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The Management posted:isn’t that what you would expect to see when your car’s heat dissipation and voltage regulation systems are working properly? Voltage will have dips as things engage/disengage. Temps will ramp up in summer but still be within spec. All this is stuff that made people complain to the dealerships because it isn't "perfect" despite being entirely within operating parameters.
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infernal machines posted:weirdly, properly designed xeon workstations with high-end gpus do not generally double as convection ovens they are also big, the imac pro is for imaginary professions that need a workstation but don't have 3 sqft of floor space
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infernal machines posted:weirdly, properly designed xeon workstations with high-end gpus do not generally double as convection ovens is your contention here that Apple computers produce significantly more heat to do an equivalent computing task than other vendors’ computers?
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:lol what magical hardware do you believe shitbox manufacturers are using that is consuming less power or producing less BTUs? Just because they consolidated the airflow in to a single exhaust vent out the back doesn't mean anything is wrong or operating out of spec none, i'm suggesting that perhaps the idea of putting an 18 core xeon and a vega gpu into that form factor was hubris for a company that can't make laptops that don't try to melt through your desk. The Management posted:is your contention here that Apple computers produce significantly more heat to do an equivalent computing task than other vendors’ computers? no my contention is that apple computers have a history of thermal management issues, often stemming from their design
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Dec 14, 2017 17:56
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Prove its a problem. Do it. Find some facts or evidence beyond "person said thing is hot".
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Dec 14, 2017 17:57
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:Hot things are hot. This is shocking to some people, for some reason. They are probably idiots.
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Dec 14, 2017 17:58
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The issue is not heat generation it's heat dissipation. Apple likes to use the entire device as a heatsink which makes them dissipate poorly and also always a million degrees.
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Dec 14, 2017 18:02
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:Prove its a problem. Do it. Find some facts or evidence beyond "person said thing is hot". you get really wound up for a guy posting in the computer shitposting forum. idk, i guess wait for the anand benches to come out, they usually to temp measurements too. i'm just lolling at apple for making a 5k hand dryer
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Dec 14, 2017 18:03
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The mac pro tower probably had decent cooling tho since it was modeled after real computers.
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Dec 14, 2017 18:04
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infernal machines posted:no my contention is that apple computers have a history of thermal management issues, often stemming from their design I agree with this. see for example The Management posted:goddamnit jony you stupid rear end in a top hat
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if you have to ride in an ambulance in america it costs more than that e: also monthly reminder that american prices don't include tax, that same config is 13 grand on the us site and norway has 25% vat which puts it at $16,700 qirex fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Dec 14, 2017 |
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Dec 14, 2017 18:09
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Shaggar posted:The mac pro tower probably had decent cooling tho since it was modeled after real computers. well that and it was basically the same design that had housed the G5, a CPU so hot it had an integral phase change cooler in the package
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Dec 14, 2017 18:12
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jony hasn't been day to day on product design at apple for like 2 years, too busy working on their technically perfect but unusable office building and making slightly better tables for retail stores
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Dec 14, 2017 18:16
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RIP code quality as developers are forced to work in large open office clean desk garbage spaces
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Dec 14, 2017 18:41
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they talked up the heat dissipation on the new mbp and mine has been fine in that regard so far
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Dec 14, 2017 18:47
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qirex posted:jony hasn't been day to day on product design at apple for like 2 years, too busy working on their technically perfect but unusable office building and making slightly better tables for retail stores there was an article recently stating “HES COMING BACK TO PRODUCT DESIGN RIGHT NOW, DEFINITELY” probably to assure investors or something
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Dec 14, 2017 18:59
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If I'm able to run 8 Xeon sockets in 1U dissipating 1kW+ without thermal throttling an iMac with considerably more internal volume can manage
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Dec 14, 2017 19:12
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johnny ives solution to mac overheating: just seal up the vents, that's where all the heat comes from, right?
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Dec 14, 2017 19:21
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qirex posted:jony hasn't been day to day on product design at apple for like 2 years, too busy working on their technically perfect but unusable office building and making slightly better tables for retail stores he’s chief design officer, the buck stops with him. if he’s been wanking it to renderings of door knobs while products are suffering it’s still on him. I can assure you Engineering is not the ones pushing for these thermally constrained designs
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Dec 14, 2017 19:25
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i like to jump on apple's dumb design decisions as much as the next guy, but the top processor option for an imac pro is 140W TDP. the fan/vent combination needs to cool the equivalent of two lightbulbs. i think it will be ok.
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Dec 14, 2017 19:27
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well, presumably there's more than just the cpu in there
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Dec 14, 2017 19:30
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the vega's tdp is 350
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Shaggar posted:the vega's tdp is 350 they have courageously underclocked it for you
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Dec 14, 2017 20:23
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it’s climate optimised so in a cold office the heat descends cozily onto your keyboard and hands
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Dec 14, 2017 20:28
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cpu generates heat, and it comes out of the vent. how could crapple design such a dumb thing
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Dec 14, 2017 20:29
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computer makes heat how can this be alternately, that "i can't believe you've done this" video, but with the iMac Pro introduction in place of the dude getting punched edit: the only kind-of-dumb, form-over-function thing about having a heat vent on the back is trying to hide it with the stand arm.
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Dec 14, 2017 20:39
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mac users expect slowness and bad performance in general so throttling due to bad thermal design is ok.
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Dec 14, 2017 20:41
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Doc Block posted:computer makes heat how can this be it would be funny if the heat melted the stand and caused the thing to fall
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Dec 14, 2017 20:42
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idg why people are flipping out because someone says the 5000 dollar computer creates heat don't all y'all windows povs have like giant video cards
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Dec 14, 2017 20:51
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again its not heat generation that's different, its the poor heat dissipation in apple devices that's the problem. in a pc you have a bunch of fans to dump heat. in apple the device is a heatsink and it has your hands and legs to dump heat. also since apple chose AMD their gpu will run hotter than the equivalent nvidia card
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Dec 14, 2017 20:54
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ok dude if your legs and hands are touching your imac while it's running full tilt you might be using it wrong
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Dec 14, 2017 20:56
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Mac Pro better fit a 12” standard video card or I’m loving out of this company e: not like I’d buy one really. a Falcon NW is way more gaming computer for 60% of the cost, but poo poo man
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Dec 14, 2017 20:57
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the imac has fans you retard
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pram posted:the imac has fans you retard these people are mad online because the fans push hot air out of the imac instead of just leaving it in there I guess
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Dec 14, 2017 20:59
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protip: don't stick your hand in that spot that it's really awkward to stick you hand into while using the computer and you won't notice that there's hot air there
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Dec 14, 2017 21:07
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pram posted:the imac has fans you retard we'll see if its enough, but they do not have a history of good fan design.
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Dec 14, 2017 21:07
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shagger !!! 
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Dec 14, 2017 21:08
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this is all such a weird hypothetical as you really shouldn't buy an imac pro to start with, and even if you do please do not stick your body parts into any of the openings in the chassi, and if you do please do not post about it
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Dec 14, 2017 21:12
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:this is all such a weird hypothetical as you really shouldn't buy an imac pro to start with, and even if you do please do not stick your body parts into any of the openings in the chassi, and if you do please do not post about it definitely neurotypical windows users cannot fathom not loving a computer
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:Prove its a problem. Do it. Find some facts or evidence beyond "person said thing is hot". he probably searched and couldn't find anything newer than the stories about the 2010 models
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