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Nebakenezzer posted:Who is Ortwin again? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ortwin_Freyermuth
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Its sad when even Tommy Wiseau has a more accessible and larger cult following for a lovely project. Wiseau also definitely has passion for what he's doing while Roberts always seems annoyed when he has to talk about SC nowadays.
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Hav posted:You’re still explaining source code to the public and there are innocuous ways that it could happen. Not a jury trial. So I have been having a text exchange with me attorney... One of those discussions involves all the paid shills/streamers who probably haven't been disclosing (as per FTC guidelines) that they were either sponsored by or received gifts from CIG. ALL of that is going to come out in discovery. I had completely forgotten about those pricks!! So those emails are probably going to contain any sort of instructions from CIG, discussions etc, that related to me. Which is why I had posted yesterday in the new tweet storm* that discovery is going to be such a loving lol factory, that it's going to open them to even more aggro and lawsuits (e.g. from me) * https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/941688759589986305( ----------------
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The very last page of the complaint has a demand for a jury trial. We may never get there since CIG seems intent on proving there's no material dispute of facts and going straight to the money extraction phase, but it's there.
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If you ask me, with the ELE upon us, it's a good time to open up a crisp, cool can of Dr. Smart.
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Man i have the giggles every darn time your Avator scrolls onto my screen. Also when you release the book, if i purchase it and sent it to you somehow someway, would you be willing to personally sign it and write some sort of special msg on the inside cover, my old man is a fan of your games and other older 80's/90's space sims and i recon it would be a kick rear end present to give to him.
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Caught up thanks to the recap thread. Virtual Captain is the one true god, bow down to him oh ye Crobblerewe2 posted:Here's a little song I wrote, you might want to learn it note for note, don't worry be happy
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3.0 Jesus Patch posted:Man i have the giggles every darn time your Avator scrolls onto my screen. Once Crytek own Star Citizen, they can bring the good doctor on board and he can appear at Citizencons.
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spacetoaster posted:If you ask me, with the ELE upon us, it's a good time to open up a crisp, cool can of Dr. Smart. Right.
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Abuminable posted:I can't wrap my mind around the idea that Bezos spent tens of millions on CryEngine. Didn't he realize he could go to CryTek's website and download it for free?
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kw0134 posted:The very last page of the complaint has a demand for a jury trial. We may never get there since CIG seems intent on proving there's no material dispute of facts and going straight to the money extraction phase, but it's there. Yeah, that's what I mean. It will never get that far. I have no reason to believe they're dumb enough to not settle this long before then. https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/942039652399288322 ----------------
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spacetoaster posted:If you ask me, with the ELE upon us, it's a good time to open up a crisp, cool can of Dr. Smart. put hot sauce in it
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3.0 Jesus Patch posted:Man i have the giggles every darn time your Avator scrolls onto my screen. Yeah, I love it. I wish I knew who bought it. Whoever bought me that, please PM me so I can set a reminder to send a free autographed copy of the book. quote:Also when you release the book, if i purchase it and sent it to you somehow someway, would you be willing to personally sign it and write some sort of special msg on the inside cover, my old man is a fan of your games and other older 80's/90's space sims and i recon it would be a kick rear end present to give to him. Yes, of course. I will post instructions on how to do that once it is published. Right now, the plan is for hardcover, paperback and Kindle. So anyone buying and send me their copy in a self-addressed return mailer, will get it signed. And I don't care how many pages it takes, all Goons actively involved in this drama since The July Blog, will be listed individually. I am still waiting on legal to let me know if I can in fact use the memes which have become part of the drama culture. Though they are in public domain, the ones I use, I may just need a waiver from the creators. But I will cross that bridge when I get to it. I am also considering doing an audio book of all the blogs, and all the key articles I have written. Just need to figure out if I am going to narrate it, of have a voice actor do it; since I know several who have worked with me on games over the years. ----------------
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D_Smart posted:Yes, of course. I will post instructions on how to do that once it is published. Right now, the plan is for hardcover, paperback and Kindle. So anyone buying and send me their copy in a self-addressed return mailer, will get it signed. Get Ken Burns to do a documentary. Working Title: "The Dumbest Thumb in the Room" The Ken Burns pan over AdzAdama portfolio would be glorious.
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D_Smart posted:Yeah, that's what I mean. It will never get that far. I have no reason to believe they're dumb enough to not settle this long before then. Between the allegations of money issues and the fact some of what's in the lawsuit is tied up as collateral in a loan, is settling still a death-blow for CIG? Would they have anything left at the end?
