Cricket 2012: Cricket has always been a game stuck in the past

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Blackface in crowd	129	55.36%
References to Lord of the Rings	104	44.64%
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garycoleisgod: Sep 27, 2004; Boo

That was out so no problem, but...

That was far more inline than Bancrofts lbw, yet it was umpire's call here and totally inline on Bancrofts. Visually it looks totally opposite to that.

The ball tracking is hosed up.

# ? Dec 15, 2017 10:22

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# ? Apr 28, 2024 16:23

Seams: Feb 3, 2005; ROCK HARD

england into the tail now

# ? Dec 15, 2017 10:24

ShaneMacGowansTeeth: May 22, 2007; I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

Scylo posted:

Unless he finds another career soon KP's got a good solid 30 years of commentary ahead of him. KP's on about Khawaja's energy now and how Marsh is just so much better with his energy

Someone take away KP's passport and leave him in Australia

# ? Dec 15, 2017 10:25

runoverbobby: Apr 21, 2007; Fighting like beavers.

According to KP England should think about taking a wicket here.

To show some of those beautiful magnificent youngsters how it's done.

# ? Dec 15, 2017 10:34

RideTheSpiral: Sep 18, 2005; College Slice

we�ll be looking for 3 or 4 quick wickets here

# ? Dec 15, 2017 10:39

Smorgasbord: Jun 18, 2004; Our review identified changes needed to be made and, in Stephen, we have a coach who has a reputation for demanding the highest standards.

7 quick wickets and they're done

# ? Dec 15, 2017 10:41

Seams: Feb 3, 2005; ROCK HARD

everyone always talks about how shaun marsh is such a graceful strokemaker like hes gower or mark waugh but he always looks scratchy as gently caress to me

# ? Dec 15, 2017 10:43

Smorgasbord: Jun 18, 2004; Our review identified changes needed to be made and, in Stephen, we have a coach who has a reputation for demanding the highest standards.

Nice diving fistbump lads

# ? Dec 15, 2017 10:53

runoverbobby: Apr 21, 2007; Fighting like beavers.

Seams posted:

everyone always talks about how shaun marsh is such a graceful strokemaker like hes gower or mark waugh but he always looks scratchy as gently caress to me

There aren't many graceful strokemakers on either side. Cook, Smith, and Warner certainly aren't. Bairstow and Root are pragmatic.

Moeen Ali and Smarsh are the only two who are vaguely stylish (and James Vince I guess).

# ? Dec 15, 2017 10:55

Airstream Driver: May 6, 2009

Imagine if Mark Waugh was in this Australian team. They would be saying he was the best player ever.

# ? Dec 15, 2017 10:59

RideTheSpiral: Sep 18, 2005; College Slice

Airstream Driver posted:

Imagine if Mark Waugh was in this Australian team. They would be saying he was the best player ever.

but who would be in commentary to say it

# ? Dec 15, 2017 11:00

Seams: Feb 3, 2005; ROCK HARD

runoverbobby posted:

There aren't many graceful strokemakers on either side. Cook, Smith, and Warner certainly aren't. Bairstow and Root are pragmatic.

Moeen Ali and Smarsh are the only two who are vaguely stylish (and James Vince I guess).

khawaja can play some nice shots but only against pace

# ? Dec 15, 2017 11:03

Amoeba102: Jan 22, 2010

Would have wanted one less wicket there to end the day. I'd have liked for Usman to hang around till Smith got 100 at least. Going to need the Marshes to hang around until at least 300 to stay in this game.

# ? Dec 15, 2017 11:19

Lionel Richie: Nov 14, 2004

MrL_JaKiri posted:

Do you guys get the "Why is 100 better than 99? I have NO IDEA" Pietersen clips over there

I've been looking for it online so the absolute cringe bellendery of it can be shared with the world but it doesn't seem to be anywhere

# ? Dec 15, 2017 13:09

ShaneMacGowansTeeth: May 22, 2007; I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

Lionel Richie posted:

I've been looking for it online so the absolute cringe bellendery of it can be shared with the world but it doesn't seem to be anywhere

some things are meant to stay buried

# ? Dec 15, 2017 13:13

Fanatic: Mar 9, 2006

Sometimes I wonder if KP studied Richie Benaud's commentary tapes, just by the way he uses words like "magnificent" all the drat time. But unlike Richie, comes across as a pretentious knob.

# ? Dec 15, 2017 14:13

edogawa rando: Mar 20, 2007

Smorgasbord posted:

They won't get it, for some reason Burger King is called Hungry Jack's over there. Is the Whopper still a Whopper? Maybe it is a Royale.

When Burger King expanded into Australia at the start of the 70s, they found that a takeaway shop in Adelaide already had trademarked the name, so they got the guy who franchised the chain to come up with an alternative name - guy was called Jack Cowin, hence Hungry Jack's. When the preexisting Adelaide trademark lapsed in the late 90s, Burger King actually opened a few stores and tried to limit the number of HJ franchises and their operations. Hungry Jack's sued and won in 2001. After a couple of years, Burger King, under new management, reached an agreement with Hungry Jack's, leading to all existing BK franchises to be rebranded as HJs, in addition to the already existing HJ stores.

# ? Dec 15, 2017 22:19

tarbrush: Feb 7, 2011; ALL ABOARD THE SCOTLAND HYPE TRAIN!

CHOO CHOO

runoverbobby posted:

vaguely stylish (and James Vince I guess).

I guess bad is a style...

