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Sunswipe posted:I'd love those if they stopped having Noel loving Fielding on them. It might be a volume thing since he only appears occasionally but I don't mind him on QI. Is there a good reason to dislike him or does he just rub you wrong?
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I appreciate British TV because your guys' stars aren't exclusively really attractive people but on the downside they're really hard to look at
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Dec 25, 2017 12:53
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ArtIsResistance posted:I appreciate British TV because your guys' stars aren't exclusively really attractive people but on the downside they're really hard to look at The downside is they're pretty much all upper class oxbridge toffs with connections to the right industry people. And they're more likely to be diddlers rather than merely having been diddled.
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Dec 25, 2017 13:07
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I just assume everyone who works on the entertainment side of the BBC is a child molester, and if it turns out they're not, it's a happy surprise.
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Dec 25, 2017 15:19
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After seeing Mel B on America's Got Talent for a couple seasons, I could not be less surprised that she didn't "get" the point of a satirical comedy show. Or of anything, really.
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Dec 25, 2017 15:58
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Milo and POTUS posted:It might be a volume thing since he only appears occasionally but I don't mind him on QI. Is there a good reason to dislike him or does he just rub you wrong? Noel's approach to humour can be kinda monkey cheese. I'm assuming that is the issue, although I find him quite charming sometimes However, I may be biased as I loved Mighty Boosh.
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Dec 25, 2017 16:02
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ArtIsResistance posted:I appreciate British TV because your guys' stars aren't exclusively really attractive people but on the downside they're really hard to look at 
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Dec 25, 2017 16:08
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Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:What makes it stranger is that Blakes 7 really had the same budget as the Tom Baker Doctor Who, so going from aliens to child molestation dystopia was one hell of a jump. Lower. Blakes 7 replaced a cop show and was required to have the same FX budget, which boiled down to like £50 an episode.
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Dec 25, 2017 16:45
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Milo and POTUS posted:It might be a volume thing since he only appears occasionally but I don't mind him on QI. Is there a good reason to dislike him or does he just rub you wrong? El Gallinero Gros posted:Noel's approach to humour can be kinda monkey cheese. I'm assuming that is the issue, although I find him quite charming sometimes
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Dec 26, 2017 01:04
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Sunswipe posted:It's pretty much this: Darkplace is a masterpiece though, everyone is great in it.
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Dec 26, 2017 01:48
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Whilst I do like and enjoy Noel Fielding, I much preferred Julian Barrat in the Mighty Boosh. I always thought I was in the minority in doing so.
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Dec 26, 2017 01:54
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BrigadierSensible posted:Whilst I do like and enjoy Noel Fielding, I much preferred Julian Barrat in the Mighty Boosh. I always thought I was in the minority in doing so. I definitely prefer Julian but they work crazy well together
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Dec 26, 2017 04:37
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Solice Kirsk posted:Much like all British television, nothing interesting or entertaining. It's a group of unfunny people getting upset that another unfunny person wasn't being the scripted unfunny they were trying to be. Basically like what QI would be if the US tried to adapt it. Just terrible. Network in the US decided to cancel the original "Police Squad!" for being too intellectually demanding. Do we really need to present any other evidence?
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Dec 26, 2017 16:30
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Der Kyhe posted:Network in the US decided to cancel the original "Police Squad!" for being too intellectually demanding. This sounded like somewhat of a joke to me, but the actual line is even more of a joke. Goddamn. quote:According to the DVD Commentary of "A Substantial Gift" (episode 1), then-ABC entertainment president Tony Thomopoulos said Police Squad! was cancelled because "the viewer had to watch it in order to appreciate it."
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Dec 26, 2017 16:35
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Police Squad's early end was a blessing to the showrunners because they felt they couldn't keep up such rapid-fire comedy on a weekly show.
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Dec 26, 2017 16:42
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Inescapable Duck posted:It's funny how Frasier and Niles are brothers only a few years apart but look about a decade apart, though David Hyde Pierce might just be one of those guys who always looks young. Not anymore, at least. These days he looks older than he actually is. Content: watched Gremlins 2 the other night. It's such a goofy over-the-top movie to begin with that it's tough to say it's aged poorly, but the camera-mad Japanese tourist sticks out like a sore thumb. Seeing outdated stereotypes in old movies is one thing but it's even more jarring when they're stereotypes that were current and fresh when you were growing up.
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Dec 26, 2017 17:06
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Police Squad's early end was a blessing to the showrunners because they felt they couldn't keep up such rapid-fire comedy on a weekly show. Then maybe, don't order/demand 20+ episodes at that pace? English/European one season is 4-10 episodes, usually for a reason.
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Dec 26, 2017 17:27
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Der Kyhe posted:Then maybe, don't order/demand 20+ episodes at that pace? Yeah, I used to get grumpy about Beeb shows only being 4-12 episodes but honestly it's for the best; more effort into each episode means higher quality for the most part, rather than rapid-fire making GBS threads out 22 episodes worth of Family Guy level jokes
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Dec 26, 2017 18:57
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On the other hand you have Sherlock which only did three feature-length episodes every two years and very quickly turned to dross. Hbomberguy made the point that the show had too much money and that they splashed out on pointless effects like a Matrix camera-trick for a wedding scene.
