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Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

BeigeJacket posted:

I’ve been ambivalent about these new Star Wars films (the first two were perfectly bland pieces of product, a few snappy lines, a few decent enough action scenes but not a single interesting idea between them). But this new one really has me rolling my eyes out of my head.

There’s just no reason for these things to exist. The story was done. Going back for another go is just so pandering and cynical. But people seem to love it.

tbqh i'm surprised at the negative backlash i'm seeing. like, not from critics of course, but it feels worse than TFA.

edit: wow, the metacritic user score is worse than any other SW film :captainpop:

Milkfred E. Moore fucked around with this message at 13:20 on Dec 15, 2017

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Dogeh
Aug 30, 2017

ShitMeter: -------------|- 99%

tuo posted:

I actually wonder if anyone at CIG ever in his live wore a helmet, like for example a Goalie Mask that has a cage. Or actually a helmet with a visor, like a racing helmet.

Hint: you don't see the helmet, you don't even clearly see the bars of a cage, you just have a slight blurry thing because your focus is much further away.

Everytime I see this, it's so loving stupid and unrealistisc, I fail to understand that the people who want to load cargo manually eight hours straight are okay with such bullshit....

Whatever it takes to increase those framerates by 1fps....

Morningwoodpecker
Jan 17, 2016

I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS POSSIBLE FOR SOMEONE TO BE THIS STUPID

BUT HERE YOU ARE

alphabettitouretti posted:

Even if it wasn't I'd question the wisdom of spending $12k on a coffee machine and hiring a barista using your crowd-funded money when the fantastically ambitious game you're supposed to be making is years behind schedule. That's not to say staff shouldn't have perks but there are more cost effective alternatives.

It's not just cost effectiveness, coffee coming out of machines is always slightly skanky as you can never quite clean them properly (or trust lazy co-workers to clean them badly). A filter paper stuck in a plastic jug makes the best coffee and the indestructible jugs cost 13 francs 25 years ago.

It's flashy, but crap. CIG all over really.

tuo
Jun 17, 2016

Byolante posted:



I wore one of these 3 hours a day for 8 years. You can't even see the grill on that, you just see a darker version of what you would normally see.

Yeah, I'm a hockey goalie since over 25 years and wore nearly every cage there is for goalies (from the ones you have to wear in youth leagues with quite a lot of bars to the cat eye cages you are allowed to wear on adult leagues where the bars curve around the eye) and also sometimes wear a racing helmet on track days. Never ever would I get the idea to render any part of a helmet in a game, let alone fully in focus!

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here

tuo posted:

I actually wonder if anyone at CIG ever in his live wore a helmet, like for example a Goalie Mask that has a cage. Or actually a helmet with a visor, like a racing helmet.

Hint: you don't see the helmet, you don't even clearly see the bars of a cage, you just have a slight blurry thing because your focus is much further away.

Everytime I see this, it's so loving stupid and unrealistisc, I fail to understand that the people who want to load cargo manually eight hours straight are okay with such bullshit....

It got extra bad when he got in the plane and he had to look through his helmet cage at the obtrusive cockpit crap as well and he just gave up.

Golli
Jan 5, 2013



tuo posted:

Yeah, I'm a hockey goalie since over 25 years and wore nearly every cage there is for goalies (from the ones you have to wear in youth leagues with quite a lot of bars to the cat eye cages you are allowed to wear on adult leagues where the bars curve around the eye) and also sometimes wear a racing helmet on track days. Never ever would I get the idea to render any part of a helmet in a game, let alone fully in focus!

Chris should have worn a helmet more often when he was a kid, maybe he would be more normal now.

tuo
Jun 17, 2016

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

It got extra bad when he got in the plane and he had to look through his helmet cage at the obtrusive cockpit crap as well and he just gave up.

It's not like modern fighter jet canopies are designed to have nearly no obstructions anywhere so the pilot can see as much poo poo as possible, even though most engagements are mid/longrage. Or how they are implementing VR-type stuff to actually "see through the hull" on helicopters (or very expensive SUVs to see through the engine compartment and check what's on the ground in front of the forward axle).

