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Blue On Blue posted:Remember one of the earlier videos of Chris pecking at the keyboard before he looks up in that infomercial way like oh hey guys didn't see you there I loved that, yes. It was one of the earlier videos back when CR was still pretending to not only be playing his game but also actively developing it.
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Dec 14, 2017 05:20
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lol ok Schedules may include holidays, weekends, and alternate shifts, on occasion
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Dec 14, 2017 05:25
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Dec 14, 2017 05:26
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Young Freud posted:A thought occurred to me: what happens to Coutts if Crytek wins, since CIG put up their IP as collateral for the loan? It seems that would start another legal battle, either Crytek vs. Coutts for the fire sale of CIG or Coutts vs. CIG for the loss of the IP. Coutts will find that they collateral they were offered, wasn't CIG/RSI to give. And so their loan would be worthless. They would have to go after CIG or liquidate the rest of the collateral that doesn't become CryTek's. This lawsuit has wide ranging implications. Skadden has offices in EU and the US lawsuit is only the first volley. More soon. ps: They're hosed. Completely. And this isn't even the worst (that's currently playing out and coming sooner than I expected) of it. ----------------
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Dec 14, 2017 05:27
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ewe2 posted:A most astute observation from the Frontier forums: This is good, but I think it’s important to get into CRs brain here. When he had CryTek to build his demo, and when he started this, he genuinely believed this was a 2-3 years at most project. In his mind, he was going to make the Matrix faster and better than anybody because he’s got all these great ideas that nobody else in the world ever had. I have no doubt at all that he happily signed lots of “life of the project” type things because the project was supposed to be over 2 or more years ago. Chris Roberts’ hideous ability at software project estimation is killing him all across the board as it’s wonderful. 
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Dec 14, 2017 05:28
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The Titanic posted:Also speaking of Derek, has anybody stopped to consider what he’s going to do after this??? I am semi-retired, remember? I just finished several online courses on day trading, so I'm going to be focusing on that after this poo poo-show. Plus I expect that I'm going to be busy with interviews, streams, my Star Citizen book (talking to Amazon Publishing and others atm) etc. ----------------
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Dec 14, 2017 05:29
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Experience documenting processes, training employees, and motivating teams didnt one of the developers say not to expect this from the staff because everyone was too busy swamped with work lol
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Dec 14, 2017 05:31
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The most important thing here is: what does Clifford have to say about this? And has he sent any pizzas to CIG to lift their spirits in this dark time?
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Dec 14, 2017 05:32
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The various assorted stupidities of the SCultists have been amusing but when they completely mangle legal principles and good lawyering that for some reason sticks in my craw. No you dumbshit, ask any lawyer who took first year Civ Pro, and they'll recognize the dollar figure of 75k because they want to allege grounds for diversity jurisdiction. Even if they were "hard up on cash" you smooth-brained idiot, they still wouldn't get that sum unless they win the suit, which happens at the end, which makes your attempted point plainly nonsensical even if you have only the barest knowledge of how the legal system works. A top firm doesn't work for peanuts and if they're taking a case like this it's because they see a large fee won on contingency, which if they're good at their jobs means they've assessed the legal merit as good because they're not getting a lot of money unless they win. And no, since everything alleged is half in the public in the form of all the garbage videos CIG's put out, there's nothing being "hidden" here, aside from maybe the full contract which isn't public (yet) but clearly the lawyers would have seen that. CIG implicated itself with its official public statement, you jackass! There's nothing to fake when your opponent is busy walking into bear traps of their own accord. So loving stupid. You getting nothing and the lawyers getting everything else after Crytek extracts its pound of flesh is precisely what you deserve you worthless twats. Young Freud posted:A thought occurred to me: what happens to Coutts if Crytek wins, since CIG put up their IP as collateral for the loan? It seems that would start another legal battle, either Crytek vs. Coutts for the fire sale of CIG or Coutts vs. CIG for the loss of the IP.
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Dec 14, 2017 05:32
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Is there any way that Roberts and co end up losing the money they paid themselves or does this just end with a bunch of smug scammers with enough cash in the bank for their next venture?
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Dec 14, 2017 05:33
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Spermanent Record posted:Is there any way that Roberts and co end up losing the money they paid themselves or does this just end with a bunch of smug scammers with enough cash in the bank for their next venture? I'm going to guess the latter. On top of that I'll bet half a sandwich that enough mocap equipment to run a small studio is going to somehow carry itself down a back stairwell some 2am and vanish mysteriously into the night. What I'm excited for is Chris Roberts kickstarting another 20 million once the dust settles.
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Dec 14, 2017 05:36
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Spermanent Record posted:Is there any way that Roberts and co end up losing the money they paid themselves or does this just end with a bunch of smug scammers with enough cash in the bank for their next venture? I don't see why they wouldn't be able to go after their personal income, but I'm not a Warlawyerd. Like if they were making the decisions I'm pretty sure they're liable?
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Dec 14, 2017 05:37
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Dusty Lens posted:What I'm excited for is Chris Roberts kickstarting another 20 million once the dust settles. You just know he's going to try this again. He's such a weasel.
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Dec 14, 2017 05:39
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D_Smart posted:my Star Citizen book (talking to Amazon Publishing and others atm) etc. ELEs I Have Called and 200 Blog Posts Being the Personal Histories (and addresses, and phone numbers, and twitter accounts) of B'tak, Jester86, SC_White_Knight, [deleted], and everyone else who wouldn't let me loving finish
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Dec 14, 2017 05:40
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So I guess it really is Turbulent coming for them next. Wow.
