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Das Doppelganger
Dec 22, 2012

Louisgod posted:

What also owns is this morning clicking on my 4th ever Snorunt and it being a shiny. They increase the odds of getting shinies or something?

Somebody has to catch them I guess. I haven't seen one nor has anybody I know. Just RNG man...roll with it.

-says the guy who caught a Shiny Magikarp within his first week of playing while his son has been at it 2 years and still doesn't have one.

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Willsun
Dec 9, 2006

I willed too hard again...

mastershakeman posted:

guys it's just a beta give niantic about five more years to figure this out before complaining

I'm reminded of this one neckbeard that gets driven around by his sister to raids and they constantly bicker at each other with stuff like "I KNOW! I'm TRYING to heal, GOD" and growls loudly at every unsuccessful throw at a legendary and curses in front of people with children.

I'm just reminded of this somehow. Right now.

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin
here's who's available

JesusSinfulHands
Oct 24, 2007
Sartre and Russell are my heroes
those awkward two boxes for Wurmple's evolutions though

Lotad seems to be extremely rare unless there is rain, when its spawn rate goes up a ton.

Relicanth seems to be exclusive to New Zealand of all places.

Pomplamoose
Jun 28, 2008

Irukandji Syndrome posted:


How does that translate to Johnny 5 Mewtwos bitching about his lost pass or whatever?

I know a guy with two mewtwos who recently complained that his low level alt account got a pass while his main one didn't.

Louisgod
Sep 25, 2003

Always Stupid
Bread Liar
Does Snorunt only have one evolution? It seems like the type that would have two but it doesn't look like it.

Prop Wash
Jun 12, 2010



Louisgod posted:

Does Snorunt only have one evolution? It seems like the type that would have two but it doesn't look like it.

It gets a second evo in 4th gen https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/478.shtml

Torchics and mudkips aplenty around here. Tons of other spawns, too. I probably shouldn't even have bothered with incense. Speaking of incense, has anyone noticed fewer spawns than before while using it? I used to get about a spawn a minute, but the rate seems to have greatly slowed down. I probably only saw 5 or 6 today.

Irukandji Syndrome
Dec 26, 2008
I'm really enjoying catching all the new Pokemon and filling out my pokedex. I'm even filling in the gaps in the first 2 gens with all the new weather effects, I caught a Lickitung which I had never even SEEN before. I hope I get a Wynaut soon, they're one of my faves :kimchi:

Panic Restaurant
Jul 19, 2006

:retrogames: :3: :retrogames:



Pork Pro

JesusSinfulHands posted:

Relicanth seems to be exclusive to New Zealand of all places.

Motherfucker! They better do an event at some point, Relicanth is my favorite Pokémon. :negative:

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

Irukandji Syndrome posted:

I'm really enjoying catching all the new Pokemon and filling out my pokedex.

I too am enjoying this game again after what feels like months of endless raids that I felt compelled to do for a legendary pokemon that I wouldn't use in 99.9% of situations. Going out of my way to chase silhouettes is great and even hatching eggs has a chance of something new instead of just annoying me with its animation.

Spheal and Snorunt are my favorite new ones so far

Irukandji Syndrome
Dec 26, 2008
Does evolving a pokemon reset your walking progress with it? That's a little weird and disappointing.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
:allears:
Did I do something wrong, or is the incubator you get from spinning pokestops from today 'till christmas only one use?

I've been very casual with the game, but i'm pretty sure incubators were 3-use, so this is essentially a single incubator chopped up. How nice of them.

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

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Toilet Rascal

ArmyOfMidgets posted:

:allears:
Did I do something wrong, or is the incubator you get from spinning pokestops from today 'till christmas only one use?

I've been very casual with the game, but i'm pretty sure incubators were 3-use, so this is essentially a single incubator chopped up. How nice of them.

Ones from stops are 1 use. They did this last year too.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?

seiferguy posted:

Ones from stops are 1 use. They did this last year too.

