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White Light
Dec 19, 2012

I still want them to do trading, screw all the haters :colbert:

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Willsun
Dec 9, 2006

I willed too hard again...
Trading killed my family, I don't want trading.

mastershakeman posted:

no , my solution is not rotating out legendaries during winter where it snows. because what if it snows all month

Then don't play, dude. Jesus christ, not everyone lives in a place known to snow every year. Until tech catches up where it's cheap enough for companies to micromanage every area's weather condition, that's just too bad.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS

Willsun posted:

Then don't play, dude. Jesus christ, not everyone lives in a place known to snow every year. Until tech catches up where it's cheap enough for companies to micromanage every area's weather condition, that's just too bad.

yeah we already have proof Niantic can't do weather logic properly. Not only is it stupid, it's obviously implausible! Even if it's snowing raids should keep going because so what? They're effectively zero cost to run, and it's not like they go away after a day of snow. And some people walk outside, even in the snow, so it'd be doubly dumb to stop them.

and as a side note, we all know if Niantic did this godawful idea people in Australia would be complaining about "why the gently caress did Niantic stop raids during the summer?"

Ballz
Dec 16, 2003

it's mario time

So is it a thing to knock people out of gyms at 11:59 pm? I swear it happens to me at least once a week.

SeXTcube
Jan 1, 2009

Ballz posted:

So is it a thing to knock people out of gyms at 11:59 pm? I swear it happens to me at least once a week.
I get knocked out at like 11:50 all the time. Serious dick move but oh well.

Irukandji Syndrome
Dec 26, 2008
Personally I appreciate it because I often only manage one gym a day, so if my gym gets knocked out before midnight I get my full coins for that day. :v:

MY PALE GOTH SKIN
Nov 28, 2006


meow

mastershakeman posted:

no , my solution is not rotating out legendaries during winter where it snows. because what if it snows all month

Has it ever snowed for an entire month where you live?

If so, does it happen frequently?

If so, goddamn it dude you're supposed to be delivering presents, not raiding

And you can take a vacay anywhere, I'm sad to find out santa is such a whiny bitch

AirRaid
Dec 21, 2004

Nose Manual + Super Sonic Spin Attack

mastershakeman posted:

no , my solution is not rotating out legendaries during winter where it snows. because what if it snows all month

The answer to this is the same answer Niantic has for anyone who doesn't live in an optimal place for PoGo play: "get hosed".

Willsun
Dec 9, 2006

I willed too hard again...

Psion posted:

And some people walk outside, even in the snow, so it'd be doubly dumb to stop them.

Be careful, this is the point when people like him cross over from being frustrated at the game to trying to sabotage the company so that no one can play by complaining that simply allowing raids to happen everywhere else in the world = they're encouraging players to hurt themselves in dangerous weather in the places that has obviously dangerous weather anyone can see by looking up the moment they step outside.

Ballz posted:

So is it a thing to knock people out of gyms at 11:59 pm? I swear it happens to me at least once a week.

The only thing I can think of is if the person is somehow playing on the old gym system logic where they want to take as many gyms as possible when a new day starts, manually collect their coins, and then not have to worry for the rest of the day. Maybe it's like a rogue bot account still running around with orders from the days of the old gym system and the user forgot its password or something. :psylon:

The real answer is probably just coincidence and someone sleeps just as late as you and is taking their dog for a walk before going to bed and knocking you out of your gym because they didn't have time the rest of their day to get something into a gym.

AirRaid posted:

The answer to this is the same answer Niantic has for anyone who doesn't live in an optimal place for PoGo play: "get hosed".

As most people have evidenced, you have to live in a really rural or unimportant place to not be able to play normally. I don't know how Niantic is supposed to make more friends for you to play with, and I don't know why people living in lovely areas keep banging their heads against this game. The only complaints I can think of you guys having:

1. There's hardly any stops for us to get items! They make churches and post offices stops very often, which is like the core structures of every small town. I'm sorry your town decided to build somewhere with no jobs or reason for people to live at?

2. There's not enough people for raids! Most legendary raids take at minimum 7 mediocre accounts. Lead your own town's Facebook page or Discord channel, gather them up. If you don't have the advantage of having people raiding constantly to form casual groups, set playdates that people can agree on. Weekends are a good time I imagine. I don't know if you're asking Niantic to teach you to be social or to force more podunk, tech-fearing rural people to have interest in an AR mobile game or what.

3. The reception sucks where I live! Niantic doesn't build cell towers.

Prop Wash
Jun 12, 2010



You post like a total rear end in a top hat.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer
My Ex Raid pass was at a park, so it wasn’t initially cancelled, but now it definitely is.

