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John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Mokinokaro posted:

I believe that was the same episode but different aliens.

The opposite, different episode, same aliens

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tarlibone
Aug 1, 2014

Am I a... bad person?
AM I??




Fun Shoe
I wonder... in the future, the Voyager future, you can, as has been noted, call up a hologram of a dinosaur and then say to the computer, "show me what 64 million years of evolution would do to this critter." And it'll do it. And it'll do it right, because you happen to have seen some evolved dinosaurs just the other day, and that's how they looked.

So you have proof of evolution there.

I wonder what the flat-earthers of that era will use as proof that they're right? Because you know there'll be flat-earthers.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

There Bias Two posted:

Some day they shall return to reap foreheads for their vast collection.

"Even the greatest biological experts of our race could not have conceived the vast, almost infinite array of possible forehead ridges this genome could produce. This was truly a worthwhile experiment." *retrieves flaying laser*

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Everybody wants prosthetic foreheads on their real heads.

CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.
Pfft, speak for yourself; I just want a rock to tie a piece of string around.

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:

TheScott2K posted:

It was pretty messed up of Viacom to put a gun to their heads and make them do it.

I think they were brought on and not told it was going to be the series finale until they had already signed on.

Even Braga has admitted, with the gift of hindsight, that it's a really dumb episode for a variety of reasons. It was originally going to be even worse, ending with a shot of the Enterprise-D rather than the Enterprise, before someone told him that would basically be pissing on the ashes.

Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010
College Slice
Apparently, that episode was the only time Bakula lost his temper on set.

Aleph Null
Jun 10, 2008

You look very stressed
Tortured By Flan

Epicurius posted:

Apparently, that episode was the only time Bakula lost his temper on set.

I'd love to read the details on this.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

tarlibone posted:

I wonder what the flat-earthers of that era will use as proof that they're right? Because you know there'll be flat-earthers.

They would have to get even more crazy. Especially when they can be transported right up into space to see the Earth as it is. I would expect them to go further down the path that our eyes are around, so the Earth looks round. We need square eyes to see it as flat as it really is.

Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010
College Slice
I'd like to too, honestly. Braga said in The 50 Year Mission that it was the only time that Bakula came to him with a complaint about a script, and later said it was the only time Bakula was "mean" to him.

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

Cojawfee posted:

They would have to get even more crazy. Especially when they can be transported right up into space to see the Earth as it is. I would expect them to go further down the path that our eyes are around, so the Earth looks round. We need square eyes to see it as flat as it really is.

"No matter from what perspective I look at this so called sphere I can only see a circle! If it was round, there would be a backside."

The great thing about this is that technically, both of those statements are correct.

cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Dec 19, 2017

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer
Maybe Bakula just wanted the ending be, instead of Riker in the Holodeck, that Archer looks in the mirror and sees a different face and then he leaps. The end.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Snak posted:

Maybe Bakula just wanted the ending be, instead of Riker in the Holodeck, that Archer looks in the mirror and sees a different face and then he leaps. The end.

Sam Beckett never returned home though

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer

Iron Crowned posted:

Sam Beckett never returned home though

Obviously not if he's still leaping around in the 23 century.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Cojawfee posted:

They would have to get even more crazy. Especially when they can be transported right up into space to see the Earth as it is. I would expect them to go further down the path that our eyes are around, so the Earth looks round. We need square eyes to see it as flat as it really is.

Only goats know for sure.

8one6
May 20, 2012

When in doubt, err on the side of Awesome!

Iron Crowned posted:

Sam Beckett never returned home though

I still say that the intro for Archer should have been him beaming onto the Enterprise.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Oh man what would even happen if you leapt into someone during matter energy transport? I bet the pattern buffer would mess up and you energize as yourself, while Captain Jonathan Archer materializes in the flesh back in the secret Mesa research facility.

MisterBibs
Jul 17, 2010

dolla dolla
bill y'all
Fun Shoe

Snak posted:

Obviously not if he's still leaping around in the 23 century.

That was the original ending to Quantum Leap, no joke. Sam was missing (or something), and the Bartender/God from the last episode told Al that he can join Sam, but things would be different. The last scene makes it clear that Sam and Al are now leaping into the future, and both are going to be visible.

Aleph Null
Jun 10, 2008

You look very stressed
Tortured By Flan

MisterBibs posted:

That was the original ending to Quantum Leap, no joke. Sam was missing (or something), and the Bartender/God from the last episode told Al that he can join Sam, but things would be different. The last scene makes it clear that Sam and Al are now leaping into the future, and both are going to be visible.