Well, at least it has precedent.

Irukandji Syndrome
Dec 26, 2008
Also, if your first pokestop of the day was before 1pm, you simply don't get the incubator. It doesn't give it to you. At least for today when it was introduced, dunno about tomorrow.

I didn't get it and other people on the pokego reddit are reporting they didn't, either.

Entropist
Dec 1, 2007
I'm very stupid.

Irukandji Syndrome posted:

Also, if your first pokestop of the day was before 1pm, you simply don't get the incubator. It doesn't give it to you. At least for today when it was introduced, dunno about tomorrow.

I didn't get it and other people on the pokego reddit are reporting they didn't, either.

This happened last year, there was an outrage and they gave everyone an extra one to apologize... Yet they don't seem to have fixed anything! :argh:
This especially sucks when you're in Europe - you'd have to not spin any stop until 10pm or 11pm in order to get the extra.

TheMaestroso
Nov 4, 2014

I must know your secrets.

Entropist posted:

This happened last year, there was an outrage and they gave everyone an extra one to apologize... Yet they don't seem to have fixed anything! :argh:
This especially sucks when you're in Europe - you'd have to not spin any stop until 10pm or 11pm in order to get the extra.

They announced ahead of time that the incubators would be available starting at 1pm PST. Not perfect, but there isn't exactly a neat way to make sure everyone gets it otherwise.

DizzyBum
Apr 16, 2007


There have been a shitload of Makuhitas and Gulpins spawning at the office today. I already almost have enough candy to evolve them both.

Also caught my first Ralts yesterday! Gardevoir is one of my faves, and it's gonna be really good for murdering Fighting-types. :3:

White Light
Dec 19, 2012

DizzyBum posted:

There have been a shitload of Makuhitas and Gulpins spawning at the office today. I already almost have enough candy to evolve them both.

Also caught my first Ralts yesterday! Gardevoir is one of my faves, and it's gonna be really good for murdering Fighting-types. :3:

I've seen people single-handedly solo Machamp raids with a maxed out Gardevoir, having a double fighting resistance pays off

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

TheMaestroso posted:

They announced ahead of time that the incubators would be available starting at 1pm PST. Not perfect, but there isn't exactly a neat way to make sure everyone gets it otherwise.

Make it part of your daily pokestop bonus?

Psychobabble!
Jun 22, 2010

Observing this filth unsettles me

Away all Goats posted:

Make it part of your daily pokestop bonus?

It is a part of your daily bonus, as long as you spun after the event started today, at 1pm pst. I get that it sucks if you spun too early or live somewhere besides the west coast but you're only missing out on one single use incubator, it's not a big deal :shrug:

In other news, did 3 legendary raids today and finally did an absol(why is this a level 4???). I ended up teaching an older lady the ring lock trick at raid 2(she whiffed almost every ball in the first one so I figured I'd help her out at the second raid). She still didn't catch it but she caught it at the 3rd and was so excited, yelling about how I was her favorite person for teaching her it :3: :3: :3:. Feels good man. 6/6 on groudon, bring on the space whale.

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

Psychobabble! posted:

It is a part of your daily bonus, as long as you spun after the event started today, at 1pm pst.

So it's a part of the daily bonus, except when its not. Gotcha

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
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Toilet Rascal
What's the ring lock trick?

SeXTcube
Jan 1, 2009

Away all Goats posted:

So it's a part of the daily bonus, except when its not. Gotcha
No, it's part of your daily spin bonus full stop

If you already received your daily bonus before they went live then you don't get it today, because you already received your daily bonus.

It's silly but it's not complicated.



seiferguy posted:

What's the ring lock trick?
If it's what I think it is:

The circle has to be a certain size to trigger an excellent throw and in general the smaller the circle the higher your catch rate. The circle only changes size while you are activating the poke ball AND the pokemon is able to be captured, that is to say not in an attack or jumping animation.

