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D_Smart posted:https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/940947796794003457 at first glance I thought this said Kevin Mitnick and was like oh god another old school warlord has hit the building 
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BurtLington posted:It's time for Space Court It's time for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGRsEF953n0 is what it is.
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BurtLington posted:It's time for Space Court  I love you.
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G0RF posted:Yes it really might finally be time to start drafting their “At least they tried” eulogies. If any of you lurkers need a primer, or just want to Archer one outright, Nedan’s Ion Storm piece may be long in the tooth but has stood the test of time: I can't wait for the claims that CR both invented space games and is too inexperienced to avoid failure
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Dusty Lens posted:I guess instead of war bonds CIG can start selling bail bonds. STOP BEING SO drat FUNNY GUYS OR I WILL NEVER GET CAUGHT UP!
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If they get the injunction to stop work on the game whilst this goes through the court this is all going to be over very quickly as regards the actual game. Also - moma is full of poo poo, they could have settled this before it got this far, the ONLY reason they haven't is because they couldn't, as in couldn't afford it. So instead of settling and avoiding the risk of an injunction they've ended up with the threat of injunction hanging over the project, and the worst possible PR you can have whilst you post job vacancies on an almost daily basis. Derek was right about the money. Even IF they knock down each and every claim in court they'll be doing so in an environment of not being able to hire at best and not being allowed to continue development at worst. TL;DR Derek Smart was right.
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VictorianQueerLit posted:I thought about making fun of this argument.  Checkmate.
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Daztek posted:I also always knew MoMA is in fact Toast hosed up if true
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Someone make an effortpost for the OP. Things are about to heat up.
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TheAgent posted:If any asset has a single trace of CryEngine or CryTek technology, or was built or modified using those technologies, those go as well. CIG would be looking at starting from complete scratch, Lumberyard or no. They'd still have all the concept art, so that's like 60% of everything safe.
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nnnotime posted:If there is no settlement, is there any chance Dr. Derek Smart will be called upon as an expert witness in this Crytek trial by the plaintiffs? Do we dare dream?
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Hav posted:Edit: One small 'Ortwin has something to do' wrinkle; he's named in the complaint. He's named in the complaint for very naughty things, too. If there's ever a finding of fact over those (and I emphasise right now they are merely pleadings in a lawsuit), he might be facing a professional conduct investigation from his Bar. One more possible reason for a sealed settlement.
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Crazypoops posted:Do we dare dream? Amicus curiae would leave me in stitches for weeks. Unlikely, though. Loxbourne posted:He's named in the complaint for very naughty things, too. If there's ever a finding of fact over those (and I emphasise right now they are merely pleadings in a lawsuit), he might be facing a professional conduct investigation from his Bar. I checked that he's still active on the California bar; http://members.calbar.ca.gov/fal/Member/Detail/135334 The more I think about it; he's co-chairman of CiG. They are going after him and Bobbers. Hav fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Dec 13, 2017 |
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So you're saying I won't be seeing a trailer for SQ42 in the theater on Friday?
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SomethingJones posted:If they get the injunction to stop work on the game whilst this goes through the court this is all going to be over very quickly as regards the actual game. Lol, bingo. A good day.
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thatguy posted:Someone make an effortpost for the OP. Things are about to heat up. Ok, here goes: "It is time to rub"
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biglads posted:This means another Christmas with no santaball, doesn't it? Yes, but it means we get two Christmases in row — this early one and then the real one, and maybe even a few more after that.
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What got called? I'm a million pages behind
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Bayonnefrog posted:It's bad publicity for CIG sure. But I'm going to do a "wait and see" approach to this. Filling a suit is one thing. Anyone can do that. What the courts do with it is another. It says he is filling for breach of contract and copyright infringement. That may very well be true I'm not a lawyer and will let the experts handle all of that. On the breach of contract side I will say it looks like they are trying to argue that Crytec agreement with CIG was for ONLY ONE game. What they consider to be "Star Citizen" but then CIG went and used their engine (against the agreement) for other games (SQ42, etc etc). CIG is going to argue that they're all the same game and that they were fine to use it for all of that. I think they might have an argument there. But we'll see. Will be fascinating to see how it plays how. The court might toss it out at the start but with a big legal team behind this they will probably get it to a hearing somewhere down the road. You know, Derek was slinging those rumors around earlier this year that CIG was going to roll SQ42 back up into Star Citizen and just present it as a series of missions in the multiplayer game. Wonder if this is why.
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juggalo baby coffin posted:What got called? I'm a million pages behind Crytek is suing CIG for everything.
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juggalo baby coffin posted:What got called? I'm a million pages behind https://www.scribd.com/document/367101474/Crytek-v-CIG Crytek, lots of contract breach, want all the marbles.
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Hav posted:https://www.scribd.com/document/367101474/Crytek-v-CIG This is good for Star Citizen, because it just shows how much envy there is for those who create record breaking games!
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Kilmers Elbow posted:guess it means sandi's going back to clips4sale Not a bad thing. That's where she shines.
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Hav posted:Amicus curiae would leave me in stitches for weeks. Unlikely, though. They named good ol' Ortwin in the complaint for one reason--disqualification. I guarantee that if Ortwin tries to represent Croberts & Co. in court that Skadden will immediately move to disqualify Ortwin for conflict of interest/ethical concerns. Thus, CIG will be forced to hire another lawyer for real $$$$ instead of relying on Ortwin. Makes the defense more expensive for our beloved game company.
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Kilmers Elbow posted:guess it means sandi's going back to clips4sale 
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AP posted:10 for the defendant
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MinorInconvenience posted:They named good ol' Ortwin in the complaint for one reason--disqualification. Yeah, this. I thought it was to force recusal, but that sounds more likely. We've been kinda waiting for one of these since all the fun between Red Hat and SCO Unix originally caused a huge loving bruhaha about code being lifted from one place and put into another. The very short tl;dr for all of that was a tiny Unix outfit that boasted a pedigree back to system V threw out a lawsuit alleging that all works of Linux were infringing on the system V code. It started with Red Hat, but Novell and IBM came out swinging, and countersued for things they claimed had never been licensed from them that were in SCO. Literally a decade later, and 8 years after the project to _entirely_ clean the Linux and derivative codebases, they didn't find _any_ infringing code from the original complaint. Ultimately it boiled down to a couple of things that are dangerous in software licensing; use without attribution, and taking out the license. There's not been a lot of that around gaming code yet, mostly it's about assets, art and passing off, but it represents an interesting avenue for the intersection of legal and keyboard mashing. Hav fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Dec 13, 2017 |
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G0RF posted:Yes it really might finally be time to start drafting their “At least they tried” eulogies. If any of you lurkers need a primer, or just want to Archer one outright, Nedan’s Ion Storm piece may be long in the tooth but has stood the test of time: Also the "I feel sorry for all the haters" posts
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Kilmers Elbow posted:guess it means sandi's going back to clips4sale Pretty sure dogfart is hiring if realtickling isn't looking for milfs. 
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