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peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

XK posted:

Sorry I'm late. I had a car accident.

You had a car accident?!

No, I was only being metaphorical. Anyway, I can't stay long, I have to get back to my water main break.

You have a water main break?

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SuperDepressing
Feb 19, 2011

G0RF posted:

File Under: “Keep doing what you’re doing!”




The question isn’t “is this fake or not?” because :lol::lol::lol: but rather, is this the work of MetaTroll or of The World’s Greatest HR Director Since She Was a Little Girl!”

Sandi, if you or yours wrote this and not some chaotic neutral Goon reverse inverse trolling you in the Meta,, some friendly advice... This review reads as self-parody, absolute fake and as the backpatting of Management by Management in the midst of absolute crisis.

Standout lines: ”They provide a great healthcare service... They are always looking for ways to show their appreciation to the employees. And they are some of the most understanding people when it comes to work/life balance.”

Get outta here with that bullcrap. You “appreciate” your employees with garbage food and may have helped send one faithful employee to a near death experience that was both [url=https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3748466&pagenumber=2055&perpage=40#post456543664]predicted and preventable.
You’ve worked employees to the bone for years chasing the next buck while pretending you’ve been building a game for five years.

If this is a panicked attempt to offset the sharp and highly specific critiques recently offered by other employees, you’re going to have to step up your writing game. As it stands, this review makes you look worse not better and anyone reading Glassdoor for insights into your culture will see this as further indictment not endorsement.

“But they try their best under circumstances that other companies would collapse under.” — IP Lawsuits, Refund Cascades, terrible self-inflicted PR wounds and the mainstreaming of “it’s a scam!” narratives brought on by one too many cash grabs are circumstances created by Management, dumbass. So ”keep up the good work!” Who knows, maybe you just might bring about the collapse yet.

(If author is Goon then :sandance::pgabz:)

I got curious and decided to dig into the other reviews and well


(for people without an account)

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen

kalensc posted:

Is that a minor typo which occurred during a goon transcription of some audio, or did the original scriptwriter try to write some "witty repartee" without realizing they misspelled court martial?

It's from the pastebin text which is thousands of lines so I'm assuming Chris doesn't know how to spell.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

Sarsapariller posted:

It's from the pastebin text which is thousands of lines so I'm assuming Chris doesn't know how to spell.

He also doesn't know how to make games.
This is NOT a metaphor

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

Wait so Lando saying they had a water main break and a car accident he was just being metaphorical?

I'm so confused, because it certainly looked like his tweets were referencing real life events that occurred to delay their next sale stream

XK
Jul 9, 2001

Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube

peter gabriel posted:

You have a water main break?



I'm just trying to share the general essence of things going wrong that can't be prepared for. Stop taking everything so literally.

Anyway, got to go, my wife was murdered.

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen

Star Citizen: A blog ate my homework

Dooguk
Oct 11, 2016

Pillbug

Blue On Blue posted:

Wait so Lando saying they had a water main break and a car accident he was just being metaphorical?

I'm so confused, because it certainly looked like his tweets were referencing real life events that occurred to delay their next sale stream

Water mains burst guys.

XK
Jul 9, 2001

Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube

The broken wrists were also metaphorical.

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen

quote:

Didn't see the live stream pop yet so I checked Reddit and Jesus... the number of threads complaining about "Mah geimez tho!"

I'm sorry some of you made plans around a date that CIG set. You must be new here. It does suck that you have to wait another day for the stream. poo poo happens. If you took a day off work, you should have known the risk that your day might not pan out like you thought. Sorry your friends are poking fun at you because you're a fanboi. Sorry your game isn't ready yet. Have some composure people. I'm seeing the same thing with Star Wars fans. Sorry your movie didn't copy/paste your fan theory into their script. The director doesn't hold your hand in any of his past movies.. he's not going to tell his story in ELI5 format, sorry? Episode 8 sets up the story for an incredible 9th and final episode. It's a difficult thing to do.. everyone wants to tell the punchline, and they pulled it off magnificently. You'll know how much you like episode 8 when episode 9 drops and you splurge your bluebantha milk balls all over the silver screen.