Ramadu
Aug 25, 2004

2015 NFL MVP


Milky Moor posted:

tbqh i'm surprised at the negative backlash i'm seeing. like, not from critics of course, but it feels worse than TFA.

edit: wow, the metacritic user score is worse than any other SW film :captainpop:

I'm shocked the critics liked it so much. I went in having seen one tralier like 8 months ago and read nothing and heard nothing at 12:50am. It was boring. So so boring. It had a couple of super super cool parts but in general it was just really plodding with zero tension and everyone being dumb and making dumb decisions. It felt like bad star wars fan fiction. In the way that unlike how the original trilogy they would reference real experiences and stuff you could relate too but this just referenced old star wars stuff. The IMAX I saw it in started off clapping and stuff and was just dead silent thorugh the movie and there was a lot of disgust at the end of it.

i want my 3 hours back. gently caress you disney you hack frauds

tuo
Jun 17, 2016

Golli posted:

Chris should have worn a helmet more often when he was a kid, maybe he would be more normal now.

Should have gotten some slapshots to the head, imo. Makes you snap right back to reality, every time (and hooray a little for beeing another "save").

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything



Fun Shoe
Yeah all you should see of the helmet is the display and, maybe, an occasional reflection/glare.

Dusty Lens
Jul 1, 2015

All Glory unto the Stimpire. Give up your arms and legs and embrace the beautiful agony of electricity that doubles in pain every second.

Morningwoodpecker posted:

It's not just cost effectiveness, coffee coming out of machines is always slightly skanky as you can never quite clean them properly (or trust lazy co-workers to clean them badly). A filter paper stuck in a plastic jug makes the best coffee and the indestructible jugs cost 13 francs 25 years ago.

It's flashy, but crap. CIG all over really.

Place I was hired to work at had one of those old Starbucks auto coffee machines with the huge rolling filters. People were complaining to me when I first came on that it was kind of finicky and predisposed to slow pours of not amazing coffee.

I open it up and I swear to god there must have been a years worth of moldering grounds crammed into every available secret hollow of the machine's internal structure. It smelled like someone had died of dysentery in a vat of fermented garlic.

Dusty Lens
Jul 1, 2015

All Glory unto the Stimpire. Give up your arms and legs and embrace the beautiful agony of electricity that doubles in pain every second.

The new Star Wars is good. Afterall you might have gone your entire life not knowing that the person standing beside you that you called friend is the type of person who would think that Rogue One was a great film because of that amazing space battle at the end and Vader in the hallway was so badass.

Nyast
Nov 14, 2017

BLAZING AT THE
SPEED OF LIGHT

D_Smart posted:

Nope, haven't heard that. It's hilarious that the rumor mill is now all of a sudden starting to churn on the one thing (besides horrid performance) that's basically killed the game: networking

Plus I call bullshit because NO software licensing agreement gives any guarantee of performance - like ever. It's always as-is. Unless it has specific wording that expressly says that such improvements have to be implemented. And if such a thing existed, CryTek won't have used the GLA as a breach of contract, when they were already safe with IP infringement.

You're forgetting that clause in the GLA, you know, the one that guarantees that Cryengine can run Chris's vision with billions of polygons at 2000 fps. Right.. right ?

Nyast
Nov 14, 2017

BLAZING AT THE
SPEED OF LIGHT

The Saddest Robot posted:

Section 2.14.e of the GLA states that Crytek is responsible for implementing and maintaining gravity goo.

You forget about doors.

And ramps.

And elevators.

gently caress it, Crytek is definitely responsible for everything that went wrong with Star Citizen.

thatguy
Feb 5, 2003

eonwe posted:

so you're saying space court actually exists
:yossame:

Combat Theory
Jul 16, 2017

I really liked Roque one and I like TLJ, I think TLJ is better than TFA and better than the prequels, mostly because it is a lot different than the originals, without becoming PT bad. but hey movies are personal taste and I'm way too smooth brained on the finer arts to say my 5 cents on it have anymore worth than other peoples.

Dusty Lens
Jul 1, 2015

All Glory unto the Stimpire. Give up your arms and legs and embrace the beautiful agony of electricity that doubles in pain every second.

At least no one has spoken ill of Star Trek 4.

Golli
Jan 5, 2013



Reviews are skewed by all the people who bought tickets to TLJ just to watch the SQ42 trailer.

