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Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





Mirificus posted:

Dual Shockers: Star Citizen’s New Video Tackles Atmospheric Flight; Squadron 42 Gets a Small Tease -
Cloud Imperium Games releases a new video discussing atmospheric flight in Star Citizen, as Crytek sues for damages over CryEngine 3.0.

quote:

On top of that, we also get a small tease about the single-player campaign Squadron 42 sent in a newsletter to backers. A screenshot features an Avenger spaceship bearing the “Advocacy” livery with a destroyed space station on the background. Advocacy is a sort of police force with jurisdiction over interplanetary crimes and cases that extend into alien territory. This is certainly interesting, considering that Squadron 42 is mostly a military story, and we’ll have to see how Advocacy fits into it.

It's easy, OP. The leaked script had the player start out as some backwater militia dude who fends off an attack and then is immediately drafted into what is supposed to be like the most prestigious Squadron (and also Sandi's favorite number) to work with the greaterest fighter pilot in the history of space "Mark Gary Oldman Hamill" because Crobbler is a hack.

So you probably start out as an advocacy agent. Duh.

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AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer

Potato Salad posted:

I read that you were excited to see the paper trail when it hit clearinghouse. My point is that very little substantive paper trail will see daylight

Nope, I expect if they hit discovery something funny will be discovered that triggers other funny things. If that leads to the end, then they have 400 odd staff + ex staff who I'm sure won't be able to shut up about what actually went on. Like 38 Studios.

ZekeNY
Jun 13, 2013

Probably AFK

Monathin posted:

I really, honestly, 100% doubt there's going to be a settling out of court. As multiple people who know better than me covered, you don't go to Skadden if you're planning to just 'settle out of court'. These guys don't get out of bed for anything but blood in the water. And I feel like CIG couldn't actually settle with what they have on tap, nor would they - it seems entirely CIG to try and fight this out without realizing how horrifically outmatched in the legal department they currently are.

Let's not get wrapped around the axle on the Skadden thing. I've litigated against them, and I've litigated alongside them, and the clear majority of their cases settle before trial (if only because trials at that level are just so expensive). But you also don't hire them for something trivial. You hire them when it's time to bet the company.

Toops
Nov 5, 2015

-find mood stabilizers
-also,

Hav posted:

right turn, Clyde.

'The ship XML'. Am I to believe that they're storing ship attributes in XML?

Correct.

That's how they "assemble" their "modular" 3d models.

In XML.

Yeah.

intardnation
Feb 18, 2016

I'm going to space!

:gary: :yarg:
Hairy situation for Chris Roberts - I hope he doesnt wig out!
Ben dont stress eat.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

cupitor posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5lzklaOndY
The guy running the largest org as his real-life job (he collects monthly "donations" from his followers) in full shill-damage control mode. :yarg:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOzmer7Wurc

Raskolnikov
Nov 25, 2003

Dusty Lens posted:

Man when you put it that way it sounds like CIG's legal defense is Toast.

:thurman:

Strangler 42
Jan 8, 2007

SHAVE IT ALL OFF
ALL OF IT

Dusty Lens posted:

Man when you put it that way it sounds like CIG's legal defense is Toast.

Be honest, how long were you sitting on that joke?

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer


Going to be interesting to see what happens to this over the next few days.

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable
I just realized something because I’m slow.

In maybe a relatively short time, refunds will no longer be a thing. SC will stop. The grey market fun will be gone because nothing is left.

There will only be a short run fun of watching people with $$$$’s into this thing miss the refund train. There will be many “we tried to warn you!”’s and laughs.

But... it may be ending. This may actually be the final few months or so of Star Citizen. I’ve had years of entertainment from CR’s atrocious management. It’s all going away, like refunds in the wind. :911:

Raskolnikov
Nov 25, 2003

The Titanic posted:

I just realized something because I’m slow.

In maybe a relatively short time, refunds will no longer be a thing. SC will stop. The grey market fun will be gone because nothing is left.

There will only be a short run fun of watching people with $$$$’s into this thing miss the refund train. There will be many “we tried to warn you!”’s and laughs.

But... it may be ending. This may actually be the final few months or so of Star Citizen. I’ve had years of entertainment from CR’s atrocious management. It’s all going away, like refunds in the wind. :911:

Not for another Two Weeks commanda. o9

Enjoy it while it lasts. :unsmith:

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon

TheAgent posted:

welp

lol they got henry cavill in the mocap studio too

CAREFUL THIS IS A PORNHUB LEAK BUT DOES CONTAIN AWESOME FOOTAGE OF SQ42

PLEASE WATCH WITH CAUTION NOT FUCKIN WORK SAFE

~we gotta fly into that thing?~

Is there anywhere else to watch this?

Golli
Jan 5, 2013



Toops posted:

Yeah, idk man:



It may well turn out to be a matter for state bar discipline - a lot depends on things we don't know.

"The same or substantially related matter" to me means that if Ortwin represented Crytek in negotiating the GLA, then switched sides in the middle of negotiating - he should recuse. It seems overbroad to interpret that to mean a lawyer who worked for Crytek could never get a job with a software company that would potentially license their product.