Much like Star Wars fans, Star Citizen fans are pretty demanding.. but CIG has ONE shot to really make an impression here (not 8). If S42 is bad then people will assume SC will be worse and their fairly linear funding method will dry up. CIG knows this and must have a highly polished single player product. Forget the PU, forget 3.0, forget your precious 60 FPS and forget EVERYTHING else.. if S42 isn't compelling and inspiring, then whatever else that comes afterwards will just be an update to "that one game that sucked."

Again, CIG knows what's at stake here and they're excited to share with us what they've been working on. Wishing we as a community had a little more composure before jumping down their throats I guess is way too much to ask?

TLDR: INB4 all the future FAITH RESTORED threads that will inevitably pop up tomorrow praising CIG's livestream and gameplay demos.

It's becoming really hard to distinguish posts from parodies.

Toops
Nov 5, 2015

-find mood stabilizers
-also,

The Titanic posted:

Oh no, they discovered me, the dangerous, severely mentally ill psychopath who has infiltrated CIG and has done her best to ensure that their holiday special has been delayed exactly 24 hours for reasons. Obviously crazy, insane reasons, but I did it all for the lulz. Brb, tending to my hacking and DDoS attacks.

Hey I just logged into one of the SC_DDOS_BotNet Solaris boxes and tailed the logs... seeing a lot of "automountd[1]: server hostname responding" error messages. Can someone go check the server racks?

UNCUT PHILISTINE
Jul 27, 2006

Maybe he was just making allusions to an upcoming space yacht sale

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?
Doctor : I'm afraid little billybob was killed crossing the road,he was hit by a car.

Family : oh nooooo!

Doctor : yes a car made of marshmallows,being driven by howard from the halifax ads.....

Family : oh you're being metaphorical,i understand.

Doctor : no your son is dead.

fin.

Golli
Jan 5, 2013



To outfox the goons, they are gonna send an email to the SQ42 newsletter subscribers with the new supersecret Pornhub stream address for tomorrow's broadcast.

Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao

Sarsapariller posted:

Star Citizen: A blog ate my homework

TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House
Grimey Drawer
I really disliked it when I showed up to the theater to watch TLJ and had like 3 beers at 9am and then the ushers walked out and said the movie is delayed until 2019

it's okay, I believe live in rain johnson or whatever his dumb hippy name is

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
:saddowns: Stream delayed folks, Ben shat his pants
:v: Is this a metaphor?
:saddowns: Nope

Golli
Jan 5, 2013



peter gabriel posted:

:saddowns: Stream delayed folks, Ben shat his pants
:v: Is this a metaphor?
:saddowns: Nope

The fumes set off the sprinkler system.

XK
Jul 9, 2001

Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube

Sarsapariller posted:

It's becoming really hard to distinguish posts from parodies.

I'm seeing tons of arguments that people should've known what to expect, and that what CIG is trying to do is hard, so people were dumb to rely on CIG doing the stream today.

They're basically making the argument that nobody should expect CIG to be able to make a game either.

So, don't be stupid enough to expect CIG to do hard things, get a refund instead of relying on their word?

Sandweed
Sep 7, 2006

All your friends are me.

Toops posted:

Hey I just logged into one of the SC_DDOS_BotNet Solaris boxes and tailed the logs... seeing a lot of "automountd[1]: server hostname responding" error messages. Can someone go check the server racks?

I tried to get into the server room but I think there has been a water main break.

Dementropy
Aug 23, 2010



MedicineHut
Feb 25, 2016


"Stop with the amateurism"
followed by "I know you have amazing rock solid things to show tomorrow"



Clownfiesta all the way

MedicineHut fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Dec 22, 2017

TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House
Grimey Drawer
like why you even delete the tweets unless you realized you 100% hosed up lol

TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House
Grimey Drawer
the game is released, metaphorically

SomethingJones
Mar 6, 2016

<3

Blue On Blue posted:

Wait so Lando saying they had a water main break and a car accident he was just being metaphorical?