Sam did leap "in the flesh" sort of when he went back and told Al's wife that he was still alive. Or am I mis-remembering?

8one6
May 20, 2012

When in doubt, err on the side of Awesome!

Aleph Null posted:

Sam did leap "in the flesh" sort of when he went back and told Al's wife that he was still alive. Or am I mis-remembering?

There was that episode where there was a lightning strike during a leap and AL and Sam traded places so Sam was back home for an episode.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

8one6 posted:

There was that episode where there was a lightning strike during a leap and AL and Sam traded places so Sam was back home for an episode.

Technically he was in Al's body wasn't he?

Tighclops
Jan 23, 2008

Unable to deal with it


Grimey Drawer

MisterBibs posted:

That was the original ending to Quantum Leap, no joke. Sam was missing (or something), and the Bartender/God from the last episode told Al that he can join Sam, but things would be different. The last scene makes it clear that Sam and Al are now leaping into the future, and both are going to be visible.

Sounds like the same rear end in a top hat god that ran the BSGverse

8one6
May 20, 2012

When in doubt, err on the side of Awesome!

Iron Crowned posted:

Technically he was in Al's body wasn't he?

That was the episode he lept into AL. That's the one where Sam hosed up the "putting right" and temporarily erased AL from existence, replacing him with some British guy for like 10 minutes.

Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010
College Slice
There was another one where they switched places. Al jumped into a soldier just back from WWII whose wife was cheating on him, and Sam managed to get back to the present and spend time with his wife.

DaveKap
Feb 5, 2006

Pickle: Inspected.



cheetah7071 posted:

if you're horny watch porn and if you want star trek watch something good

there is no combination of horniness and trekiness that makes star trek enterprise the right choice
I can't even joke-post in The Orville thread now?

Edit: That said, on the subject of Star Trek and Sex, William Shatner did star in an episode of Perversions of Science for HBO which had Kevin Pollack loving an android.

DaveKap fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Dec 19, 2017

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

8one6 posted:

That was the episode he lept into AL. That's the one where Sam hosed up the "putting right" and temporarily erased AL from existence, replacing him with some British guy for like 10 minutes.

That was the episode that had a character named Commander Riker, wasn't it?

e: Yes

Powered Descent fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Dec 19, 2017

Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017

cheetah7071 posted:

if you're horny watch porn and if you want star trek watch something good

there is no combination of horniness and trekiness that makes star trek enterprise the right choice

As always, DS9 is the correct choice.

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice

DaveKap posted:

I can't even joke-post in The Orville thread now?

Edit: That said, on the subject of Star Trek and Sex, William Shatner did star in an episode of Perversions of Science for HBO which had Kevin Pollack loving an android.

I don't want to risk anybody treating your post seriously and thinking Star Trek Enterprise is a good choice of shows to watch while horny

DaveKap
Feb 5, 2006

Pickle: Inspected.



cheetah7071 posted:

I don't want to risk anybody treating your post seriously and thinking Star Trek Enterprise is a good choice of shows to watch while horny
Fair enough!

Aleph Null
Jun 10, 2008

You look very stressed
Tortured By Flan

cheetah7071 posted:

I don't want to risk anybody treating your post seriously and thinking Star Trek Enterprise is a good choice of shows to watch while horny

Phlox got that tongue, though.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


I like when Trip goes to Phlox and was like "Hey I don't know how to tell you this but your wife kept trying to gently caress me all last week"

And Phlox was like "Well you probably should have hosed her then! She's really good at it!"

3 DONG HORSE
May 22, 2008

I'd like to thank Satan for everything he's done for this organization

Tighclops posted:

Sounds like the same rear end in a top hat god that ran the BSGverse

poo poo, can Q be canon in BSG? It would explain sooooooo much.

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

Aleph Null posted:

Sam did leap "in the flesh" sort of when he went back and told Al's wife that he was still alive. Or am I mis-remembering?

That was the coda to the final episode, since Al being monogamous would've changed his character completely and potentially kept him away from the Quantum Leap project.

DoggPickle
Jan 16, 2004

LAFFO
I know that I got a lot of poo poo for my post about "not knowing what to make of this goddamn show". I can make up my own mind. I have my own thoughts and conclusions - you dicks :downs:

I just don't know a single other person in real life who I can bounce my thoughts off of in regards to this show, because NOBODY watches it. (and the vast majority of my friends are nerds or nerd-adjacent). So I was naturally curious about what other people are thinking.