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Dec 14, 2017 05:42
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I wonder how upset Amazon is over this. They are struggling to get their game department going, and before it even really gets underway it’s going to be used as a weapon in a lawsuit by a company that’s more scam than company. I’m slightly curious if Skadden took this not just because they think they can absolutely loving destroy CIG, but that they might also somehow get a piece of amazon as well for collusion or something crazy. I’m not a lawyer so just let me know if it’s not even possible. 
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Dec 14, 2017 05:43
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Whatever happened to Cymelion? Did he just vanish?
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Dec 14, 2017 05:43
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and I'll just say this: absolutely no one, no one inside CIG, or ex employees are going to be even joking about any of this poo poo so unfortunately I won't be posting anything they are saying at bars either, because peeps are straight up scared of the repercussions
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Dec 14, 2017 05:43
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D_Smart posted:I am semi-retired, remember? I just finished several online courses on day trading, so I'm going to be focusing on that after this poo poo-show. Plus I expect that I'm going to be busy with interviews, streams, my Star Citizen book (talking to Amazon Publishing and others atm) etc.  Getting amazon to publish your book is somehow hilarious poetic justice.  I’m glad for you!
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Dec 14, 2017 05:44
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If it's not formatted as a choose your own adventure book you're really dropping the ball.
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Dec 14, 2017 05:47
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https://twitter.com/BoredGamerUK/status/941098841146880002 https://twitter.com/TheAstroPub/status/940852670268628992
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Dec 14, 2017 05:48
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TheAgent posted:and I'll just say this: absolutely no one, no one inside CIG, or ex employees are going to be even joking about any of this poo poo Uh yeah, with the Ancient One's firm of The Damned I don't think anyone is going to want to touch this lest the all seeing eye's gaze should fall upon you and discorporate you to the infinite pain realm.
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Dec 14, 2017 05:48
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The Titanic posted:
Forward by David Braben
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Dec 14, 2017 05:50
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CrazyTolradi posted:Whatever happened to Cymelion? Did he just vanish? Eaten by a crocodile, probably :justNTthings:
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Dec 14, 2017 05:50
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juggalo baby coffin posted:why the gently caress did they go with cryengine anyway? its infamously bad for performance CryTek built Chris’ demo for free save a few little legally binding contractual obligations. CR, having no clue how to program anything himself, and knowing he can finish the product itself in like 2 years after that, ran with it. Because he’s got ideas that nobody else ever had!!!
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Dec 14, 2017 05:54
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Dec 14, 2017 05:54
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also do any of these dumb fuckers not realize that crytek not making money was probably because chris roberts wasn't paying his loving royalties to them lol
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Dec 14, 2017 05:54
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lmao at all this what a week
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Dec 14, 2017 05:55
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Lack of Gravitas posted:Eaten by a crocodile, probably
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Dec 14, 2017 05:56
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TheAgent posted:also do any of these dumb fuckers not realize that crytek not making money was probably because chris roberts wasn't paying his loving royalties to them I see no connection between the current situation and the financial misfortunes of companies that do business with CIG.
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Dec 14, 2017 05:57
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Abuminable posted:It wouldn't matter if John Carmack hand-crafted an engine for them for free and granted them all rights. Chris and Co are still incapable of producing a game. This. We’ve learned over the years that their engine choice would have no bearing on their success or failure. Whether they used UE4 or CryTek or Unity or anything else... it was doomed because CR can’t manage a paper bag in a light breeze, and is too stupid to allow other people to help him do things right. Part of being a great manager is knowing your own imitations and that you are not superwoman. You need the right people in the right places to help you as a team. CR set this up and has no idea how to function as a team, he only knows how to make demands.
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Dec 14, 2017 05:58
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TheAgent posted:also do any of these dumb fuckers not realize that crytek not making money was probably because chris roberts wasn't paying his loving royalties to them I mean, SC was going to be a big deal right? Weren't they sending staff over in the beginning? It was supposed to be this big AAA flagship return of the space genre. They must have (unwisely, I mean Chris guys) put a lot of resources into it hoping that CIG could make their big flagship Cryengine game and they could put more resources from Crytek into other projects instead of making a game.
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Dec 14, 2017 06:00
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Crazypoops posted:I mean, lol if CIG has just been offsetting the bill for every goddamn thing
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Dec 14, 2017 06:01
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alf_pogs posted:Unicorn Derek is my new favourite thing What’s really creepy about all the Derek joke pictures is that they always use buff looking bodies. Albeit the unicorn is silly the body looks very buff. Same with the one in diapers. It’s like he’s wearing diapers but he’s also ripped with a six pack and forearms that can crush small animals. This has always been the Derek meme paradox for me.
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Dec 14, 2017 06:01
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If the Coutts loan was when the "smoke" from this project turned black and oily, this is when the flames became visible. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHzov33tgfg
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Dec 14, 2017 06:04
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I wonder if this is the reason they couldn't show anything from SQ42 last year despite being so close.
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The Titanic posted:What’s really creepy about all the Derek joke pictures is that they always use buff looking bodies. Albeit the unicorn is silly the body looks very buff. Same with the one in diapers. It’s like he’s wearing diapers but he’s also ripped with a six pack and forearms that can crush small animals. Don't kinkshame.
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I love how this is turning into a "well Crytek didn't support CIG enough and Chris Roberts had to hire their poor engineers and didn't poach them at all like Erin did with TT games. when you think about it, CIG has already won this"
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