I'm so confused, because it certainly looked like his tweets were referencing real life events that occurred to delay their next sale stream

Jared knows perfectly well they're all idiots, he hosed up and tweeted the lame excuses and now he's passing it off that it was all 'metaphorical'

Omniblivion
Oct 17, 2012
this would be the perfect time to do some sort of prank on the santa monica office

like park a food truck outside of their office with a "free food for CIG staffers" sign

but make CR and what's her face pay

Golli
Jan 5, 2013



SomethingJones posted:

Jared knows perfectly well they're all idiots, he hosed up and tweeted the lame excuses and now he's passing it off that it was all 'metaphorical'

By deleting the tweets, he can reshape the narrative more easily.

It becomes a battle of recollections, and any hard evidence (screenshots) become 'shops.

XK
Jul 9, 2001

Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube


:eyepop:

They're losing Gremlich? Holy poo poo.

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

Golli posted:

By deleting the tweets, he can reshape the narrative more easily.

It becomes a battle of recollections, and any hard evidence (screenshots) become 'shops.

Imagine if CIG were a game development company, all they'd have to do is work on the game, and all of this superfluous deceptive bullshit would be entirely unnecessary.

Metaphorically speaking.

Dusty Lens
Jul 1, 2015

All Glory unto the Stimpire. Give up your arms and legs and embrace the beautiful agony of electricity that doubles in pain every second.

Was it a watermain or a carcrash I need to decide on a breaking news or braking news joke.

Dusty Lens
Jul 1, 2015

All Glory unto the Stimpire. Give up your arms and legs and embrace the beautiful agony of electricity that doubles in pain every second.

I'm the reddit poster saying CIG only has one chance to get it right in December of 2017

Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao
Who's up for a game of 'where's Archer'?










Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen


Star Citizen: you didn't verbally stutter, but your brain did

Doug Sisk
Sep 11, 2001

boviscopophobic posted:

ANALYSIS OF SMALL TRACKER MOVES

In view of the Crytek lawsuit and the possible imminent demise of the funding tracker, I'm presenting an analysis that I put off for quite a while. This post is the third in the (very infrequently updated) Theoretical Cetology series. Previous entries are here and here. I know many people believe the tracker is faked, but irrespective of that issue, one can still try to figure out what the tracker is actually telling us.

My initial motivation in looking at the funding tracker was to try to tie together the three F's (Fleet, Fans, and Funds) to get a better sense of who was buying what. The hourly scraped data maintained by Nehkara on Google Docs is not well suited to this, because so many transactions get lumped together per hour that it's difficult or impossible to tease out the individual contributions. Therefore I used scraped data with a 5 minute update rate, which strikes a balance between high update rate and not being rude. As it turned out, the three F's are updated on different schedules and possibly with differing time lags, so it remains impractical to do the dreamed-of joint analysis.

However, it turns out that the Funds data (i.e. the money counter) is updated in real time, or close enough to real time from the perspective of a 5-minute scrape. This tells us how much cash is going into the tracker at each 5 minute interval.

An excerpt from a typical day is shown below. The table shows the size of each tracker move in dollars, and the number of times a move of that size was observed.



A few interesting facts immediately jump out:
  • Many moves are even multiples of $5.
  • Some moves are not whole numbers. I am not sure how this happens; more on this later.
  • There are a decent number of very small moves, like $5 or $10.
  • $45 and $60 are by far the most common move size, probably due to their being starter packages. We also see spikes at combinations of $45 and $60, such as $90 and $105.

As the example of $105 illustrates, a tracker move may be composed of multiple smaller transactions. As long as the typical 5-minute interval does not contain "too many" transactions, we may be able to infer the individual transaction sizes, at least in a probabilistic sense.

The frequent $5 moves are particularly interesting because they are not likely to be composed of smaller transactions and because there isn't anything exciting on the store that costs $5. I believe that they are probably mostly CCU activity, possibly related to the grey market, but I welcome better explanations.

My assumption is that the tracker is honest in the sense that applied store credit is not shown as additional revenue. This would allow us to see transactions of all sizes (due to varying amounts of store credit being applied) even if the store has no item at a particular price.

