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Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

D_Smart posted:

Just disregard it. It's unenforceable.

It's beyond unenforceable - it's nonsensical. It states that they can be compensated for damages with no way out for the accused, and they also don't have to prove the damages, or the amount, to be due their compensation. What?

Their own TOS proves beyond a reasonable doubt that Star Citizen is now not just a scam, but a semi-organized criminal enterprise.


Learning your child is a Citizen taxxe:

Scruffpuff fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Dec 24, 2017

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AlbieQuirky
Oct 9, 2012

Just me and my 🌊dragon🐉 hanging out

Taco Duck posted:

How do you even play this poo poo?

You wake up in your wankpod/wankbunk, then you put on clothes from your closet, then you walk down a bunch of corridors, then you go to a bank of computers (Star Citizen) or a long meeting with Ser Davos (Squadron 42). Then you reserve your ship (Star Citizen) or have Mark Hamill tell you to get into your ship (Squadron 42). Then you get into your ship, unless it's upside down or unavailable (Star Citizen), then you fly endlessly to a place through a bunch of space dandruff. Then hopefully you land somewhere without crashing. Then you run down a bunch of corridors and maybe shoot some dudes or take some space cigars (Star Citizen) or stab some dudes with your space knife (Squadron 42).

Another thing you can do in Star Citizen is fly endlessly through the space dandruff to planets with nothing on them, where you can zoom around on your hover bike unless it turns upside down or clips through the planet's surface. You can also shoot some dudes if there are any dudes to shoot, but there usually aren't. Sometimes you can pick up a box and play Space UPS to earn credits, if the box doesn't disappear before you get it to Space UPS store.

Be sure to get a flashlight before you get into your ship because everything is as dark as gently caress. Also, you can wear different suits.

There will be space tanks someday. And space real estate. And Chinese space turtles.

Wise Learned Man
Apr 22, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Lipstick Apathy

Drunk Theory posted:

Yah, not joking. If they were really crazy they could try and make something of it to make you miserable. As unfortunate as it might be, maybe you shouldn't stream any 3.0.

"Developer of perpetually-delayed Star Citizen serves critical backer with lawsuit for playing the game" would be pretty amazing optics though. The true believers would eat it up, but nobody new would ever buy into the game (not that anyone really does at this point).


Also: For what it's worth, I'd like to go on record that I appreciate what Mirificus does for the thread, but I definitely prefer Spectrum stuff straight from the tap above all else, and always scroll past tweets.

TheLastRoboKy
May 2, 2009

Finishing the game with everyone else's continues

Scruffpuff posted:

It's beyond unenforceable - it's nonsensical. It states that they can be compensated for damages with no way out for the accused, and they also don't have to prove the damages or the amount do be due their compensation. What?

Their own TOS proves beyond a reasonable doubt that Star Citizen is now not just a scam, but a semi-organized criminal enterprise.

Hoping CIG starts sending out letters with a stereotyped mafia standover guy accent.

"Yeah we heard yous was uh... playin' our game on stream and it didn't look so good like. You know, Mister Roberts he don't like that. Wants it perfect. Yous make his game look not perfect and that tells me yous think he ain't perfect. Mister Roberts gets a bit... upset when peoples tell him he ain't perfect. Peoples sayin' things like that well... they don't end up lookin' too perfect themselves you know what I mean? But we can make this go away. Just give a little what-ya-call-it "injunction" to make Mister Roberts know that yous sorry and all. Yous seem like a nice kid, hate to have to come by and find someone went and thumb-faced ya, y'know?"

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jJeZvxPXAg&feature=youtu.be

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZlc6h6JI5M&feature=youtu.be

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

TheLastRoboKy posted:

Hoping CIG starts sending out letters with a stereotyped mafia standover guy accent.

"Yeah we heard yous was uh... playin' our game on stream and it didn't look so good like. You know, Mister Roberts he don't like that. Wants it perfect. Yous make his game look not perfect and that tells me yous think he ain't perfect. Mister Roberts gets a bit... upset when peoples tell him he ain't perfect. Peoples sayin' things like that well... they don't end up lookin' too perfect themselves you know what I mean? But we can make this go away. Just give a little what-ya-call-it "injunction" to make Mister Roberts know that yous sorry and all. Yous seem like a nice kid, hate to have to come by and find someone went and thumb-faced ya, y'know?"

:five:

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen

(There are not supposed to be asteroids in this scene)



(This is basically like if World of Warcraft hosed up so hard that a volcano spawned in the middle of Elwynn Forest.)

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Reddit is a tad salty in regards to the performance of 3.0.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

oh word?

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Colostomy Bag posted:

Reddit is a tad salty in regards to the performance of 3.0.

