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Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


mrchinchin25 posted:

1) all staff must now take holidays or unpaid leave for a few weeks
2) release 3.0 into the wild just before
3) gently caress up insurance mechanics
4) ...
5) profit

(Calling it)

loving with the chariots is the one sin backers do not forgive easily. They're going to come back to a giant pile of refund requests (If they come back at all, the first court date for the Crytek suit is in about two weeks IIRC)

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Ursine Catastrophe
Nov 9, 2009

It's a lovely morning in the void and you are a horrible lady-in-waiting.



don't ask how i know

Dinosaur Gum

mrchinchin25 posted:

The important thing I took from Christmas Roberts' post was not about performance but that they'd be on a Christmas break until mid jan. So don't any of you entitled cuntifilas start tearing up concern posts right now

Side-plot- like many struggling businesses I wonder if CIG is doing the old shutdown for Christmas to cut costs routine? Imagine...

1) all staff must now take holidays or unpaid leave for a few weeks
2) release 3.0 into the wild just before
3) gently caress up insurance mechanics
4) ...
5) profit

(Calling it)



A few weeks? Try months

mrchinchin25
Apr 14, 2012

Dat BDSSE

Ursine Catastrophe posted:



A few weeks? Try months

Holy poo poo this is going to be one hell of a trainwreck few months

Xaerael
Aug 25, 2010

Marching Powder is objectively the worst poster known. He also needs to learn how a keyboard works.

Ursine Catastrophe posted:



A few weeks? Try months

No, you're not very fluent in Robertseese. He said "March". Just like he said "before the end of the year" for 3.0.

3.1 release: March 2019 confirmed.

Ursine Catastrophe
Nov 9, 2009

It's a lovely morning in the void and you are a horrible lady-in-waiting.



don't ask how i know

Dinosaur Gum

mrchinchin25 posted:

Holy poo poo this is going to be one hell of a trainwreck few months

the best part is they're aiming for march, which really means "july if you're lucky"

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

Chris Roberts posted:

Fill up a Caterpillar with cargo, blow it up over an Outpost on a moon and you can bring the clients and servers to their knees (as you've just added hundreds if not thousands of additional objects to simulate).

Lets rewind and focus on this sentence. 'Crazy poo poo' in this game about flying ships in space is defined as 'filling a cargo ship with cargo, and having that ship be shot at'.

mrchinchin25
Apr 14, 2012

Dat BDSSE

Bootcha posted:

Let's try this again, Merry Christmas...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU3uEBUBIEA

I rubbed

mrchinchin25
Apr 14, 2012

Dat BDSSE

Ursine Catastrophe posted:

the best part is they're aiming for march, which really means "july if you're lucky"

Hah yeah they're aiming for March... they're also aiming to do regular monthly updates (no chance)

What a time to be alive!

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



They come in back to the offices mid january. They got a little over two months to bug fix and do whatever they can to try and fix the performance issues. That leaves very little time to actually add any content other than more ships for whales.

So It'll take them till june/july to add the content that was originally schedule for 3.0 back into 3.0. So that leaves them 6 months to add mining into the game when it took them a full 2 years to go from video presentation of 3.0 to actual 3.0 release.

e- Just loving imagine it. They are complaining about cargo ships breaking the game, imagine when mineral haulers get added to the game. Imagine when cruise liners need to be simulated into the game. Imagine when the cruise liner gets blown up as its arriving into port and the server has to simulate all those corpses

Cao Ni Ma fucked around with this message at 12:59 on Dec 25, 2017

Loxbourne
Apr 6, 2011

Tomorrow, doom!
But now, tea.
We are now firmly in the blameshifting phase. I wonder if Chris actually thinks 3.0 IS the Jesus Patch, and if so is it solely out of ego or because none of his workforce have dared show him the actual state of the project?

intardnation
Feb 18, 2016

I'm going to space!

:gary: :yarg:

juggalo baby coffin posted:



WE'RE SANDY AND CROBERTS, AVARICE AND GREED
WE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE WHALES, JUST IGNOOORED THE GLA
WE SPECIALISED IN JPG SALES, SPREADING DREAMS AND SCOPE
AND IF YOU SPAWNED THE WRONG TEST SHIP
WE SIMPLY THREW YOU OUT

(i did a really bad job on the photoshop but im too lazy to do it better)

you didnt have to use their real pictures and dox them.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Cao Ni Ma posted:

e- Just loving imagine it. They are complaining about cargo ships breaking the game, imagine when mineral haulers get added to the game. Imagine when cruise liners need to be simulated into the game. Imagine when the cruise liner gets blown up as its arriving into port and the server has to simulate all those corpses

hell, imagine if 3.0 had the entire Stanton system like they originally planned.

intardnation
Feb 18, 2016

I'm going to space!

