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Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me




are we hitting peak blogception here or can we go deeper

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Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





A real thing that a real human wrote

e: on second thought, which one of you is that

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The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

Mne nravitsya posted:

God Dammit! I took 2 Viagra for this!

Well, I guess I'll glitch my way back into bed and go into a T-pose until tomorrow.

Stay hard! I mean frosty. Stay frosty!

Mne nravitsya
Jul 14, 2017

The longer they delay, the closer Bethesda’s: Starfield gets to their big announce........

Ursine Catastrophe
Nov 9, 2009

It's a lovely morning in the void and you are a horrible lady-in-waiting.



don't ask how i know

Dinosaur Gum

Beet Wagon posted:

A real thing that a real human wrote

e: on second thought, which one of you is that



there's a limit, that's absolutely a goon

monkeytek
Jun 8, 2010

It wasn't an ELE that wiped out the backer funds. It was Tristan Timothy Taylor.

This guy gets it:


tokyocityblues new user/low karma [score hidden] a minute ago

Ignoring the fact that pulling out a cake might ruin it while being more transparent about the state of things you've claimed are apples and oranges...
Yea, i'd consider pulling the cake out of the oven if it was a crowdfunded cake and many of the ingredients weren't mine... and multiple people were concerned because i kept reaching into the oven anyway to add extra toppings and berries to the top of the cake... and someone kept yelling at me to just bake the drat cake.

Strangler 42
Jan 8, 2007

SHAVE IT ALL OFF
ALL OF IT
No, dammit! Don't use that build, use the Lumberyard build! Don't ask why, just loving do it! I don't care if it's not ready yet, just patch what you can right now! Push the stream back if you have to, just get it done! And if any lawyers call, tell them I'm not in today!

One in the Bum
Apr 25, 2014

Hair Elf
I have a super secret source inside cig and he/she just txt'd me that crobbits was insisting on playing 3.0 live on the stream because Derek did his live stream of UC or whatever and Chris thinks he needs to 1-up Derek. Everyone told him he was loving insane and walked out, thus the delay.

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen

Beet Wagon posted:

A real thing that a real human wrote

e: on second thought, which one of you is that



:psyduck:

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

SomethingJones posted:

gently caress me, FDev can stroke out a livestream at a week's notice using the live game, a dev build, whatever - and pull it off every single time without fuss.

CIG can't livestream a loving render

And you just discovered the problem. :)

If they had a game, just playing it would be good.

But they have a highly doctored cutscene. It takes lots of people and kajiggering to make a cutscene look good.

Making a cutscene look like somebody is actually playing a game is also super hard. Harder than it would be to just play the game. The only niggle there is you need a game.

ModernSociety
Jul 12, 2017

It turns out the greatest gift, was nothing at all....

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





Ursine Catastrophe posted:

there's a limit, that's absolutely a goon

Correct, it just took my brain a couple extra minutes to fire off the IFF tag cause I was laughing so hard.

Whoever that is, you own.

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

Toops posted:

LMAO what the gently caress



I have to ask... is this the new version of their 3 year old render, or is this a photoshop somebody made? Because it is unironically creepy. :ohdear:

Nicholas
Mar 7, 2001

Were those not fine days, when we drank of clear honey, and spoke in calm tones of our love for the stuff?
ign readers are going absolutely bonkers over this too


monkeytek
Jun 8, 2010

It wasn't an ELE that wiped out the backer funds. It was Tristan Timothy Taylor.

hot balls man no homo posted:

Mission 1: Escape from the wankpod

*Gets out of bed*
*walks to door*

Mission accomplished!

Missed:
*Clips through floor*
*Dies in space*
YOU WIN CONGRATS

D_Smart
May 11, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
College Slice

Dusty Lens posted:

Hey comon, Derek is as frustrated as all of us that he has to wait until tomorrow to find out what his big scoop is.

:perfect:

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XK
Jul 9, 2001

Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube

big nipples big life posted:

A publisher probably would have wanted the demo reel completed and on their desk last week.

Just saying.

Last month to 6 weeks ago.

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen

Krycek posted:

I have a super secret source inside cig and he/she just txt'd me that crobbits was insisting on playing 3.0 live on the stream because Derek did his live stream of UC or whatever and Chris thinks he needs to 1-up Derek. Everyone told him he was loving insane and walked out, thus the delay.