You don't say

XK
Jul 9, 2001

Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube


The load in my washing is unbalanced and aliens are singing songs to me about it?

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen

quote:

It mostly depends on what people are up to on your server. If they just do quiet cargo runs you'll be fine, but as soon as they start spawning NPCs there is no limit to how low your FPS can be. NPCs don't even seem to despawn, so that makes everything worse.

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

Sarsapariller posted:

It mostly depends on what people are up to on your server. If they just do quiet cargo runs you'll be fine, but as soon as they start spawning NPCs there is no limit to how low your FPS can be. NPCs don't even seem to despawn, so that makes everything worse.

Looks like I have my marching orders.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Hello friends

Is Chris Roberts going to release this game?

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen

quote:

Bzerker01 [+1] 129 points 4 hours ago
This is a mistake after all the hype CIG gave this patch. It's not playable, no one new to Star Citizen should even attempt to buy SC for 3.0 or even consider buying it for years to come at this point. Great for the rest of the backers but I implore the community to not sugarcoat this game or try and get new people interested when most won't get above 6 FPS.

129 upvotes

Decrepus
May 21, 2008

In the end, his dominion did not touch a single poster.



Remember when goons found out that a korean clip art company designed Big Benny and CIG's team of 300+ artists weren't up to the simple task lol

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



I like the dude in the "Production Schedule Report"s op going "Well they only have 30 bugs and if they are releasing it on live that means that the blockers were fixed :downs:"

Yo fucker, it means that they rushed it out of the shithole to meet a deadline, this thing is completely broken

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen

quote:

Delaross new user/low karma 21 points 3 hours ago
We were essentially lied to because the reason for delay 3.0 was supposed to be to fix performance and polish it.... takes me 30 minutes to launch the game and then 12 minutes to stand up. What is the point of releasing something that is unplayable?

thatguy
Feb 5, 2003
Can someone pull some funny bug reports for me to laugh at?

I'm sure there are a ton now.

Kilmers Elbow
Jun 15, 2012

my tank is jpeg

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
Are they really hosting a bunch of persistent servers that can only handle 5 players at a time?

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen

quote:

PappaRez 49 points 7 hours ago
IIRC a few months back when people were screaming blue murder over 3.0 not going to evocati, they said they want it to be as "polished" as possible. I remember people complaining that they were being to anal over little details. As much as i love CIG, they do talk complete nonesense sometimes. Polished? That's like Ikea looking at a tree and saying "yeh, just needs some polish". It's a miserable experience at the moment, nowhere even remotely close to being polished. It's still an alpha, yes, but lets have less of the "polished" "akin to early access" talk chris, it's nowhere near these things.

I think the Star Citizen Anti-Defamation League must be on holiday break because salt levels are off the charts.

quote:

cvc75 2 points 2 hours ago
Yup, only your own ships (and loaners) now.

And only your "standard" amount of starting money (whatever that is), but mission payoff is still as low as it was in the PTU.

I tried it once this evening, wanted to do a mission, got to the pickup point and couldn't leave my ship because interaction didn't work for anyone on the server anymore.

Instead of restarting and filing a claim for my ship I guess I'll wait for 3.0.1 or whatever the next version will be...

I know the thread is in the post-anniversary stream refractory period, but people should be jumping on this- there are some eyes opening in the sub tonight. Or maybe all of you poor bastards are actually trying to play 3.0 for the first time? Bless your hearts.

nnnotime
Sep 30, 2001

Hesitate, and you will be lost.

Sarsapariller posted:

quote:

Delaross new user/low karma 21 points 3 hours ago
We were essentially lied to because the reason for delay 3.0 was supposed to be to fix performance and polish it.... takes me 30 minutes to launch the game and then 12 minutes to stand up. What is the point of releasing something that is unplayable?
Does this mean somebody at CIG, somewhere on the planet, is going to be working through Christmas on a patch?

Or do you think said CIG staff will revolt, forcing the latest 3.0 update to be pulled?

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



So it looks like the first quarterly patch is only going to be optimization and bug fixes. So 3 months of this hunk of junk before "optimization" kicks in. Which in reality means that this wont be playable till the 2nd quarter. Which means you wont see any new content till december 2018.

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon

D_Smart posted:

Just disregard it. It's unenforceable.

Your legal team available if they try?

SomethingJones
Mar 6, 2016

<3

Dusty Lens posted:

the T posing model center right somehow looks even worse in motion. It's just being rotated. Amazing.



I can't quite believe how bad this thing is

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen

nnnotime posted:

Does this mean somebody at CIG, somewhere on the planet, is going to be working through Christmas on a patch?

Or do you think said CIG staff will revolt, forcing the latest 3.0 update to be pulled?

I don't understand why anybody works at CIG but they all seem to be pretty thoroughly browbeaten. I have no doubt a few will be working through the holidays.