The park was closed today, so I don’t blame them for just canceling them all, but giving 2 normal raid passes versus rescheduling to like, this Saturday is loving lame.

TheMaestroso
Nov 4, 2014

I must know your secrets.

Chairman Mao posted:

My best guess is that they're giving you a tier 4 raid that you can do with a buddy and still reap the high level rewards without having to organize a big raid party. It's kind of the perfect raid for rural players because you don't need to get a big group together you just need a friend.

Kinda wish I had someone to play with for these, because I have yet to get the chance to due to needing minimum 2 people.

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

TheMaestroso posted:

Kinda wish I had someone to play with for these, because I have yet to get the chance to due to needing minimum 2 people.

if you can find an old cheap deactivated phone you can make yourself an alt using a wifi hotspot. it's why nearly everyone has dual accounts now

Chairman Mao
Apr 24, 2004

The Chinese Communist Party is the core of leadership of the whole Chinese people. Without this core, the cause of socialism cannot be victorious.

TheMaestroso posted:

Kinda wish I had someone to play with for these, because I have yet to get the chance to due to needing minimum 2 people.

poo poo, I forgot, goons don't have friends. My bad. :(

I agree with mastershakeman (a Christmas miracle?), just track down a second phone for raids. You can bring your alt account up to a usable state pretty quick by going after Tyranitars, legendaries and weather boosted raid bosses.

Prop Wash
Jun 12, 2010



If you want, you can even make your alt account a different team. I'm not saying to do that because I have no idea if it's ok or not according to Niantic. It's a decent idea for rural players because it's not uncommon to see your Pokemon stranded in gyms for days or even weeks. Like Mao said, alt accounts grow up real fast now because you can carry them through 2- and 3-head raids (and the raid pokemon won't be capped at the alt's level).

Chairman Mao
Apr 24, 2004

The Chinese Communist Party is the core of leadership of the whole Chinese people. Without this core, the cause of socialism cannot be victorious.

Prop Wash posted:

If you want, you can even make your alt account a different team. I'm not saying to do that because I have no idea if it's ok or not according to Niantic. It's a decent idea for rural players because it's not uncommon to see your Pokemon stranded in gyms for days or even weeks. Like Mao said, alt accounts grow up real fast now because you can carry them through 2- and 3-head raids (and the raid pokemon won't be capped at the alt's level).

Pretty sure alts in general are against the tos. Not like they enforce anything that can't be automated though, so tethering a second phone to your main should be fine no matter what you do with it. Maybe just don't go bragging to discord about it. Or do if that's cool in your community. Around here alts are totally acceptable and even spoofers are mostly welcome with open arms (unless they play like dickbags) because most of the time we're just happy to get the numbers we need. Of course if you're setting up a second account because you can't find any other players that's probably not something you need to worry about anyway.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS
there's one person here who REALLY CARES about alts or even just bringing someone else's phone and nobody else gives a drat

we have a pretty reasonable number of people who have one account but sometimes bring someone else's phone and double up on a raid and some people who just straight up have two phones and nobody cares. there's one couple I know with five phones between the two of them.

Das Doppelganger
Dec 22, 2012

mastershakeman posted:

no , my solution is not rotating out legendaries during winter where it snows. because what if it snows all month

You could make people quit the internet cold turkey. You could probably hire that out.

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seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
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I honestly don't give a poo poo about spoofers anymore, and if their presence is the difference between beating a raid or failing it, by all means.

kensei
Dec 27, 2007

He has come home, where he belongs. The Ancient Mariner returns to lead his first team to glory, forever and ever. Amen!


seiferguy posted:

I honestly don't give a poo poo about spoofers anymore, and if their presence is the difference between beating a raid or failing it, by all means.

There are times when we have 20 people to do a raid so we go private and exclude the spoofers, but most of the time I am happy to have their help...

endlessmonotony
Nov 4, 2009

by Fritz the Horse
... how did the Christmas deals get... worse?

Doug Sisk
Sep 11, 2001

endlessmonotony posted:

... how did the Christmas deals get... worse?

The ultra box seems pretty drat good for the super incubators and premium passes alone

endlessmonotony
Nov 4, 2009

by Fritz the Horse

Doug Sisk posted:

The ultra box seems pretty drat good for the super incubators and premium passes alone

It's better than the pre-Christmas equivalent, but it's not the best of deals.

And the other two boxes are just ???.

TheMaestroso
Nov 4, 2014

I must know your secrets.
Yeah no, I have neither the time nor the motivation to grind a second account to the point where I can actually duo an Absol. It's not worth it.