In my job we have conflict of interest rules that prohibit switching sides within a year of working a particular contract, but you can switch sides so long as you are not involved with the contract in question.

But I am not a lawyer, so they may handle things differently, and if Ortwin gets disbarred doing something he should have known not to do, even funnier.

If Jones is a lawyer, he is in bigger trouble (potentially) because there is no question that he has a conflict of interest.

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."

AP posted:



Going to be interesting to see what happens to this over the next few days.

They are so screwed on this too. That tracker was loving rigged for years now to deliberately mislead, so if they keep doing what they're doing, and they can't settle out of court, all that means is that they'll get sued for more cash in the end.

OTOH, if they fess up and actually stop recycling their own funds through the tracker through whichever one of Ortwin's shell companies masked as 'pledges', or any other fuckery they used on it, then that'll expose their bullshit lying about how much money they had and while they might be able to get sued for less as in: "Look, we aren't getting as much as we used to, see?!" it'll also completely wreck any funding drive for as long as this poo poo hangs over their necks like a damocles' sword.

Damned if they do, damned if they don't. Only thing I'm curious about is which sort of 'damned' would they prefer to be. My money is on them continuing to bullshit the tracker and continue to be incompetent/delusional so Skadden can get dat big payout!

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

Ah good I’m glad they mentioned top guns. Because that’s me. A top gun. My call sign is Goose. I thought it was cute to choose.

I am greatly looking forward to the unveiling of another fake gameplay clip and or pre-rendered movie.

I hope that, out of it all, we get another picture of Mark Hamill they can trot out for the next 4 years weeks. Because the old one is looking a bit aged, and it’s been used more than the stretched out floozie hopping from street corner to street corner.

Because I. Want this announcement to be official, I’m going to whip it out.

:nsfw:









They’re both looking at the same thing just behind you. It’s so cute. :3

Michaellaneous
Oct 30, 2013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MzzuiQVTDw

Leornard French explains stuff for idiots.
It's good.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

AP posted:



Going to be interesting to see what happens to this over the next few days.
"gently caress, they're going to be using the funding chart as evidence for damages. Turn it off, turn it off!"

"Sir, it won't go below 34 thousand!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4pcIuo6Kbw

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard


Peroxide Cowboy
Nov 30, 2013

Dusty Lens
Jul 1, 2015

All Glory unto the Stimpire. Give up your arms and legs and embrace the beautiful agony of electricity that doubles in pain every second.

hot balls man no homo posted:

Be honest, how long were you sitting on that joke?

A quick review of my posting history will reveal that suggesting either thought or plan is giving way too much credit.

Golli
Jan 5, 2013



CrazyLoon posted:

They are so screwed on this too. That tracker was loving rigged for years now to deliberately mislead, so if they keep doing what they're doing, and they can't settle out of court, all that means is that they'll get sued for more cash in the end.

OTOH, if they fess up and actually stop recycling their own funds through the tracker through whichever one of Ortwin's shell companies masked as 'pledges', or any other fuckery they used on it, then that'll expose their bullshit lying about how much money they had and while they might be able to get sued for less as in: "Look, we aren't getting as much as we used to, see?!" it'll also completely wreck any funding drive for as long as this poo poo hangs over their necks like a damocles' sword.

Damned if they do, damned if they don't. Only thing I'm curious about is which sort of 'damned' would they prefer to be. My money is on them continuing to bullshit the tracker and continue to be incompetent/delusional so Skadden can get dat big payout!

I imagine one of the Coutts bros was on the horn with them yesterday holding a printed copy of the funding tracker.

"Hey, Simon. Looks like you recently came into some money. How about handing it over before you spend it on outside counsel? ... Well, actually that was not REALLY a question, rather a British demand for payment. Pip pip!"

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."

Klyith posted:

"gently caress, they're going to be using the funding chart as evidence for damages. Turn it off, turn it off!"

"Sir, it won't go below 34 thousand!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4pcIuo6Kbw

:laffo:

Regrettable
Jan 5, 2010



The Titanic posted:

I just realized something because I’m slow.

In maybe a relatively short time, refunds will no longer be a thing. SC will stop. The grey market fun will be gone because nothing is left.

There will only be a short run fun of watching people with $$$$’s into this thing miss the refund train. There will be many “we tried to warn you!”’s and laughs.

But... it may be ending. This may actually be the final few months or so of Star Citizen. I’ve had years of entertainment from CR’s atrocious management. It’s all going away, like refunds in the wind. :911:

I think refunds are already done unless they're for the basic package but wouldn't be surprised if they refuse to give refunds on those either.

226
Nov 24, 2014

D_Smart posted:

I agree.

However, their problem is that they don't have the money to settle for what CryTek is asking. And that's a huge problem. Especially since CryTek, being a dev and publisher, knows that they can't bank on future promises because they know how that game is played, and that CIG is hosed anyway since neither game is coming to come out anyway.