So if you hold down and let go on the ball you can see the circle will be the same size from when you let go to when you touch it again. The trick is to hold down on the ball until you get a small enough circle and then let go. Then, you wait for the pokemon to perform an attack/jump animation. During the animation you can touch the ball and charge up a curveball. If you throw the ball at the very end of the animation you can hit it right as the capture window opens back up with an excellent throw because the circle size hasn't changed.

Doing this trick allows you to both control the size of the ring and time your throw more easily. You're not in a panic to spin the ball and throw it when the circle gets small because the size is set and you have the attack animation time to wind up. With a bit of practice you should be able to always score at least a great throw on legendaries without worry of the ball being batted away.

SeXTcube fucked around with this message at 02:25 on Dec 23, 2017

Entropist
Dec 1, 2007
I'm very stupid.

TheMaestroso posted:

They announced ahead of time that the incubators would be available starting at 1pm PST. Not perfect, but there isn't exactly a neat way to make sure everyone gets it otherwise.
https://twitter.com/NianticHelp/status/944121556053008384?s=17
This implies that it would be your first spin after 1pm PST, not that it has to be a first spin of the day.

shyduck
Oct 3, 2003


excellent

White Light
Dec 19, 2012

That's a keeper :thumbsup:

kensei
Dec 27, 2007

He has come home, where he belongs. The Ancient Mariner returns to lead his first team to glory, forever and ever. Amen!


Entropist posted:

https://twitter.com/NianticHelp/status/944121556053008384?s=17
This implies that it would be your first spin after 1pm PST, not that it has to be a first spin of the day.

Nope, I accidentally did a spin with my plus before One PM and didn't get an incubator after.

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin
uh I thought great/excellent was from landing closer and closer to the right spot on the guy, and the circle was something else entirely that also boosts your chance

Chairman Mao
Apr 24, 2004

The Chinese Communist Party is the core of leadership of the whole Chinese people. Without this core, the cause of socialism cannot be victorious.

mastershakeman posted:

uh I thought great/excellent was from landing closer and closer to the right spot on the guy, and the circle was something else entirely that also boosts your chance

Nope!

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
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Toilet Rascal

shyduck posted:

excellent



I've got several 100% IV pokemon but only one 0% one and I treasure it dearly.

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

I've been playing this game wrong for a year and a half !!!

edit: or not, I can't reproduce this at all. I'll work on it tomorrow with more spawns I guess. if I can get excellent throws with a big circle it proves it wrong


maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean and since I'd always waited for the circle to get small and throw into its center I was doing this anyways. the way I'm reading it is you can let the circle get small but then hit the very edge of the pokemon for an excellent which seems incredibly not true. I think this whole time I've tried to max what I thought were two variables that was only one if I'm interpreting right

mastershakeman fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Dec 23, 2017

Psychobabble!
Jun 22, 2010

Observing this filth unsettles me

mastershakeman posted:

uh I thought great/excellent was from landing closer and closer to the right spot on the guy, and the circle was something else entirely that also boosts your chance

... Where you think you were supposed to hit? Did you think it was different for every Pokémon? How have you gone this long playing and not figured out that ring size and hitting within that was what triggered a nice/great/excellent? :psyduck:

Edit:

Entropist posted:

https://twitter.com/NianticHelp/status/944121556053008384?s=17
This implies that it would be your first spin after 1pm PST, not that it has to be a first spin of the day.



I guess it's a matter of interpretation; in the official announcement of getting them they say it comes with your streak spin iirc. You do your streak spin before the event went live, you lose out on an incubator. You'll get one when you spin tomorrow :shrug:. It probably helps that I had people yelling DON'T SPIN TILL ONE in my local Pokémon chat

Steve Jorbs posted:

So if you hold down and let go on the ball you can see the circle will be the same size from when you let go to when you touch it again. The trick is to hold down on the ball until you get a small enough circle and then let go. Then, you wait for the pokemon to perform an attack/jump animation.

