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Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
Veruca Salt kind of has "assault" in it. That's all I've got.

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Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
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Henchman of Santa posted:

Veruca Salt kind of has "assault" in it. That's all I've got.

well the name comes from a band so that cant be it

SLOSifl
Aug 10, 2002


Powaqoatse posted:

Counter-theory: their relationship is entirely benign and solvang means sun+cattle closure and idk where you got from that it meant something else, shame on you
I grew up as a parasitic twin and read it second hand, that may be the problem here.

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es
I think it was Veruca made a joke about keeping dipshits in suspense

rodbeard
Jul 21, 2005

SLOSifl posted:

Veruca Salt and her dad, Mr. Salt were wryly explained to have run a profitable abalone farm by Solvang, which was a contemporary euphemism for them both having very large nipples. Hope that settles it. The first time I caught it I poo poo myself to death.

Only syscall can prove me wrong. But I know he can’t.

I know your joking, but the Salt family ran a salted nut company. In the book she was a bad nut instead of a bad egg. I think there's enough there for syscall girl to be reading too much into things rather than trolling.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
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SLOSifl posted:

I grew up as a parasitic twin and read it second hand, that may be the problem here.

youre not the originator of whatever the hell the claim is though

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
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by the way can we all please call them by their real name, DIE SALZFAMILIE

Ariong
Jun 25, 2012



rodbeard posted:

I know your joking, but the Salt family ran a salted nut company. In the book she was a bad nut instead of a bad egg. I think there's enough there for syscall girl to be reading too much into things rather than trolling.

I always thought the Willy Wonka movie with Johnny Depp was really messed up because of the way the Oompa-Loompahs were portrayed. Between that and this, I’m starting to think that the reason the Depp movie was worse is because it was more faithful to the book.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
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johnny depp is pretty good at playing johnny depp, but the only good movies he's in are good in spite of him, not because of him.

sad, but true.

AlphaKretin
Dec 25, 2014

A vase to face encounter.

...Vase to meet you?

...

GARVASE DAY!

Ariong posted:

I always thought the Willy Wonka movie with Johnny Depp was really messed up because of the way the Oompa-Loompahs were portrayed. Between that and this, I’m starting to think that the reason the Depp movie was worse is because it was more faithful to the book.

Roald Dahl has publicly said he prefers the Depp movie over the Wilder movie iirc, because yes, it is.

Death of the author. :colbert:

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
You are not supposed to like Willy Wonka in Charlie in the Chocolate Factory.

rodbeard
Jul 21, 2005

Roald Dahl died long before you the Tim Burton version and I assume you knew that, but my biggest problem with the Tim Burton version of the film was that he was adding a dark subtext to the work that he didn't seem to realize was already there. I know I'm a huge dork for fanboying over Dahl, but he never pulled any punches. He wrote books kids would want to read rather than books that were considered kid friendly which is why I think his books hold up so well.

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
The Depp version was loving terrible.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
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rodbeard posted:

Roald Dahl died long before you the Tim Burton version and I assume you knew that, but my biggest problem with the Tim Burton version of the film was that he was adding a dark subtext to the work that he didn't seem to realize was already there. I know I'm a huge dork for fanboying over Dahl, but he never pulled any punches. He wrote books kids would want to read rather than books that were considered kid friendly which is why I think his books hold up so well.

Tim Burton adding a dark subtext to the work that he didn't seem to realize was already there

that actually encompasses his entire oeuvre lmbo

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

AlphaKretin posted:

Roald Dahl has publicly said he prefers the Depp movie over the Wilder movie iirc, because yes, it is.

Death of the author. :colbert:

Death to the author more like it.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

:sigh: OK listen: if you spell Veruca Salt and her dad backwards, you get dad reh dna tlaS acureV I think that pretty much explains it.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
I could be wrong because I haven’t seen anything about it from Albarn, but Gorillaz’ lead singer being named “2-D” could be a reference to Massive Attack frontman 3D (and of course he is a 2-dimensional cartoon).

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
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slægt skal følge slægters gang



Henchman of Santa posted:

I could be wrong because I haven’t seen anything about it from Albarn, but Gorillaz’ lead singer being named “2-D” could be a reference to Massive Attack frontman 3D (and of course he is a 2-dimensional cartoon).

idgi

which one is veruca salt and which one is her dad

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

Powaqoatse posted:

idgi

which one is veruca salt and which one is her dad

Noodle is Veruca Salt and her dad is Murdoc

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
The only dirty joke I can even think of in Willy Wonka is the whole Snozzberry thing In one of his non kids books he wrote beforehand, Dahl uses the term to mean the head of a dick, so I'm going to be upset if Syscall was meaning that and just phrased it weird.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
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snozzberries and..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCxcU-kPwho

Hardcordion
Feb 5, 2008

BARK BARK BARK

Henchman of Santa posted:

I could be wrong because I haven’t seen anything about it from Albarn, but Gorillaz’ lead singer being named “2-D” could be a reference to Massive Attack frontman 3D (and of course he is a 2-dimensional cartoon).

That might be true but in the band's fiction the name stands for Two Dents, i.e. the holes he has in place of eyes.

Hardcordion has a new favorite as of 04:44 on Dec 11, 2017

MisterBibs
Jul 17, 2010

dolla dolla
bill y'all
Fun Shoe
Tia Carrere (from Wayne's World) and Asia Carrera (some porn star from the 90s that I didn't know existed until a few minutes ago) are not the same person.

