable Duck posted:We must build socialist robots to protect the homeless But then the capitalist Tech-Bros will build anti-robot robots.
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Panfilo posted:One of them also tried to murder some little kid in Stanford mall. I guess the kid was too small for the robot to detect (or too swarthy to care) and ran over / pinned the kid. The robots weigh like 350 lbs so imagine an autonomous battlebot deaf to everyone but it's corporate masters going on a toddler crushing rampage. One step closer to the future envisioned by Chopping Mall.
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quote:Knightscope, which makes the robot, said the machine veered to the left to avoid the child, but the toddler ran backwards directly in the front of the machine.  even if that ridiculous bullshit is true how does that explain it running the kid over? does it not have brakes or the ability to stop? or did the kid deserve it?
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While we're getting Shadowrun up in here, can we hack the robots to turn them against their masters?
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Condiv posted:
It has a Darwin subroutine to weed out the weak and sick.
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Veni Vidi Ameche! posted:This might work on those west coast hippy homeless, but if they put that stupid thing in New York, or Detroit, or D.C., someone will gently caress its camera holes on the first night, and use its still-pulsating pneumatic heart to keep warm while he sleeps. Is that a stereotype? It always seems the opposite, the east cost has more of the classic idea of homeless that sit on the street wearing tattered clothes looking sad and it’s the west coast that has homeless people visibly on scary drugs that aggressively take over areas.
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This is anecdotal, but people from the east coast have said that they've never seen people shoot up heroin in the open before until they came to San Francisco.
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Inescapable Duck posted:We must build socialist robots to protect the homeless Sanctuary robots.
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GrandpaPants posted:This is anecdotal, but people from the east coast have said that they've never seen people shoot up heroin in the open before until they came to San Francisco. Yeah, exactly that. I've been to a lot of cities in a lot of countries including some third world ones and seattle and SF both feel like they really have managed to get homelessness to some crazy next level. Like it's not like you never see high people in new york or anything, but you can spend like 30 minutes in downtown seattle or SF and like see some guy laying on the street with a giant open leg wound pushing it around with a little twig or a woman peeing in the middle of a busy sidewalk. Like the guy said he doesn't want to derail about SF homelessness and it is pretty out of the scope of this thread and robot guards is so clearly not the right answer but an SPCA is the mission could definitely be having real problems beyond "eww I don't want to look at yucky poor people" and not have a good way to deal with it.
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Everything else aside I can't stop laughing at the words "over 19 clients". Even if one is apparently Microsoft there's no way that doesn't actually mean "exactly 20".
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Veni Vidi Ameche! posted:This might work on those west coast hippy homeless, but if they put that stupid thing in New York, or Detroit, or D.C., someone will gently caress its camera holes on the first night, and use its still-pulsating pneumatic heart to keep warm while he sleeps. San Francisco Business Times quote:“We weren’t able to use the sidewalks at all when there’s needles and tents and bikes, so from a walking standpoint I find the robot much easier to navigate than an encampment,” Jennifer Scarlett, the S.F. SPCA’s president, told the Business Times. Also, I'm not a dude, I'm a gal.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewherper/2017/12/13/this-startup-has-a-new-crispr-enzyme-and-says-it-will-give-it-away-for-free/quote:A startup says it has discovered a new CRISPR enzyme for editing DNA, one of the hottest areas in biotech. Naturally, it is going to give it away for free.
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