:gary: :yarg:

ThePotatoMasher posted:

Do they do this for non-concierge customers? I only have about 300 in but I'd love to get that back. How would one go about asking for a refund? I don't see an email address

send in a support ticket

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

Virtual Captain
Feb 20, 2017

Archive Priest of the Stimperial Order

Star Citizen Good, in all things forevermore. Amen.
:pray:

Cao Ni Ma posted:

They come in back to the offices mid january. They got a little over two months to bug fix and do whatever they can to try and fix the performance issues. That leaves very little time to actually add any content other than more ships for whales.

So It'll take them till june/july to add the content that was originally schedule for 3.0 back into 3.0. So that leaves them 6 months to add mining into the game when it took them a full 2 years to go from video presentation of 3.0 to actual 3.0 release.

e- Just loving imagine it. They are complaining about cargo ships breaking the game, imagine when mineral haulers get added to the game. Imagine when cruise liners need to be simulated into the game. Imagine when the cruise liner gets blown up as its arriving into port and the server has to simulate all those corpses

Just a reminder on what 3.0 promised vs delivered:

Added
Walk anywhere on planets and moons 1
Seamless landings 1
Immersive landing pad and traffic control from NPCs 1
Day and night cycles 1

Barely qualifies
Expand the Stanton System (two moons isn't much) 1
Cargo Transport (Couple missions, no actual profession) 1

Totally missing
Basic mining 1
Trading 1 2
Piracy 1
Mercenary 1
Bounty hunting 1 2
Diverse NPC actions 1
Economy driven missions 1
Increased mission complexity 1


Search "patch", "3.1", "3.2", "3.3", or "4.0" on https://starcitizentracker.github.io/ for dreams not yet shattered.

biglads
Feb 21, 2007

I could've gone to Blatherwycke



So you can crash the servers by attempting to play the game....

Well, I'm afraid if you do that then you just aren't playing it right, which is to say, playing it according to Christ Roberts (pbuh) vision so frankly you don't deserve to play it., cuntiflud :smuggo:

Even if you forget about the terrible performance issues & technical debt that the project is in, there is no way a genuine 'sandbox' game is going to be created by someone with as blinkered a vision as Crobs.

Merry Christmas to Goons, FUDDERS, cattes, doggoes, legal eagles and Smarticles, may the entertainment continue.

Virtual Captain
Feb 20, 2017

Archive Priest of the Stimperial Order

Star Citizen Good, in all things forevermore. Amen.
:pray:


Chris' hesitant "yeessss...." makes me :laugh:

D_Smart
May 11, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
College Slice

A Neurotic Corncob posted:

Chris has made a rare appearance on his weird discord knock-off in order to provide the base with some fresh talking points for the new year.

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/1/thread/star-citizen-alpha-3-0-performance-tidbits

I knew croberts had balls. But I had no idea they were Platinum. I just read his latest. Wow. Not only is he blaming gamers for doing precisely the features he sold them, but also managed to blame *them* for the server issues.

That poo poo is never getting fixed. I wrote already that they had reached zero barrier on what they could with the game and engine.

The End

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Slow_Moe
Feb 18, 2013

D_Smart posted:

I knew croberts had balls. But I had no idea they were Platinum. I just read his latest. Wow. Not only is he blaming gamers for doing precisely the features he sold them, but also managed to blame *them* for the server issues.

That poo poo is never getting fixed. I wrote already that they had reached zero barrier on what they could with the game and engine.

The End

It's not balls, it's a complete and utter lack of awareness. About the state of the game, about what he has sold backers, about the backers' expectations, about everything.

AlbieQuirky
Oct 9, 2012

Just me and my 🌊dragon🐉 hanging out

Loxbourne posted:

We are now firmly in the blameshifting phase. I wonder if Chris actually thinks 3.0 IS the Jesus Patch, and if so is it solely out of ego or because none of his workforce have dared show him the actual state of the project?

Star Citizen cannot fail you. You can only fail Star Citizen. o'

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



I love Chris. I mean he shows you a graph that says that over half of the people playing are getting 15fps or less and he takes pride of the amount of people at less than 5fps.

Dusty Lens
Jul 1, 2015

All Glory unto the Stimpire. Give up your arms and legs and embrace the beautiful agony of electricity that doubles in pain every second.

I'm glad that attempting to do 3.0 damage control is prefaced by it being a generous holiday gift.

One can only hope to be worthy of such a gift.

A Neurotic Corncob
Nov 12, 2016

A light wind swept over the corn, and all nature laughed in the sunshine.