Chris: Look, we're willing to settle, but things are a bit tight at the, er, moment. If you'd just, uh, wait for Squadron 42 to release I'm sure we'll, ah, have the funds then.
Skadden: And when will that be?
Chris: 2014! I mean, ah, 2015, I, ah, no. What year is it? NEXT YEAR!

Toops
Nov 5, 2015

-find mood stabilizers
-also,

SomethingJones posted:

Clive Johnson (Lead Network Programmer):
Last week we've been fixing issues, em, probably most notably there was a bug were if the server had been running for about 6 hours the PHYSICS TIME WOULD START GOING BACKWARDS

One of our network guys spotted the issue, put a fix in, and now time always goes forwards... which is good to know


:discourse:

Classic.

"Hey Jim, what do we do when we use up all 32 bits of the server_timestamp variable?"

"Oh that's no problem, just change it from int32 to int64. Have a look in c:\GameDev\CryEngine\Code\CryEngine\CryCommon\ServerClock.cpp and... actually wait. Never mind, just mark the story as blocked and help Josh with doors, I'll explain later."

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

Daztek posted:



Still 2 blockers :argh:



Whoa! My offsite quote got Mirificus’d! :3:

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





Hey remember when we were all like "haha lol the only devs they have are brand new FullSail grads" and reddit was like "Nuh uh they're all experts"




welp

alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012


i feel like after years of tense table-setting and piece-moving, years of squandered dreams and broken promises, years of alliances forming and disintegrating - we're finally into the third act.

this is like the first episode of the final three in the series. Tony Soprano's stepbrother was just gunned down with his model trains. Shane Vendrell is on the run with his family, spiralling out of control. the nazi gang has killed Hank and taken all but one of Walter's barrels of ill-gotten money.

Dusty Lens
Jul 1, 2015

All Glory unto the Stimpire. Give up your arms and legs and embrace the beautiful agony of electricity that doubles in pain every second.

A lesser man might take a look at people they consider to be thoughtful and considerate posters and pause for a moment of introspection when those same voices of reason express reservation.

Better to just call them salty antagonists I guess.

Toops
Nov 5, 2015

-find mood stabilizers
-also,

Golli posted:

:words:
But I am not a lawyer
:words:

kay.

Dusty Lens
Jul 1, 2015

All Glory unto the Stimpire. Give up your arms and legs and embrace the beautiful agony of electricity that doubles in pain every second.

The best part about all the theorycrafting I've been enjoying today is that I'm literally sitting in an armchair.

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon
HAHAHAHAHAH Sandi's voice acting is so terrible.

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

HAHAHAHAHAH Sandi's acting is so terrible.

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

HAHAHAHAHAH Sandi's voice acting is so terrible.

Does anyone have the gif of her failing to walk across a room convincingly?

Golli
Jan 5, 2013



Dusty Lens posted:

The best part about all the theorycrafting I've been enjoying today is that I'm literally sitting in an armchair.

I guess I'm doing it wrong. I'm laying on the couch.

D_Smart
May 11, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
College Slice

cupitor posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5lzklaOndY
The guy running the largest org as his real-life job (he collects monthly "donations" from his followers) in full shill-damage control mode. :yarg:

He is literally insane. Everything he said, is pure bullshit.

I am trying to get him to debate me in the upcoming interview stream. I hope he accepts.

https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/941452720116027393

https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/941453511384092672

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The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

Yes. CIG would never use backer funds for anything inappropri- hahaha :homebrew:

All your money is going to be the meat sponge between their personal wealth and the legal battle. As soon as their personal riches are threatened they’re going to throw up the white flag and walk away.

D_Smart
May 11, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
College Slice

Warhawk109 posted:

Buddy at work was saying, that crytek was on the hook for providing netcode improvements to cryengine, which they never came through on, and therefore, may have breached the GLA themselves. Something about a bunch of leaked emails back and forth between crytek and CIG bickering about it. Anyone know what’s up?

Nope, haven't heard that. It's hilarious that the rumor mill is now all of a sudden starting to churn on the one thing (besides horrid performance) that's basically killed the game: networking

Plus I call bullshit because NO software licensing agreement gives any guarantee of performance - like ever. It's always as-is. Unless it has specific wording that expressly says that such improvements have to be implemented. And if such a thing existed, CryTek won't have used the GLA as a breach of contract, when they were already safe with IP infringement.

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Dusty Lens
Jul 1, 2015

All Glory unto the Stimpire. Give up your arms and legs and embrace the beautiful agony of electricity that doubles in pain every second.

I would love to read a paragraph of legal text that defines quality.

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D_Smart
May 11, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
College Slice

ZekeNY posted:

Let's not get wrapped around the axle on the Skadden thing. I've litigated against them, and I've litigated alongside them, and the clear majority of their cases settle before trial (if only because trials at that level are just so expensive). But you also don't hire them for something trivial. You hire them when it's time to bet the company.

Yup. This is precisely what my attorney told me when we got wind of this lawsuit. Even though I already knew they had hired Skadden months ago, it wasn't clear if they would be retained for the full showdown, or just the opening volley.

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