Mr Fronts
Jan 31, 2016

Yo! The Mafia supports you. But don't tell no one. Spread the word.

SomethingJones posted:

Star Citizen: Around the Verse
Dec 14 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Piy-ibiq1M&t=1032s

Clive Johnson (Lead Network Programmer):
Last week we've been fixing issues, em, probably most notably there was a bug were if the server had been running for about 6 hours the PHYSICS TIME WOULD START GOING BACKWARDS

One of our network guys spotted the issue, put a fix in, and now time always goes forwards... which is good to know


:discourse:

CHRIS ROBERTS: "You know, Crytek, I wouldn't be CEO if I didn't have some powers at my command. ORTWIN... HALT THE FLOW OF TIME!"

Combat Theory
Jul 16, 2017

Dusty Lens posted:

At least no one has spoken ill of Star Trek 4.

How could we, it's supposed to come out 2019

:smuggo:

Dusty Lens
Jul 1, 2015

All Glory unto the Stimpire. Give up your arms and legs and embrace the beautiful agony of electricity that doubles in pain every second.

Combat Theory posted:

How could we, it's supposed to come out 2019

:smuggo:

:negative:

thatguy
Feb 5, 2003

Palpek posted:

There are a lot of things to hate about CIG but a cost of a nice espresso machine at a 200+ people office isn't one of them.
You're in the wrong thread.

Ramadu
Aug 25, 2004

2015 NFL MVP


Golli posted:

Reviews are skewed by all the people who bought tickets to TLJ just to watch the SQ42 trailer.

i was so looking forward to it but my theater showed 0 previews. i guess chris bought the whole block of time but forgot to ship the trailer so we just sorta waited 15 minutes then started the movie

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer


I'm a 3.0 tester and it's amazing

Rugganovich
Apr 29, 2017
..........Meanwhile at an undisclosed location, somehwere in Los Angeles

Dogeh
Aug 30, 2017

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tuo posted:

Yeah, I'm a hockey goalie since over 25 years and wore nearly every cage there is for goalies (from the ones you have to wear in youth leagues with quite a lot of bars to the cat eye cages you are allowed to wear on adult leagues where the bars curve around the eye) and also sometimes wear a racing helmet on track days. Never ever would I get the idea to render any part of a helmet in a game, let alone fully in focus!

Once I had a pickup game of ball hockey and had pads and helmet, but no box.
Thinking I'd be OK and be able to protect the family jewels, I continued on.
There was no way anyone could be that accurate.

I got smoked in the nuts with a slapshot. Twice.

Sandweed
Sep 7, 2006

All your friends are me.

New star wars was fun and good, I'm sorry you nerds can't enjoy it now that normal people also likes it.

Dooguk
Oct 11, 2016

Pillbug

Dogeh posted:

Once I had a pickup game of ball hockey and had pads and helmet, but no box.
Thinking I'd be OK and be able to protect the family jewels, I continued on.
There was no way anyone could be that accurate.

I got smoked in the nuts with a slapshot. Twice.

Take the pain, but leave the swelling.

Golli
Jan 5, 2013



Sandweed posted:

New star wars was fun and good, I'm sorry you nerds can't enjoy it now that normal people also likes it.

How many coats would you rate it on the Eckhart scale?

Bayonnefrog
Nov 9, 2017


It's like they did this with HTML. Like it's 2017 and they couldn't come up with anything better?

Dogeh
Aug 30, 2017

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Dooguk posted:

Take the pain, but leave the swelling.

Yeah. Grapefruits would be an accurate description.
My vasectomy was nowhere as painful. :D

Dogeh
Aug 30, 2017

ShitMeter: -------------|- 99%

Bayonnefrog posted:

It's like they did this with HTML. Like it's 2017 and they couldn't come up with anything better?

It is CIG.
They use old technologies.

Dusty Lens
Jul 1, 2015

All Glory unto the Stimpire. Give up your arms and legs and embrace the beautiful agony of electricity that doubles in pain every second.

Sandweed posted:

New star wars was fun and good, I'm sorry you nerds can't enjoy it now that normal people also likes it.

Star Wars was better before it went mainstream in 1979.