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

TheMaestroso posted:

Yeah no, I have neither the time nor the motivation to grind a second account to the point where I can actually duo an Absol. It's not worth it.

basically you do egg raids where you bring the second account with, then machamps for a while. I haven't had the phone to do it until recently but it's totally worth it

oddly , I had my alt help with a Groudon and he wasn't allowed to try to catch it. alt was only 22 though

Das Doppelganger
Dec 22, 2012
Anybody here have the Go-tcha or had one that can speak to the expected experience?

Cowslips Warren
Oct 29, 2005

What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?

Grimey Drawer

Das Doppelganger posted:

Anybody here have the Go-tcha or had one that can speak to the expected experience?

I got the Plus and love it, other than needing to replace the battery every few months.


So all the parks around here closed at 5pm today, but idiots are still out doing raids. gently caress there were a few EX passes at parks that were closed and had the gates barred, and people parked elsewhere and jumped the gate. I half wish someone had called the cops on the trespassers. Like seriously?

Das Doppelganger
Dec 22, 2012

Cowslips Warren posted:

I got the Plus and love it, other than needing to replace the battery every few months.

I wanted the Go-tcha based on the autospin as I drive through a lot of stops on the way home from work every day. Tried it out today locally And I literally had to stop the car and sit 30 seconds before it would spin a stop. I'm not looking to get spins at 40 mph, but it shouldn't literally be worse than walking.

Acinonyx
Oct 21, 2005
How many people does it take to beat a Groudon? I never gave a poo poo about the legendary birds and whatever, but this guy looks cool. Sadly, I'm out in the willie-whacks and there are hardly any people. The most people I've run into at a raid was 3, a father son team and a teenager.

Dr. Abysmal
Feb 17, 2010

We're all doomed

Psion posted:

there's one person here who REALLY CARES about alts or even just bringing someone else's phone and nobody else gives a drat

we have a pretty reasonable number of people who have one account but sometimes bring someone else's phone and double up on a raid and some people who just straight up have two phones and nobody cares. there's one couple I know with five phones between the two of them.

Back in the summer when legendary raiding was still new and Moltres had just come out I was hanging around a gym with a handful of other geeks waiting to see if there were any others from the chat heading over because we didn't think we'd win with just 5 guys and didn't want to burn the pass on a failed run, and then one guy got back on his bike and bailed. Then a man pulls up in his car with his two sons and asks us if we've gone in yet. The kids have their own phones and are playing and the dad pulls out three separate phones and juggles them, giving us enough manpower to win the fight. It was actually pretty awesome.

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord

Das Doppelganger posted:

Anybody here have the Go-tcha or had one that can speak to the expected experience?
I have a Go-tcha and love it. Sometimes the auto-spins are a bit slow, but sometimes not. I have found that leaving the app open - with a good connection - means that I can hit stops somewhere north of 30 mph. Not all the time, but pretty consistently. It's definitely more than the zero I'd get without.

Louisgod
Sep 25, 2003

Always Stupid
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Acinonyx posted:

How many people does it take to beat a Groudon? I never gave a poo poo about the legendary birds and whatever, but this guy looks cool. Sadly, I'm out in the willie-whacks and there are hardly any people. The most people I've run into at a raid was 3, a father son team and a teenager.

5 or 6 people in the 30s with solid teams. Sometimes need a couple more if you’re going against solar beam, otherwisw it’s easy to take down.

White Light
Dec 19, 2012

Louisgod posted:

5 or 6 people in the 30s with solid teams. Sometimes need a couple more if you’re going against solar beam, otherwisw it’s easy to take down.

Easy to take down, a real son-of-a-bitch to catch :argh:

Prop Wash
Jun 12, 2010



Das Doppelganger posted:

I wanted the Go-tcha based on the autospin as I drive through a lot of stops on the way home from work every day. Tried it out today locally And I literally had to stop the car and sit 30 seconds before it would spin a stop. I'm not looking to get spins at 40 mph, but it shouldn't literally be worse than walking.

Assuming you’re using iOS, the go plus got broke real bad by the update a few months back. It hasn’t really ever been fixed. It worked for like a day after the most recent iOS update but for whatever reason went right back to its incredibly laggy functionality. That’s my experience, anyway.

Edit: didn’t realize the gotcha was a different product, whoops. Interesting that it seems to be having the same problems.

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MY PALE GOTH SKIN
Nov 28, 2006


meow

Das Doppelganger posted:

Anybody here have the Go-tcha or had one that can speak to the expected experience?

Had both, prefer Gotcha because my brain gets annoyed with the bzzzt bzzzt bzzzt of the Plus. And it's easier to use while driving.
And it catches faster.