Golli
Jan 5, 2013



Sarsapariller posted:

I don't understand why anybody works at CIG but they all seem to be pretty thoroughly browbeaten. I have no doubt a few will be working through the holidays.

Is it normal to have all of your devs sitting side by side with no partitions or anything to use as personal space? It looks like a step down from cubicle farms, and would be terribly unproductive for me. Noisy, peripheral vision distractions, etc. Terrible.

Really reminds me of galley slaves chained to the oars.

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen

Somebody asked for issue councils

quote:

PORT OLISAR IS NOW IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ASTEROID FIELD

ACTUAL RESULT

Navigation hazards while taking off/landing at Olisar


EXPECTED RESULT

There should be no asteroids over Olisar.



quote:

QUANTUM TRAVEL - EMERGENCY STOP EVERY FEW SECONDS (BUCCANEER)

ACTUAL RESULT

emergency stop every time quantum jump is engaged with ship instability from the moment you engage the quantum drive.


EXPECTED RESULT

the ability to actually quantum jump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHTEDXcWl-I&t=34s

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen

quote:

ASTEROIDS INSIDE ATMOSPHERE

ACTUAL RESULT

Floating asteroids inside atmosphere


EXPECTED RESULT

No asteroids inside atmosphere floating like balloons.
either they are and they are falling or simply nothing......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYo1Lc5zvyo

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen

quote:

NPC RUNNING IN PLACE

ACTUAL RESULT

NPC's are running in place.


EXPECTED RESULT

NPC should proceed along calculated route.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfRfCcmaRgA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgOTKqNfNRo

SoftNum
Mar 31, 2011

Golli posted:

Is it normal to have all of your devs sitting side by side with no partitions or anything to use as personal space? It looks like a step down from cubicle farms, and would be terribly unproductive for me. Noisy, peripheral vision distractions, etc. Terrible.

Really reminds me of galley slaves chained to the oars.

Open Plan is pretty good for software dev cause dev tends to be a highly collaborative activity where people are working in clusters on certain projects. But yeah open plan is super standard for new companies now.

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen

quote:

MOBIGLAS FAILING TO OPEN

ACTUAL RESULT

Using F1 or F2 yields no results to open Mobiglas.
Mobiglas interface flashes open before closing just as quickly.


EXPECTED RESULT

Mobiglas should remain open until dismissed by player.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STpzgmaeaB4

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen

This one is pretty spectacular

quote:

ASTEROID MULTIPLICATION PATTERNS

ACTUAL RESULT

Groups of asteroids jump forward in fixed increments and leave copies behind. The new copies appear out of nowhere, but follow a clear interval. This may be related to issue #STARC-45670 and other asteroid oddities.


EXPECTED RESULT

Asteroids should either stay stationary or orbit naturally and not leave copies behind.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k05rDpcP6WE

quote:

FLASHING PLANETS/ATMOSPHERE

ACTUAL RESULT

The entire planet/atmosphere of a planet seems to turn on/off constantly.


EXPECTED RESULT

Planet should be nice to look at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj3uHUvcMHU

nnnotime
Sep 30, 2001

Hesitate, and you will be lost.

Sarsapariller posted:

NPC RUNNING IN PLACE

ACTUAL RESULT

NPC's are running in place.
How is that a bug? Just shows some of the NPCs are fanatics about staying in shape: so what?

juggalo baby coffin
Dec 2, 2007

How would the dog wear goggles and even more than that, who makes the goggles?


Sarsapariller posted:

I don't understand why anybody works at CIG but they all seem to be pretty thoroughly browbeaten. I have no doubt a few will be working through the holidays.

at this point it seems to be almost all people new to the industry, who would have had a harder time getting senior-sounding positions at another company

they must just be there building up their portfolios and resumes, I can't imagine anyone actively in touch with the code on this thing can believe its really going to go anywhere.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
If this stays live for months it may kill CIG, it's a laughing stock

Golli
Jan 5, 2013



SoftNum posted:

Open Plan is pretty good for software dev cause dev tends to be a highly collaborative activity where people are working in clusters on certain projects. But yeah open plan is super standard for new companies now.

Thanks - that makes sense. It's not for me, but if it works and everyone is used to it.

Do companies like CIG have an internal IT staff who are dedicated to setting up and maintaining their networks, servers, workstations, etc? Making sure the security is up-to-date, creating standard builds for dev workstations, testing software updates (OS patches, etc) - or is it a collateral duty that someone does in their spare time?

If it is based on company size, what is a typical inflection point size-wise that the overhead of such a staff is typically incurred?

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Combat Theory
Jul 16, 2017

you dont need Bug Reports even


just look at this hot piece of 3.0 Live Goodness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB1q1nuCbYY

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