SELECTING THE DATA SET

To keep from having too many transactions thus making the data too hard to analyze, I used a crude proxy for non-sale days by taking all days with daily funding total < $60K. This gives a total of 116,111 data points from "quiet" or "typical" days.

The method I will apply below relies heavily on the assumption that tracker moves are round numbers, i.e., multiples of $5. Thus, data points that do not fit this assumption must be excluded, leaving 108,621 data points remaining (which represents a loss of 6.5% of the data). Interestingly, non-round tracker moves tend to arrive bunched together. The below plot shows the percentage of non-round moves in a rolling temporal window, restricted to data points from quiet days.



Part of the cause may be temporally limited availability of items, such as the Squadron 42 Military Cap, that aren't multiples of $5. As for the fractional dollar amounts, the only hypothesis I can come up with is if an amount of store credit is somehow acquired untaxed but then has VAT taken out of it later. Partially defraying the cost of an item with the resulting store credit could give rise to strange transaction sizes.

ESTIMATING TRANSACTION RATES

To account for the effect of multiple transactions, I formulated a probability model for the data as a price-weighted sum of independent Poisson random variables. Going to the store and clicking on "Extras" shows CCUs valued at every multiple of $5 up to about $300, so I set the maximum allowable transaction size to $300. I then estimated the parameters of the model using maximum likelihood. The round transactions assumption is required to make the fitting process tractable; we can apply a crude correction for the exclusion of the non-round transactions afterward.

Below we show the raw histogram of tracker moves.



The result of the fitting process is an average transaction rate for each transaction size, i.e., the average number of transactions of each size, per hour.



The dominant effect is the spikes at $45 and $60, reaching 4.2 and 5.0 transactions/hour, respectively. If we assume that every one of these sales is a starter game package, and that every game package is sold to a new customer, this means 9.2 commandos are buying into Star Citizen per hour outside of special events, or about 80,000 commandos per year. By contrast, the "fans" number has increased by 237,325 so far in 2017, with no major recruiting events to speak of.

There is about 1 transaction per hour for every "small" transaction size below $45. Unless this is CCU activity, I'm not sure what it could represent. Are people buying $5 skins and UEC chits?

The estimated average daily revenue from starter packages is $11,700, versus an average daily revenue (for the quiet days used in this analysis) of roughly $39,500. Similarly, the average daily revenue from small transactions of $40 or less is $4000. The majority of funding, about $20K, comes from transactions that are $65 or larger.

The average daily total implied by our model is about $37K. Using a crude 7% correction for the excluded data points gives an average daily total of $39,800 which is fairly close to the true average of $39,500.

How literally should we interpret the fitted parameters? I think the inferred rate of starter packages, as well as the small transactions, is roughly accurate. As price increases from there, we should expect a general decline in the frequency of transactions, but not as steep a decline as the model implies. You can see an artifact of this where the model has boosted the rates of transactions near $300 to try to match the heavier tails of the actual data.

IS THE TRACKER TOO STABLE?

There are reasons to expect this model to underestimate the frequency of very large transactions, meaning that it will underestimate daily variability. That being said, the daily standard deviation of funding implied by the fitted model is $2,040, which implies that we would expect to see successive daily totals to be within about $5800 of each other 95% of the time.

A quick eyeballing suggests that the real data is indeed more variable than the model estimate. This is unsurprising both because there are dynamic influences on the store activity that we do not model, and because we would expect overdispersion even in the absence of such effects.

A better answer would involve looking at autocorrelation, but :effort:

This is too interesting to disappear on the last page. Have you looked at the non-round numbers in much detail? I wonder if they could be a result of the 'staff discount' that has been mentioned before that employees could use to then flip on the grey market. It would be particularly interesting if they happened more often during big sales events, as there could be some estimation done by assuming they were multiples of the big ticket item.

Dementropy
Aug 23, 2010




MilesK
Nov 5, 2015

The Titanic posted:

If I recall the daughter is Oldman’s character’s daughter, who happens to be Pusher.