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016
I am literally lol'ing that Derek Smart Was Right

And goddammit that better be the title of his book

e: that or (if) I CALLED IT

tuo
Jun 17, 2016

Dogeh posted:

Once I had a pickup game of ball hockey and had pads and helmet, but no box.
Thinking I'd be OK and be able to protect the family jewels, I continued on.
There was no way anyone could be that accurate.

I got smoked in the nuts with a slapshot. Twice.

There's a simple rule you will learn quickly:

1) forgot your goalie cup combo: they'll nail you in the balls 100% guaranteed this time
2) forgot your knee guard: they'll nail you straight on the knee and it's game over for this season 90% guaranteed

allthough no. 2 aint a problem nowadays with thigh guards that are attached to the pads, allthough some idiot sharpshooters even manage to find the tiny slit on them in a scramble and knock your knee out

Dusty Lens
Jul 1, 2015

All Glory unto the Stimpire. Give up your arms and legs and embrace the beautiful agony of electricity that doubles in pain every second.

It's going to consist of twelve pages explaining the timeline of SC's collapse and how he knew it would happen followed by roughly 1800 pages shifting randomly between yelling about people on reddit, photographs of his twitter feed and feverish fanfiction describing what the game would look like if he had made it.

It'll ship with a 10% off code for Line of Defense.

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

It got extra bad when he got in the plane and he had to look through his helmet cage at the obtrusive cockpit crap as well and he just gave up.

DOOM 2016 did it perfectly. Put on helmet, lights flash into your eyes, helmet disappears as surrounding are is beamed right into your eyeballs.

Years ago I played a round of Arena Commander where the game glitched and my ship disappeared. It was by far the most enjoyable match I ever had.

Dusty Lens
Jul 1, 2015

All Glory unto the Stimpire. Give up your arms and legs and embrace the beautiful agony of electricity that doubles in pain every second.

I'm disgusted with myself for remembering you posting those same sentiments on the SC forums.

I should have learned how to play the harmonica.

Morningwoodpecker
Jan 17, 2016

I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS POSSIBLE FOR SOMEONE TO BE THIS STUPID

BUT HERE YOU ARE

Dusty Lens posted:

Place I was hired to work at had one of those old Starbucks auto coffee machines with the huge rolling filters. People were complaining to me when I first came on that it was kind of finicky and predisposed to slow pours of not amazing coffee.

I open it up and I swear to god there must have been a years worth of moldering grounds crammed into every available secret hollow of the machine's internal structure. It smelled like someone had died of dysentery in a vat of fermented garlic.

Just that, if I ever decide to drink coffee flavored with blue furry mold I'll have the one that's been growing behind my monitor.

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D_Smart
May 11, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
College Slice

SomethingJones posted:

I have a burning question for our litigator friends and legal eagles posting in the thread:

Given everything that we know, what is the worst possible thing that CIG could do, and when do you think they will do it?

I am not a lawyer. But from someone with experience in IP and royalty lawsuits, having been engaged (and won) in 3 (including with Take Two) over the years, my thoughts:

1) say|write stupid poo poo in public or in email that provides evidence in support of a claim

Skadden literally has trolleys of this already. They just get to pick and choose

2) say|write stupid poo poo - as per the above - that comes out during discovery

Ortwin just gave them an open and shut freebie in the public statement they issue:

"We are aware of the Crytek complaint having been filed in the US District Court,” the spokesperson said. “CIG hasn’t used the CryEngine for quite some time since we switched to Amazon’s Lumberyard. This is a meritless lawsuit that we will defend vigorously against, including recovering from Crytek any costs incurred in this matter."

If there is a SINGLE line in the GLA that supports CryTek claim that they were supposed to develop the game with CryEngine - and there was no "out" - they're hosed. Why? Because even if ALL the other claims get tossed, this one would be a clear breach of contract and it comes with very hefty damages.

Anyone who thinks that a firm like Skadden, after seeing the GLA, would craft a lawsuit around such a position were it not solid, is a loving moron.

3) Not settle. Instead, keep pissing around and playing hardball until Skadden starts sending out preservation notices - which they probably already sent out, preparation for discovery etc

Cases go on and on and can get settled even right on the day of trial. But usually in high profile and damaging cases, most of the damage is already done during discovery. And in the case of CryTek v CIG, the single worst possible thing they would do, is let this go to discovery.

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