# ? Dec 15, 2017 22:41

Centusin: Aug 5, 2009

Apparently Johnson at this point in the 2013 series had 19 wickets and right now Starc has 18

# ? Dec 16, 2017 01:07

Coucho Marx: Mar 2, 2009; kick back and relax

Scylo posted:

Apparently Johnson at this point in the 2013 series had 19 wickets and right now Starc has 18

Stats after five completed innings:

code:

Starc

O    M R  W
28   4 77 3
16   1 51 3
20   4 49 3
19.2 3 88 5
25.1 5 91 4

108.3 17 356 18
(654 balls, including extras)

18 @19.77, economy rate 3.28, strike rate 36.33

code:

Johnson

O    M R  W
17   2 61 4
21.1 7 42 5
17.2 8 40 7
24   8 73 1
22   7 62 2

101.3 32 278 19
(616 balls, including extras)

19 @14.63, economy rate 2.74, strike rate 32.42

Notable is Starc's amazing average vs. Johnson's absolutely insane average. Johnson's economy rate is also much better, and actually basically matches his economy rate for the series. Both strike rates are also stupid low.

Also, looking at scorecards, Starc has 11 wickets of positions 1-7, and 7 wickets of positions 8-11. So he's not just blowing away the tail (his average against them is probably in the single figures), but is actually better at getting key wickets in the top and middle order. Johnson at this point had 10 and 9, so he was doing the same.

And, in my opinion, Cummins has looked the better bowler for most of the series so far.

Coucho Marx fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Dec 16, 2017

# ? Dec 16, 2017 02:16

Smorgasbord: Jun 18, 2004; Our review identified changes needed to be made and, in Stephen, we have a coach who has a reputation for demanding the highest standards.

Proof that sometimes stats and averages can lead you astray

# ? Dec 16, 2017 02:57

Burn Down Canberra: Oct 27, 2005; GAME PLANS? We don't need no stinking game plans.

I think it was pretty clear that Johnson was upsetting the top order a lot more than Starc is. I think Starc is benefiting from a bowling attack that is mostly quite tight (although they do have spells where they lose the plot)

Still the English tail look like they have no idea against him.

# ? Dec 16, 2017 03:25

Coucho Marx: Mar 2, 2009; kick back and relax

Smith got there easily.

# ? Dec 16, 2017 03:55

CAT INTERCEPTOR: Nov 9, 2004; Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

No one cares Smith scores yet another 100 or we just presume that every time he bats?

# ? Dec 16, 2017 03:57

Burn Down Canberra: Oct 27, 2005; GAME PLANS? We don't need no stinking game plans.

Smith brings up his 7th ashes century. The most out of any active players by a fair margin. Cook has the second most with 4.

He goes equal with Maurice Layland, Michael Slater, Bill Lawry, John Edrich, Michael Clarke and Alan Border for ashes centuries. Only 9 batsmen have scored more ashes centuries.

# ? Dec 16, 2017 04:00

snaeksikn: Feb 28, 2010

Michael Clarke is getting pretty grey, he should probably stop bleaching his hair

# ? Dec 16, 2017 04:05

snaeksikn: Feb 28, 2010

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

No one cares Smith scores yet another 100 or we just presume that every time he bats?

Well every time he passes 50 he's guaranteed to get a century at this point in his career.

Isn't it also like once he passes 20 there's an 80% chance he will get a century or some other stat they were rattling off in Adelaide?

# ? Dec 16, 2017 04:08

Smorgasbord: Jun 18, 2004; Our review identified changes needed to be made and, in Stephen, we have a coach who has a reputation for demanding the highest standards.

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

No one cares Smith scores yet another 100 or we just presume that every time he bats?

Well it is only against England after all.

# ? Dec 16, 2017 04:11

Burn Down Canberra: Oct 27, 2005; GAME PLANS? We don't need no stinking game plans.

What about Healy doing the lightsabre noise. That was weird

# ? Dec 16, 2017 04:17

Coucho Marx: Mar 2, 2009; kick back and relax

Literally the first ball I sit down to watch.

# ? Dec 16, 2017 04:25

BrigadierSensible: Feb 16, 2012; I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

Some dumbarse on Cricinfo just compared MMarsh to Smith in that Smith took 24 matches to get his first hundred and was also initially in teh team as an allrounder, and that Marsh has only played 22 tests, so all we have to do is wait two tests and he will come good.

# ? Dec 16, 2017 04:53

runoverbobby: Apr 21, 2007; Fighting like beavers.

KP: If England can strike with this new ball Australia could be down by as much as 80, 70, 60, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, or none at all if they can get a lead.

# ? Dec 16, 2017 04:55

RideTheSpiral: Sep 18, 2005; College Slice

runoverbobby posted:

KP: If England can strike with this new ball Australia could be down by as much as 80, 70, 60, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, or none at all if they can get a lead.

ive crunched the numbers and this checks out

# ? Dec 16, 2017 05:00

runoverbobby: Apr 21, 2007; Fighting like beavers.

Slats: If England don't get Smith out he might get 215.

# ? Dec 16, 2017 05:02

Halo14: Sep 11, 2001

KPs voice really irks me, dunno why I'm so annoyed by it.

# ? Dec 16, 2017 05:03

Centusin: Aug 5, 2009

I still don't think Mitch Marsh looks like a good batsman. He's no Watto that's for sure.

# ? Dec 16, 2017 05:04

Burn Down Canberra: Oct 27, 2005; GAME PLANS? We don't need no stinking game plans.

BrigadierSensible posted:

Some dumbarse on Cricinfo just compared MMarsh to Smith in that Smith took 24 matches to get his first hundred and was also initially in teh team as an allrounder, and that Marsh has only played 22 tests, so all we have to do is wait two tests and he will come good.

Yeah that is silly.

People have bought into this weird narrative with Smith. Smith had been averaging ~50 for NSW when he first got selected to Australia. He was forced into playing as an allrounder because Cricket Australia went crazy after Warne retired.

# ? Dec 16, 2017 05:05