Your advice was correct except don't do it during a jump animation if you're wanting to be safe. They can still attack at the end of their jump in a fraction of a second and I've missed balls because of it(same with their other minor animations that dont take away the throw circle). Now I only do it on attacks.

Psychobabble! fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Dec 23, 2017

GTJustin
Nov 24, 2010

mastershakeman posted:

uh I thought great/excellent was from landing closer and closer to the right spot on the guy, and the circle was something else entirely that also boosts your chance

https://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/guct-berry-throw-bonus-multipliers

Idk how to post the table but "throw bonus" is what you want to see. A great ball will give you a 1.7 - 1.9 multiplier, closer to the middle the higher bonus

endlessmonotony
Nov 4, 2009

by Fritz the Horse

mastershakeman posted:

I've been playing this game wrong for a year and a half !!!

edit: or not, I can't reproduce this at all. I'll work on it tomorrow with more spawns I guess. if I can get excellent throws with a big circle it proves it wrong


maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean and since I'd always waited for the circle to get small and throw into its center I was doing this anyways. the way I'm reading it is you can let the circle get small but then hit the very edge of the pokemon for an excellent which seems incredibly not true. I think this whole time I've tried to max what I thought were two variables that was only one if I'm interpreting right

The circle size, when you hit inside it, is what gives you the bonus. The "Nice!", "Great!" and "Excellent!" are labels for different sizes of the bonus. There's just one variable.

Chairman Mao
Apr 24, 2004

The Chinese Communist Party is the core of leadership of the whole Chinese people. Without this core, the cause of socialism cannot be victorious.
The white circle on the outside that stays the same size marks the area you need to hit for a catch, the shrinking circle marks the area you need to hit for a bonus, the smaller the circle the better the bonus (nice, great, excellent). The colour of the shrinking circle gives you a general idea of your chances of catching the Pokemon with that given ball/berry. Curveballs also increase your chances of a successful capture, and all three bonuses (curveball, berry, and circle) stack.

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord
I hatched a 15 defense shuckle.

You better believe I'm maxing out this turtle. Don't bother telling me how useless he is.

endlessmonotony
Nov 4, 2009

by Fritz the Horse
Also yeah, are the current sales just plain worthless if I don't care about star pieces or incenses/lures?

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

endlessmonotony posted:

Also yeah, are the current sales just plain worthless if I don't care about star pieces or incenses/lures?

I feel the same, these boxes are pretty poo poo. The old 480 box had 3 super incubators, now it has 2 regular ones. Terrible if you don't actually care about star pieces.

dwarf74 posted:

I hatched a 15 defense shuckle.

You better believe I'm maxing out this turtle. Don't bother telling me how useless he is.

Dooo it. I've been powering up random pokemon for the hell of it thanks to the weather effects giving increased stardust.

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Pomplamoose
Jun 28, 2008

dwarf74 posted:

I hatched a 15 defense shuckle.

You better believe I'm maxing out this turtle. Don't bother telling me how useless he is.

No wait until you get 15 HP. The defense stat doesn't really matter for shuckle since it's going to be huge no matter what. HP on the other hand, is much smaller to start out with, so high HP IVs will make a much bigger difference in the overall survivability. I mean shuckle isn't that great to begin with but the difference between 0 and 15 defense will be completely negligible while you might actually notice the difference between 15 and 0 HP.

Pokémon with high HP and low defense like chansey and wailord are the opposite: defense IVs will make a bigger difference than HP because the base stat proportions are reversed.

endlessmonotony posted:

Also yeah, are the current sales just plain worthless if I don't care about star pieces or incenses/lures?

For what might be the first time ever, the biggest box is actually the best deal. You get double the super incubators of the middle box for less than 2x the middle price. With other sales the biggest box usually cost over 2x the middle box or had less than 2x the worthwhile items.

Pomplamoose fucked around with this message at 06:24 on Dec 23, 2017

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