You can set it to manual, where you poke the static switch to catch and spin, anyway, so it's like a Plus with more options.

The biggest pain is charging it, and popping it in and out of the bracelet or pendant. Mine popped out of the bracelet last night, and I didn't notice it was gone for hours. I looked all through the house, nada. Finally went back to the store I went to last night, checked the parking lot. It was squished down into wet snow. I assumed it was bricked.

Nope. As soon as I got it dry enough on the outside to use the static switch, it connected. It was definitely run over a few times in addition to sitting in wet snow for 25 hours. I'm a fan.



Das Doppelganger posted:

I wanted the Go-tcha based on the autospin as I drive through a lot of stops on the way home from work every day. Tried it out today locally And I literally had to stop the car and sit 30 seconds before it would spin a stop. I'm not looking to get spins at 40 mph, but it shouldn't literally be worse than walking.

It.. shouldn't be doing that. Sometimes it can be a little slow to start spinning and catching after repairing, but once mine is going, it goes pretty fast, and will successfully spin stops I'm well out of range of.

Are you on iOS, by chance? Apparently it's been having issues on iOS for months.

Acinonyx posted:

How many people does it take to beat a Groudon? I never gave a poo poo about the legendary birds and whatever, but this guy looks cool. Sadly, I'm out in the willie-whacks and there are hardly any people. The most people I've run into at a raid was 3, a father son team and a teenager.

I've been four-manning it with three other level 40s who have high level or maxed out teams for each charge move, sooo.. more than three.

Pokebattler is probably the best way to see how many more you guys need.

Das Doppelganger
Dec 22, 2012

MY PALE GOTH SKIN posted:

It.. shouldn't be doing that. Sometimes it can be a little slow to start spinning and catching after repairing, but once mine is going, it goes pretty fast, and will successfully spin stops I'm well out of range of.

Are you on iOS, by chance? Apparently it's been having issues on iOS for months.

Android. I've been reading all the good reviews on spins and was wondering if it was hogwash or if I have a bum unit. It spins within moments of 'finding' the stops, but it takes forever to find them. (The pink arrow over the stop) I wonder if distance between the Gotcha and the phone is an issue. I had the wristband on the rear view mirror and the phone on my lap.

I'll monitor it the next couple of days, try it on other devices, and return if needed.

Thanks!

Chairman Mao
Apr 24, 2004

The Chinese Communist Party is the core of leadership of the whole Chinese people. Without this core, the cause of socialism cannot be victorious.

Cowslips Warren posted:

So all the parks around here closed at 5pm today, but idiots are still out doing raids. gently caress there were a few EX passes at parks that were closed and had the gates barred, and people parked elsewhere and jumped the gate. I half wish someone had called the cops on the trespassers. Like seriously?

That was my plan if the park my ex raid was at was closed. What kind of loving monster would call the cops on people sneaking into a park for fifteen minutes to play a video game? On Christmas no less.

Psychobabble!
Jun 22, 2010

Observing this filth unsettles me

dwarf74 posted:

I have a Go-tcha and love it. Sometimes the auto-spins are a bit slow, but sometimes not. I have found that leaving the app open - with a good connection - means that I can hit stops somewhere north of 30 mph. Not all the time, but pretty consistently. It's definitely more than the zero I'd get without.

My go-tcha auto spins are only ever slow if there is a 'mon on the screen and the device is trying to catch that.


MY PALE GOTH SKIN posted:

The biggest pain is charging it, and popping it in and out of the bracelet or pendant. Mine popped out of the bracelet last night, and I didn't notice it was gone for hours. I looked all through the house, nada. Finally went back to the store I went to last night, checked the parking lot. It was squished down into wet snow. I assumed it was bricked.

Nope. As soon as I got it dry enough on the outside to use the static switch, it connected. It was definitely run over a few times in addition to sitting in wet snow for 25 hours. I'm a fan.

Charging it I dont feel is an issue, as I'd rather charge than buy a battery. I do agree that with the stock wristband it pops out a lot. Mine popped out twice in a week, including yesterday in the snow and was buried for over 12 hours. Also managed to find it and it somehow still works. When I had an off brand wrist band it wasn't an issue. I recommend looking into one. I have this guy: https://www.amazon.com/CUMILO-Color...tcha+pokemon+go

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Modus Pwnens
Dec 29, 2004

Cowslips Warren posted:

So all the parks around here closed at 5pm today, but idiots are still out doing raids. gently caress there were a few EX passes at parks that were closed and had the gates barred, and people parked elsewhere and jumped the gate. I half wish someone had called the cops on the trespassers. Like seriously?

Who loving cares.

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