That spectrum thread is great, backers detail just how broken the game is, Chris and Toni throwing nonsense words at them until they are appeased, backers then fawning over them for taking the time to do "work" on Christmas. Star Citizen is good.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Not only has Roberts saved PC gaming, he saved Christmas as well.

kilus aof
Mar 24, 2001

Alchenar posted:

Lets rewind and focus on this sentence. 'Crazy poo poo' in this game about flying ships in space is defined as 'filling a cargo ship with cargo, and having that ship be shot at'.

And he is talking about just the Caterpillar. The Hull-E JPEG spec has 166 times the cargo capacity of a Caterpillar. The way the game functions now that ship is impossible. 166 times over. And cultists for years have had dreams of Hull-E convoys with escorts fighting off pirate attacks.

D_Smart
May 11, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
College Slice

A Neurotic Corncob posted:



That spectrum thread is great, backers detail just how broken the game is, Chris and Toni throwing nonsense words at them until they are appeased, backers then fawning over them for taking the time to do "work" on Christmas. Star Citizen is good.

I spent 15 mins in that thread. I didn't know what to expect. Then I realized that, for as much as we take this to be a joke, this - this - is a loving cult. Can you imagine what would happen if EA, Activision et al pulled this poo poo?

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Dusty Lens
Jul 1, 2015

All Glory unto the Stimpire. Give up your arms and legs and embrace the beautiful agony of electricity that doubles in pain every second.

Alchenar posted:

Lets rewind and focus on this sentence. 'Crazy poo poo' in this game about flying ships in space is defined as 'filling a cargo ship with cargo, and having that ship be shot at'.

It's also worth noting that in this case "crazy poo poo" is literally working as intended. For years the plan has been to blow up ships and manually scoop up physical boxes as the mechanisms for piracy.

Have the backers demanded too much?????

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."

Bootcha posted:

Let's try this again, Merry Christmas...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU3uEBUBIEA

I missed your music/visual choices. Can't wait for more. :perfect:

kw0134
Apr 19, 2003

I buy feet pics🍆

Dusty Lens posted:

It's also worth noting that in this case "crazy poo poo" is literally working as intended. For years the plan has been to blow up ships and manually scoop up physical boxes as the mechanisms for piracy.

Have the backers demanded too much?????
It's worse than that because the game seems to stutter on the most basic things. Climbing ladders, waking up in the wankpod, seeing another person -- the performance seems to die on almost anything you can imagine a person can do. So Crobbers is saying the players are doing weird things, like starting the game. It's a travesty.

Combat Theory
Jul 16, 2017

Crobberts and Tony Zurovac pull off damage control posts on spectrum over Christmas. How can this become any better?

TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House
Grimey Drawer
happy holidays thread

I'm not sure how CIG can top this year's gently caress ups, but I'm anxiously awaiting them

Bob Socko
Feb 20, 2001

Combat Theory posted:

Crobberts and Tony Zurovac pull off damage control posts on spectrum over Christmas. How can this become any better?
Criminal charges.

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




Lol if you think that's actually the crobbler and not some faceless intern with a buzzword cheat sheet.

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."

History Comes Inside! posted:

Lol if you think that's actually the crobbler and not some faceless intern with a buzzword cheat sheet.

Crobblers is super defensive when it comes to his baby, no matter how mangled his mismanagement has made it (remember the Escapist article from 2 years back, where he felt it necessary to personally write a long letter to 'debunk' it in his mushmouth style and plaster it on the front page lmao). So in his case, I'd actually believe it still really is him!

BeigeJacket
Jul 21, 2005

Bootcha posted:

Let's try this again, Merry Christmas...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU3uEBUBIEA

:five:

When is this coming out?!

SirViver
Oct 22, 2008
Two weeks.

Spiderdrake
May 12, 2001



The Titanic posted:

I’d love a great new Starflight, with the same general gameplay mechanics and a fresh skin of paint for this generation.
If a new Starflight makes it out before Star Citizen implodes I can't wait to discuss the remake of an actual classic game in this thread

while Star Citizen is exploding in the background. Very scenic.

Shadowlyger
Nov 5, 2009

ElvUI super fan at your service!

Ask me any and all questions about UI customization via PM

G0RF posted:

Merry Christmas all ye gentlemen and lady folk. Thanks to all who participate and make this such essential, informative and hilarious reading day in and out!



Holy poo poo

Exinos
Mar 1, 2009

OSHA approved squiq
Merry Chris-mess and happy new patch!

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Dusty Lens
Jul 1, 2015

All Glory unto the Stimpire. Give up your arms and legs and embrace the beautiful agony of electricity that doubles in pain every second.

kw0134 posted:

So Crobbers is saying the players are doing weird things, like starting the game.

To be fair he's not wrong

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