MisterBibs has a new favorite as of 08:16 on Dec 13, 2017

Inzombiac
Mar 19, 2007

PARTY ALL NIGHT

EAT BRAINS ALL DAY


MisterBibs posted:

Tia Carrere (from Wayne's World) and Asia Carrera (some porn star from the 90s that I didn't know existed until a few minutes ago) are not the same person.

I didn't know this for the longest time.
I was under the assumption that she did porn and broke into acting.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Randaconda posted:

The Depp version was loving terrible.

I never saw it, but back then there was a photoshop thread that made the porn version, which I still think about and chuckle on occasion. I'm positive I have it buried deep down my portable hard drive somewhere.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

Randaconda posted:

The Depp version was loving terrible.

The Depp version is totally fine. People have a ton of weird nostalgia for the old one, it's a great movie and a classic, but the Depp one isn't the unholy abomination that people love to make it out as. I saw it in theaters with one of my best friends, and he walked out halfway through in a huff. Except I drove that motherfucker to the theater and it was before the era of smartphones so he just sat in the lobby doing nothing for forty five minutes and we all made fun of him for being so pissy for months afterwards.

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

Eh it's really a pretty awful movie even though I did appreciate the faithfulness to the book. Nothing Burton has done since like 2000 has been worth watching.

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

food court bailiff posted:

The Depp version is totally fine. People have a ton of weird nostalgia for the old one, it's a great movie and a classic, but the Depp one isn't the unholy abomination that people love to make it out as. I saw it in theaters with one of my best friends, and he walked out halfway through in a huff. Except I drove that motherfucker to the theater and it was before the era of smartphones so he just sat in the lobby doing nothing for forty five minutes and we all made fun of him for being so pissy for months afterwards.

I disagree, it was when Depp was devolving into self-parody.

Terrible movie.

rydiafan
Mar 17, 2009


MisterBibs posted:

Tia Carrere (from Wayne's World) and Asia Carrera (some porn star from the 90s that I didn't know existed until a few minutes ago) are not the same person.

This is tangential but she has a similar enough name to have popped into my head.

Porn star Asa Akira has the greatest Twitter feed ever.

https://m.imgur.com/gallery/R27K7/

tight aspirations
Jul 13, 2009

Inzombiac posted:

I didn't know this for the longest time.
I was under the assumption that she did porn and broke into acting.

This, but for Asia Argento.

Elizabethan Error
May 18, 2006

food court bailiff posted:

The Depp version is totally fine. People have a ton of weird nostalgia for the old one, it's a great movie and a classic, but the Depp one isn't the unholy abomination that people love to make it out as.
Depp isn't Gene Wilder, Burton's reliance on CGI is obnoxious to watch and blah blah blah exposition blah blah

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Elizabethan Error posted:

Depp isn't Gene Wilder, Burton's reliance on CGI is obnoxious to watch and blah blah blah exposition blah blah

And Depp went way too far into "creepy pedo" territory. Wilder's Wonka seemed like he didn't even particularly like children.

Elizabethan Error
May 18, 2006

AlphaKretin posted:

Roald Dahl has publicly said he prefers the Depp movie over the Wilder movie iirc, because yes, it is.

Death of the author. :colbert:
I know it's :thejoke: but Dahl wouldn't have liked the remake for the same reason he didn't like the original: it's too much about Wonka and not enough about Charlie.

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

A weird old recluse who's managed to make candy that literally never gets consumed, has a flying elevator that can go anywhere in the world, and invented drinks that make people fly is apparently more interesting than some broke kid who lives off of cabbage, what can I tell you

Elizabethan Error
May 18, 2006

purple death ray posted:

A weird old recluse who's managed to make candy that literally never gets consumed, has a flying elevator that can go anywhere in the world, and invented drinks that make people fly is apparently more interesting than some broke kid who lives off of cabbage, what can I tell you
good point, that was exactly the reason why the book is titled "Weirdo recluse makes chocolate and also some kid eats cabbage soup"

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
I'm the malingering dancing grandfather.

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

Elizabethan Error posted:

good point, that was exactly the reason why the book is titled "Weirdo recluse makes chocolate and also some kid eats cabbage soup"

Maybe he could have used a better editor, hell

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

Elizabethan Error posted:

Depp isn't Gene Wilder, Burton's reliance on CGI is obnoxious to watch and blah blah blah exposition blah blah
I gotta admit I really enjoyed the pseudo-Bollywood number with all the Oompa Loompas because it was incredibly creepy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzmzZaB0kss&t=94s

the whole idea of having them all played by one guy is really good for just being weird as hell and fitting with the general Wonka aesthetic

Lincoln
May 12, 2007

Ladies.
Charlie is the camera — Wonka is the plot-driver.

FWIW, I prefer Wilder’s indifferent psychopath to Depp’s QUIRKY WACKO.

Edit: ha, yeah having Deep Roy (?) play every single Oompa Loopa was hosed up and great. For some reason it makes the dance numbers much more interesting. The Burton version has a number of individual strong elements but fails as a whole film. I blame Depp’s performance, and I actually like Depp as an actor.

Lincoln has a new favorite as of 22:48 on Dec 13, 2017

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Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Lincoln posted:

Charlie is the camera — Wonka is the plot-driver.

FWIW, I prefer Wilder’s indifferent psychopath to Depp’s QUIRKY WACKO.

Edit: ha, yeah having Deep Roy (?) play every single Oompa Loopa was hosed up and great. For some reason it makes the dance numbers much more interesting. The Burton version has a number of individual strong elements but fails as a whole film. I blame Depp’s performance, and I actually like Depp as an actor.

Depp peaked at Edward Scissorhands. :colbert:

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