My uncle who works at CIG said that Dr. Smart and Chris Roberts were in the closet making babies and he saw one of the babies and the baby looked at him

Toops
Nov 5, 2015

-find mood stabilizers
-also,

big nipples big life posted:

He's made tons of good games. Just the whole "Is it fun? *waves hand, sparkles everywhere* Let's go see" is like a Disney movie.

I know you're joking around but I'm in a rather pedantic and condescending mood, so forgive me: I see it more as a leader whose every decision, every action is moving towards one goal: building video game that will be considered fun by the people who play it. How do you do that? By creating an environment where working code is built as often as possible to provide gameplay feedback, and that feedback drives your development iterations. The technical poo poo doesn't matter as an end in itself. "- moons" is not progress unless it yields fun, playable content that feels good. Now, contrast that with CIG. They roll out some shiny bullshot trailer of a planetary landing, with no grounding in anything playable or real, and in Chris's mind, that's literally Mission Accomplished. Meanwhile, 11 months later when you finally get a build, you just noclip down to a wet towel draped over a sphere for 16 minutes at 8.3 FPS, and when you get there, there's loving nothing to do.

Strangler 42
Jan 8, 2007

SHAVE IT ALL OFF
ALL OF IT

ModernSociety posted:

It turns out the greatest gift, was nothing at all....

Star Citizen was never a game, it was a feeling inside all of us...

Spiderdrake
May 12, 2001



big nipples big life posted:

A publisher probably would have wanted the demo reel completed and on their desk last week.
I mean I always thought Tim Schafer demonstrated that many game developers do, in fact, benefit from a publisher (the guy got dunked on by Bobby Kotick of all things) but CIG is like a mile high altar with great burning statues and incense that smells oddly like farts to the reality of AAA publishers and how important they are.

Then again Valve has kinda proven that too. No games! Only a storefront and microtransactions! Also, bad hardware!

Virtual Captain
Feb 20, 2017

Archive Priest of the Stimperial Order

Star Citizen Good, in all things forevermore. Amen.
:pray:
I was too frosty and gave CIG blue balls. Sorry all. :(

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

Toops posted:

I know you're joking around but I'm in a rather pedantic and condescending mood, so forgive me: I see it more as a leader whose every decision, every action is moving towards one goal: building video game that will be considered fun by the people who play it. How do you do that? By creating an environment where working code is built as often as possible to provide gameplay feedback, and that feedback drives your development iterations. The technical poo poo doesn't matter as an end in itself. "- moons" is not progress unless it yields fun, playable content that feels good. Now, contrast that with CIG. They roll out some shiny bullshot trailer of a planetary landing, with no grounding in anything playable or real, and in Chris's mind, that's literally Mission Accomplished. Meanwhile, 11 months later when you finally get a build, you just noclip down to a wet towel draped over a sphere for 16 minutes at 8.3 FPS, and when you get there, there's loving nothing to do.

I'm not, I loved the story and the picture that it paints of him. I see Sid as a whimsical kind of guy and the story just fits that perception perfectly.

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

XK posted:

Yes, it should've been locked down days or weeks ago. We all know this.

The 24 hours is just buying time. Who knows what's going to happen tomorrow. I'm anticipating no holiday stream, sorry everybody, we'll have a video out in January.

We're way beyond the December 16th date for go nogo. You're into network and code moratorium time at the big corps.

I'm now posting in my own time.

D_Smart
May 11, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
College Slice

A Neurotic Corncob posted:

true story; after Derek posted his blog today one of the r/scleaks people DMed me asking how Derek correctly reported the name, content, and sequence of the specific level in SQ42 that he mentioned.

Those rear end clowns (Hater115) keep sending me poo poo on Lockbin. Sometimes I just read and delete; other times I indulge in lulz.