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I'm guessing settling at this point means that Crytek would take like 30% of everything CIG manages to ingest, with code police and a shitload of other oversight crobbo wouldn't care for if that happens, Chris would end up leaving
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TheAgent posted:I'm guessing settling at this point means that Crytek would take like 30% of everything CIG manages to ingest, with code police and a shitload of other oversight crobbo wouldn't care for So Star Citizen might actually be finished in 2018 is what you're saying.
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I think I've always said 2018 was when star citizen was coming out
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TheAgent posted:I'm guessing settling at this point means that Crytek would take like 30% of everything CIG manages to ingest, with code police and a shitload of other oversight crobbo wouldn't care for Well that's definitely a stake through the heart of the ol' vampire.
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TheAgent posted:I'm guessing settling at this point means that Crytek would take like 30% of everything CIG manages to ingest, with code police and a shitload of other oversight crobbo wouldn't care for Maybe a revenue sharing deal. Idiot whales can pay for it.
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All this talk about "discovery" can someone enlighten me? Is it a new ship?
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TheLastRoboKy posted:Well that's definitely a stake through the heart of the ol' vampire. I think backers are more in love with their dreams than with "Chris as a visionary" by now. If he leaves and they see a clear path to their ships being in a playable game, they will quickly pivot to "Yeah, we knew Chris was a hack and a terrible manager all along. (We have always been at war with Eastasia.)"
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I remember someone showing some sort of in game league table for Star Citizen, like some game mode, where one combat ship dominated everything. Anyone know what that was? And what the ship was, and if this still applies? I am doing internet arguing.
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Beef Hardcheese posted:I wonder how Crytek would feel about filling the role of a publisher? they just want their cash and when you end up loving over someone for years, they want more so even if CIG settles, it's going to be for an upfront amount + back end + probably POS for any ship or asset, with quarterly code reviews to make sure CIG is sticking to the deal becoming their publisher just saddles them with a shitload of problems
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If Derek does write a book about this I hope it is in the form of a choose your own adventure, with every page citing other pages in the book ultimately ending in a link to his July blog.
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EminusSleepus posted:All this talk about "discovery" can someone enlighten me? Is it a new ship? Imagine a house. Imagine that house is full of steaks. Imagine yourself grilling up one of those steaks. Imagine eating up that delicious steak on the back porch of your upper middle class Maine home overlooking the autumn trees starting to take on their first color of the year while the neighbor's golden retriever sits by your side. It's crisp out, but not so cold that you can't enjoy a nice beer.
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no. that was right. so right. amen brother
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TheAgent posted:I'm guessing settling at this point means that Crytek would take like 30% of everything CIG manages to ingest, with code police and a shitload of other oversight crobbo wouldn't care for It's worse. Though I am not at liberty to share anything further, anyone who thinks this lawsuit is just hand-waving, is a loving ignorant moron. It has teeth; big teeth. And CIG/RSI can neither afford (they will try) to settle, nor delay it - thus risking crazy things like depositions & discovery. They are truly in a really bad Catch-22 situation. Also... https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/941770899488899072 ----------------
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Dusty Lens posted:Imagine a house. This made me hungry...... Again
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TheAgent posted:they don't want anything to do with that, I imagine I am confused. Are we saying CIG may be forced to back out of Lumberyard? Then again Crytek are claiming some sort of exclusive tied deal was made?
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D_Smart posted:It's worse. - Coutts did their due diligence, Coutts was aware when they handed over the dosh for Sq42 rights - But SQ42 is essentially running on an unlicensed engine, Coutts knew this, CIG knew this - Crytek threatening SQ42 maybe have been "encouraged" by Coutts - Coutts now take SC ownership since that was the collateral offered and CIG took the loan under false pretences - Crytek, due to previously signed deal, force CIG to back SC out of Lumberyard - Ben Parry has to draw a new diagram to show how easy this is - SC drags on whales being milked for eternity ? reverend crabhands fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Dec 16, 2017 |
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I just saw the argument that CIG can settle by giving CryTek a portion of sales of only the game packages. All the ship sales are separate, so they don't have to give any of that money. Therefore it will only be a few million.
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reverend crabhands posted:I am confused. So basically what crytek wants is for a complete halt of use of anything that uses cryengine or derived from cryengine. I didn't read the complaint but from what someone posted that's what it comes down to. So if crytek wins not only will they want (a lot) money for the multiple breaches of the contract but they want to stop CIG from using their IP and that means that CIG will have to literally start from scratch I don't think crytek is gonna settle either Phi230 fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Dec 16, 2017 |
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