I am still in turns happy, confused, irritated, disappointed, and then hopeful again. It's a weird feeling for such an expensive TV show. I don't particularly LIKE Seth Mcfarland, though I find him funniest in things like "A million ways to die in the west" where he plays the straight man against a ton of absurdity. I have a weird and admittedly overlove of Norm McDonald. There is just something about his voice when he does absolute sarcasm that makes me laugh every time, like Chevy Chase going out of control in a wd-40'd sled in National Lampoon's Christmas. It's stupid. You know it's stupid. But it's still funny, like people falling down an escalator is still funny the 10th time.

I too hope that this show is on for 10 years. I want to see how it works itself out. It really is a confused hybrid where it can't figure out what it's doing. It's not FUNNY funny. It's not exactly TOPICAL. The guest stars are a pretty awesome mix of people that you're pretty sure are doing this for a favor, which is fun in itself. The "romance/friendmance "between the two leads is a real low-spot, unfortunately, because they have literally zero chemistry. It's not really science smart or finding any new territory. I'll just wait and see what happens as it hopefully evolves.

3 DONG HORSE
May 22, 2008

I'd like to thank Satan for everything he's done for this organization

Don't get your hopes up. The showrunners enjoy the freedom of not being constrained by genre. You gotta look at it as a collection of short stories with different themes and not "sitcom" or "drama".

But that's why I love it!

MisterBibs
Jul 17, 2010

dolla dolla
bill y'all
Fun Shoe

Aleph Null posted:

Sam did leap "in the flesh" sort of when he went back and told Al's wife that he was still alive. Or am I mis-remembering?

... yeah, that happened in the actual ending they filmed. The original ending had what I said: Sam was lost, Al lept to try and find Sam. He winds up in the Finale Bar and after talking to the Bartender/God/Whatever about that's going on, he turns his head to find he's in a spacer bar, as some spacer lady, being hit on by some dirty space miner.

e: there's also another alternate ending floating around online that's basically the one that airs; a picture of Al leaps (:wtc:) into a picture of him, his wife, and all of his daughters. I want to say that one was supposed to be used, and the one we got was rushed (thus the misspelling in the dude's name).

MisterBibs fucked around with this message at 03:25 on Dec 20, 2017

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


DoggPickle posted:

I too hope that this show is on for 10 years. I want to see how it works itself out. It really is a confused hybrid where it can't figure out what it's doing. It's not FUNNY funny. It's not exactly TOPICAL. The guest stars are a pretty awesome mix of people that you're pretty sure are doing this for a favor, which is fun in itself. The "romance/friendmance "between the two leads is a real low-spot, unfortunately, because they have literally zero chemistry. It's not really science smart or finding any new territory. I'll just wait and see what happens as it hopefully evolves.

it knows what it's doing: a bunch of different stuff. that's on purpose! if you watch the show with that frame of mind, it's a lot better than sitting there thinking "man, this show isn't any one thing, i guess the creators just don't know what they want it to be"

it's kind of science smart, too. the orville has so far fudged a lot less of the tech talk than star trek generally did

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




3 DONG HORSE posted:

Don't get your hopes up. The showrunners enjoy the freedom of not being constrained by genre. You gotta look at it as a collection of short stories with different themes and not "sitcom" or "drama".

But that's why I love it!

It's true ! I sit down and watch an episode and I don't know what it's going to be about, or even what tone it's going to take. the plot gets introduced, and it's never played out like I expected. If they can keep this up, season 2 should be a hell of a ride.

DoggPickle
Jan 16, 2004

LAFFO
I really really want to like it. I'm not trying to be a downer, but the editing and the quips with each other could stand some work. The individual characters are starting to get some traction and they are all pretty lovable.

Still, the pacing and story-work need a bit of something better. It needs to be more fully cooked, (it's like a slightly pink chicken breast) and I will try to watch it with an open mind and just be happy that some funny people with good intentions have been allowed to make a show. Which is WAY better than cool people not being able to make a show in the first place.

I truly mean this in the best possible way, not sarcasm.

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evilmiera
Dec 14, 2009

Status: Ravenously Rambunctious

DoggPickle posted:

I really really want to like it. I'm not trying to be a downer, but the editing and the quips with each other could stand some work. The individual characters are starting to get some traction and they are all pretty lovable.

Still, the pacing and story-work need a bit of something better. It needs to be more fully cooked, (it's like a slightly pink chicken breast) and I will try to watch it with an open mind and just be happy that some funny people with good intentions have been allowed to make a show. Which is WAY better than cool people not being able to make a show in the first place.

I truly mean this in the best possible way, not sarcasm.

It's alright. We can watch coming seasons and see where it goes, together. :unsmith:

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