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Daztek
Jun 2, 2006



From reddit

D_Smart
May 11, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
College Slice

Sarsapariller posted:

So, to summarize:
  • The cutscene they've showed is... a cutscene
  • It is from the game but it is edited and also it is fake.
  • It is from Chapter 5 and is part of a tutorial- this is definitely a leak and not simply watching the video to see the part where the player opts to skip the tutorial
  • They go to a damaged Starfarer (the only mission in the PTU that I've seen anyone do). Or maybe they don't do that.
  • They will announce that SQ 42 is going to be finished next year, as they have done for every year since 2014. Or maybe they won't.
  • On the live stream they will show a combat mission, or talking to NPC's.

What about this do you think they could possibly change on 24 hour's notice?

No clue. But you would think that they would, you know, put all that stuff in the bulletin newsletter. So clearly, regardless of content or context, THEY think that whatever it is they are showing, is worth hiding until they show it

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Ursine Catastrophe
Nov 9, 2009

It's a lovely morning in the void and you are a horrible lady-in-waiting.



don't ask how i know

Dinosaur Gum

Spiderdrake posted:

I mean I always thought Tim Schafer demonstrated that many game developers do, in fact, benefit from a publisher (the guy got dunked on by Bobby Kotick of all things) but CIG is like a mile high altar with great burning statues and incense that smells oddly like farts to the reality of AAA publishers and how important they are.

Then again Valve has kinda proven that too. No games! Only a storefront and microtransactions! Also, bad hardware!

Yeah publishers are project managers, effectively: You can have good ones, and you can have bad ones, and sometimes having a bad one is worse than not having one at all, but that's more a commentary on "why good ones are important" and not "why it's useless to have one"

Ursine Catastrophe
Nov 9, 2009

It's a lovely morning in the void and you are a horrible lady-in-waiting.



don't ask how i know

Dinosaur Gum

Daztek posted:

From reddit



holys hit

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

Ursine Catastrophe posted:

there's a limit, that's absolutely a goon

I do have to say that this has been a solid $50 purchase for me. I'm not getting a game, but the tsunami of tears will be totally worth it.

Zakutambah
Jan 17, 2007

#include <Mastodon.h>
#include <Pterodactyl.h>
#include <Triceratops.h>
#include <SaberToothed_Tiger.h>
#include <Tyrannosaurus.h>

void megazordSequence();
College Slice

Sickening posted:



Womp womp.

Captain_Richard took a unpaid day off work to do this stream btw.

Faaaaaaaaart

Keep on doing what you're doing, CIG.

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

Toops posted:

I know you're joking around but I'm in a rather pedantic and condescending mood, so forgive me: I see it more as a leader whose every decision, every action is moving towards one goal: building video game that will be considered fun by the people who play it. How do you do that? By creating an environment where working code is built as often as possible to provide gameplay feedback, and that feedback drives your development iterations. The technical poo poo doesn't matter as an end in itself. "- moons" is not progress unless it yields fun, playable content that feels good. Now, contrast that with CIG. They roll out some shiny bullshot trailer of a planetary landing, with no grounding in anything playable or real, and in Chris's mind, that's literally Mission Accomplished. Meanwhile, 11 months later when you finally get a build, you just noclip down to a wet towel draped over a sphere for 16 minutes at 8.3 FPS, and when you get there, there's loving nothing to do.

I think by now it's common knowledge that all Chris wanted to do was get him and his wife in a studio with actual actors to pretend to direct them. It should have been glaringly obvious when that was the very first thing he loving did, when it should have been the very last. "Making a video game" was just the excuse - the story he told people that made getting and paying all these actors possible. The game was an afterthought - something he'd Crobble together like spider-threaded wisps of pure poo poo floating through the breeze, getting caught in the cultists' throats, giving them a bad cough and a case of rear end-breath, for which they are very thankful.

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

Toops posted:

Yeah I’m getting that distinct “uh oh, I’m being wrong on the internet and digging in again” feeling, so I concede.

My thought process goes like this: If I were running a game studio, and that’s the model my artists turned out, I’d be like “Looks good, great job! Ok where are with <long list of gameplay-focused milestones>? How’s the gameplay feel? Is it fun? How can we make it more fun?”

When I worked in gaming, pre-alpha conversations were usually centered around the latest playable build, how it felt, gameplay systems, and what mechanically needed to change in order to make it more fun. The graphics were important, but it just wasn’t the primary focus.

