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Karl Barks posted:supposedly, we were told that if we did not incorporate, national would withold their tax ID # - not sure if this is the same thing as what you're saying The board of directors is not required to vote on anything per the laws here in Oklahoma. Your articles of incorporation/bylaws can account for a general membership being able to vote, without being on the board. I sort of see what they are thinking (that there'd be a officers group and then a board of directors with powers the officers group doesn't have) but your bylaws can make that a non-issue. We had the same discussion. But I also think it depends on the state laws, incorporation here in Oklahoma is very easy. And do you mean the EIN (Employer ID Number)? The incorporation team we spoke to said that they considered it and decided that they are not going to give that out to anyone because it means whomever is using that EIN is being filed under the same taxes, it's like sharing a social security number. So it would require national to have every local using that EIN to submit all their financial paperwork to national, which is a nightmare on many levels. They were suggesting everyone incorporate and file for your own EIN, and then they would file for group exemption status for their organization meaning every subsidiary wouldn't have to apply for tax-exempt status individually, they'd just be approved as a subsidiary organization so it cuts down immensely on the paperwork. Otherwise you have to prove to the IRS you are eligible every year and probably have to hire an accountant.
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Tricky Dick Nixon posted:The board of directors is not required to vote on anything per the laws here in Oklahoma. Your articles of incorporation/bylaws can account for a general membership being able to vote, without being on the board. I sort of see what they are thinking (that there'd be a officers group and then a board of directors with powers the officers group doesn't have) but your bylaws can make that a non-issue. We had the same discussion. But I also think it depends on the state laws, incorporation here in Oklahoma is very easy. I think that because we are the oldest active DSA chapter (boston btw), we were using the national EIN for some time. When the org was smaller it didn't really matter. the plan was to incorporate as a 501c4, same as national, so maybe we were trying to skip a step? we wouldn't have needed to get the group exemption from national in this case.
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achillesforever6 posted:Yeah but at the same time Fox was looking to sell and if it wasn't going to be Disney, Comcast was next in line and Comcast is 100000000x more evil than Disney (not saying Disney isn't evil of course) so you're saying the lesser of two evils lol
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Liberals are still pissed that Jill Stein offered to buy Fox for $6 and a stick of gum
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GlyphGryph posted:You chapter seems kind of dumb tbh Look, the last thing we want to do is establish any kind of precedence for competence or responsibility.
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Unbelievably Fat Man posted:Liberals are still pissed that Jill Stein offered to buy Fox for $6 and a stick of gum Why would we be pissed about that?
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Why would we be pissed about that? Why do you feel the need to speak for all liberals?
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Dreddout posted:Why do you feel the need to speak for all liberals? Because I'm the greatest liberal, but also I'm not speaking for all liberals I'm just wondering why that would piss any of us off.
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Karl Barks posted:I think that because we are the oldest active DSA chapter (boston btw), we were using the national EIN for some time. When the org was smaller it didn't really matter. That makes more sense, but the way it was explained to me, the incorporation they were encouraging was to do so as a 501c4, then apply for an EIN once you're a legal entity, and then instead of filing for tax-exempt status getting that group exemption to do so. Irregardless, it sounds like there's some weirdness going on from being a legacy local there. I just want to reiterate about the director thing: Having checked the MA laws about it you could simply have the directors be a mere formality. They are just the group who ratify the bylaws/articles of incorporation that empower other officers and the general assembly, and then continue along as you always have afterwards. So if that helps convince anyone who thinks it might be tiered membership, there it is.
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no need to post your latest project wj
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bump_fn posted:https://twitter.com/mollycrabapple/status/942101585399877632 yeah yeah yeah, I see it and he's not wrong about verso lol
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i love zero books as in the number of books i am going to read is zero
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The Islamic gommunism panel where it's 'ead the fuging salad' but instead it's a leftcom holding a gun to a book's head trying to get them to read 'see spot run'
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this guy is in my local and is cool as hell yes i'm bragging for e-cred. send me to the gulag thx
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that donald tweet is inaccurate. verso would never publish a book that's positive about actually existing socialism
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i read this and liked it https://www.versobooks.com/books/2515-against-everything
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Yo does anybody know if there's a larger version of that tax scam pdf national sent out?
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Would like to see to tangible socialist victories and the lamentation of the liberals
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:lmao account suspended. wj you managed to get banned on twitter before here, impressive lmao i forgot wj joined dsa
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Phi230 posted:Would like to see to tangible socialist victories and the lamentation of the liberals tomorrow we're gonna discuss local elections in a working group and one of our members is gonna run for city council on a platform of homing the homeless, municipal broadband, and community oversight boards over the police. 
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I'm in City Council. We shouted down the Nazi and now we're waging class warfare against parking meters. This rules.
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Halloween Jack posted:I'm in City Council. We shouted down the Nazi and now we're waging class warfare against parking meters. This rules. the revolution will be municipal
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Honorable Delegate and DSA member Lee Carter post your username https://twitter.com/carterforva/status/943245439490576385
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Tricky Dick Nixon posted:the revolution will be municipal sounds like somebody's been googling murray bookchin
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Zikan posted:Honorable Delegate and DSA member Lee Carter post your username Who's the delegate for Hog Island Wildlife Management Area?
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