Sq42 is pretty much The Sandi Movie where she is the center of everything, the player is a camera to this story playing out.

I could be wrong though because I sure as hell didn’t read the cat barf script.

Sandi's name is "Nayara Fell". She's the second best pilot in the 1-0-6. She'll be one of your wingmen. If Chris really just rewrote the Wing Commander movie, Sandi would most likely be Freddie Prinze Jr's love interest, Lt Cmdr Jeanette Deveraux.

All her lines:

[Lt Cmdr Nayara Fell]: "No sign of the OMC after they scattered into the Coil."
[Lt Cmdr Nayara Fell]: "We started poking around until Ruger took a hit from a homemade proximity mine. Felt suicidal to go further without knowing what we were walking into."

[Captain Thomas Wade]: "Ruger okay?"
[Lt Cmdr Nayara Fell]: "Fine. More shocked than anything."
[Captain Thomas Wade]: "Good. Let me know if you need anything while we finish up rescue ops."

[Lt Cmdr Nayara Fell]: "@Dlg_SC_ac_hitman_player_order_attack_my_target_0101"

[Captain Thomas Wade]: "Lieutenant, hello. I recognised your name when we got word of the Stanton survivors."
[Player]: "Sir?"
[Captain Thomas Wade]: "Admiral Bishop told me what you did aboard the Gauntlet. It's an honour."
[Captain Thomas Wade]: "This is Lt Commander Fell."
[Lt Cmdr Nayara Fell]: "Hey."
[Captain Thomas Wade]: "First Vega and now here. Can't decide if you've got the worst luck ever, or the best."
[Player]: "Lucky enough that you happened to be passing through."
[Lt Cmdr Nayara Fell]: "Luck didn't have anything to do with it."
[Captain Thomas Wade]: "The early warning systems leading into Virgil went down. We were looking to see if any Vanduul got through when we got your call."
[Lt Cmdr Nayara Fell]: "Which is what we should be doing right now instead of babysitting this place."

[Lt Cmdr Nayara Fell]: "Where's that put you, Weezy? Twentieth? Twenty-Fourth?"
[Lt Brian Wieters]: "Yeah, yeah, get it out while you can 'cause I'm gonna kick so much rear end today, the 42's are gonna be begging me to join."
[Lt Cmdr Nayara Fell]: "As what? Target practice?"
[Lt Brian Wieters]: "Ok. See you guys on the dance floor."

[Lt Cmdr Nayara Fell]: "I don't know where your ship is supposed to be, you should find the Chief, he'll sort you out."


[Lt Brian Wieters]: "Look maybe no one told you, OldMan, but this is the Krugeri. We're better than a battle group. We took out a frickin' Vanduul Kingship. If we can't blow up a few outlaws then something is seriously wrong."
[Lt Cmdr Nayara Fell]: "Big surprise there. Weezy's 'blow poo poo up' strategy."
[Lt Brian Wieters]: "Look, this guy has eriesium, right? You just want to let him get away?"
[Steve Colton]: "I want to see him dead, but we go in half-cocked, a lot of good men and weomen will be too."

Raskolnikov
Nov 25, 2003

Please Reddit Faithful, please keep backing this game. I'd love to play with you all in the 'verse.

Please. Star Citizen needs your help. Pledge today.

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."

intardnation posted:

what if they put up a jpeg in a fireplace with a fire burning for 2 hours like those christmas day lovely things.

Thinking about it, if they do that they will have literally devolved into the days of their very first stream back in 2012, when CIG put up a lamp at the camera and the streamers worshiped that.

...in retrospect, that was kinda prophetic. And quite frankly, I would not be surprised to see it work again. Although now they've been given so much more, haven't they? Moving .jpegs! Stars such as Mark Hamill (no matter how aged and misshapen)! To go from that back to worshiping random office appliances, as they did in the very beginning,...well...it just won't be the same kind of hit to feed their worshiping addiction!

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

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Raskolnikov
Nov 25, 2003

Look mom, I'm contributing to this thread!

edit: no hands; broken wrists.

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