Here’s a fun anecdote. A good friend of mine used to be a senior designer at MicroProse and worked closely with Sid Meier. They had a quarterly design review conference, and rented out a big convention center for it. Why? Was it to parade around giving bullshot presos, clink cocktails and pat each other on the back? Nope. They needed the space to fit as many friends, family, and fans as possible to actually play the game and get their feedback.

Meier came up to my friend, asked him how the last 2 months went. He told Sid all about the technical achievements, milestones, action items, tech challenges, etc. All the while Sid was drifting off, clearly uninterested. When he stopped talking, Sid said “Ok, fine. But is it fun?” My friend paused, hemmed, hawed, and didn’t really know how to answer. Sid stopped him, motioned to the giant showroom where all people were sat at computers, playing the game, and said, “Come on. Let’s go find out.”

One thing I’ll never do is try to fight you about being wrong. You are super smart and have a huge amount of game development experience that I’ll never ever compare to. :)

You are also a great poster and I have always loved reading your thoughts and insights. Keep on doing what you’re doing!

And yeah, it can go either way. It doesn’t need to look like Hamill. But then why go to the lengths they’ve gone through? I don’t know. I’m also not a big wig Hollywood director driving a Porsche.

I think everybody wants CIG to focus on gameplay over looks, but they don’t. And when they go to such huge strides to look great, even going so far as to blatantly lie to people about what things look like... when you see the real deal and it’s hilariously off target... what can you say?

It’s all good. I’m pretty sure there will never be a game product to ever come from this, so this may be as close as we ever get to seeing it for real.

Mangoose
Dec 11, 2007

Come out with your pants down!
loving CIG, I've had the worst case of blueballs since their bullshit, boring, playing-it-safe anniversary stream and these assholes delay the holiday one.

It's extra bad because goons turned out in force and the thread is moving at the speed of sound. It's like everyone turned up for a concert a couple of hours early to drink beer and have fun but then the band didn't show up, so we're just hanging around talking poo poo while finishing our alcohol.

It's not even 100% a metaphor, I've literally been drinking alcohol since the kids fell asleep in anticipation of this disaster.

OH and by the way... a loving TANK? Like their mountain of engineering debt wasn't high enough, now they have to include ground combat with gameplay value AND make it so there's situations where deploying a god drat tank is the strategically sound decision. Do these people know anything at all about tank warfare? I mean, it's not just a beach buggy with a giant cannon you send out for shits and giggles. Also, you have literal destroyers and carriers and poo poo that can, at will, enter atmosphere of seemingly any planetoid. Why the gently caress would you need to deploy slow, ground-bound artillery units? What the gently caress could they offer a combat situation that a loving corvette with some kickass space gun couldn't?

Stand by for the loving Orbital Bombardment pledge incentive rendering literally everything planetside obsolete in their lovely imaginary poo poo stupid poop game

loving melting down over stream delay, sorry

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

I half feel like I inadvertently scooped the scoop. :3

Toops
Nov 5, 2015

-find mood stabilizers
-also,

The Titanic posted:

I have to ask... is this the new version of their 3 year old render, or is this a photoshop somebody made? Because it is unironically creepy. :ohdear:

The source is daz3d.com. I'm not really too sure what the deal is with daz3d, but it immediately triggers my "NSFW CLOSE TAB ABORT" reflex.

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

Mangoose posted:

loving melting down over stream delay, sorry

So, we looking at a truck next?

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

Hav posted:

So, we looking at a truck next?

More seriously, Mechs. They're going to half arse mechs at some point, yeah?

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

Sickening posted:



Womp womp.

Captain_Richard took a unpaid day off work to do this stream btw.

Hi Boss, yeah sorry I can't come into work today or tomorrow, I uhh have to steam myself to 50 people, talking about a video game

Yeah, that's the one, remember I asked you to automatically debit 50% of my pay to them?

Ok thanks see ya , yeah I will go gently caress myself thanks!!! *makes a zany face*

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Nicholas
Mar 7, 2001

Were those not fine days, when we drank of clear honey, and spoke in calm tones of our love for the stuff?

Toops posted:

The source is daz3d.com. I'm not really too sure what the deal is with daz3d, but it immediately triggers my "NSFW CLOSE TAB ABORT" reflex.

theres a lot of photoshop brushes on that image.

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