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Dec 26, 2017 19:13
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Inspector Gesicht posted:On the other hand you have Sherlock which only did three feature-length episodes every two years and very quickly turned to dross. Hbomberguy made the point that the show had too much money and that they splashed out on pointless effects like a Matrix camera-trick for a wedding scene. ... But it also created the Hercule Poirot (1989-2013) with David Suchet which despite the latter relapse into the more serious tone is still the gold standard of mystery novel series. Even with the new movies which try to reboot the series, it is impossible to read the books and not see the Suchet Poirot in action.
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Dec 26, 2017 19:19
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ITV has been doing new feature-length adaptations of Maigret stories with Rowan Atkinson. They only do two episodes per year. Suchet is the definitive Poirot for me in the same way Jeremy Brett is the definitive Sherlock Holmes and Maury Chaykin is the definitive Nero Wolfe.
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Dec 26, 2017 19:39
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There was a pretty neat Professor Branestawm TV Special last christmas that Starred Harry Hill. It was pretty funny, used some interesting stories to build it's central narrative around and had a satisfying ending. Only 1 episode.
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Dec 26, 2017 19:41
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Inspector Gesicht posted:On the other hand you have Sherlock which only did three feature-length episodes every two years and very quickly turned to dross.
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Dec 27, 2017 02:13
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Tiggum posted:It didn't turn to, it was bad from the beginning. Better examples are Red Dwarf or Jonathan Creek, which despite coming back for only a few episodes after multi-year breaks are still absolute garbage these days. Whether the seasons are 3 episodes or 52, sometimes a show's just run its course and should end. I think I only caught one season of the new Dwarf but if memory serves it should have ended a season sooner than it actually did
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Dec 27, 2017 02:24
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Len posted:I think I only caught one season of the new Dwarf but if memory serves it should have ended a season sooner than it actually did It should have ended with Series 6.
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Dec 27, 2017 02:30
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Rascar Capac posted:It should have ended with Series 6. Was that when Rimmer left or when they got back to the Dwarf?
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Dec 27, 2017 02:31
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TheKennedys posted:Yeah, I used to get grumpy about Beeb shows only being 4-12 episodes but honestly it's for the best; more effort into each episode means higher quality for the most part, rather than rapid-fire making GBS threads out 22 episodes worth of Family Guy level jokes My first exposure to British TV was The Good Life on PBS in the late 70s/early 80s. That show went for four series of seven episodes with two specials. While I wanted to see more, I felt they had told all the possible stories without repeating themselves. Each character got their own episode or two, while both couples got theirs. Same goes for my other favorites like Black Adder, The Young Ones, etc. My favorite US sitcoms like MASH, Cheers, Frasier, etc, could have easily been halved and still not have lost anything.
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Rascar Capac posted:It should have ended with Series 6. The last couple of seasons have been a new return to form
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Dec 27, 2017 02:33
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When Rimmer leaves the show and they add alternate universe Kristine Kochanski the whole premise falls apart.
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Dec 27, 2017 02:34
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Mister Kingdom posted:My favorite US sitcoms like MASH, Cheers, Frasier, etc, could have easily been halved and still not have lost anything. With longrunning US sitcoms, it is a better game to see how often they repeat a basic plot structure, or how often a major character learns the exact same lesson.
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Dec 27, 2017 03:00
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Len posted:Was that when Rimmer left or when they got back to the Dwarf? The one just before they get back to the Dwarf. As muscles like this! says, the premise completely changes. Losing half of the writing team can’t have helped, either.
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Dec 27, 2017 03:07
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Mister Kingdom posted:My first exposure to British TV was The Good Life on PBS in the late 70s/early 80s. That show went for four series of seven episodes with two specials. While I wanted to see more, I felt they had told all the possible stories without repeating themselves. Each character got their own episode or two, while both couples got theirs. Same goes for my other favorites like Black Adder, The Young Ones, etc. The fifth season of the original Upstairs, Downstairs was padded to 16 episodes because London Weekend begged for them (the previous four were 13 episodes each). The show had already been plotted out for the final series and it was a struggle to come up with material to fit in. Fawlty Towers had two series, space years apart and even as a VHS tape set, only take up a small part of my shelf. On the other hand, Are You Being Served had 69 episodes in 10 series. That was about eight series too many for that show.
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Dec 27, 2017 03:12
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e X posted:With longrunning US sitcoms, it is a better game to see how often they repeat a basic plot structure, or how often a major character learns the exact same lesson. Up through the end of the 60s, very rarely did characters learn anything. I mean, you'd think Darrin would have stopped mouthing off to Samantha's relatives in Bewitched.
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Dec 27, 2017 03:12
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muscles like this! posted:When Rimmer leaves the show and they add alternate universe Kristine Kochanski the whole premise falls apart. Indeed. Red Dwarf works best when they have six episodes per series. Stretching it to eight only resulted in madness and...well, wasn't very good.
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Dec 27, 2017 03:18
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Mister Kingdom posted:My favorite US sitcoms like MASH, Cheers, Frasier, etc, could have easily been halved and still not have lost anything. True in retrospect, but the really good episodes are spaced throughout and even the not-so-good episodes usually have at least one really good moment. MASH specifically only has a small handful of total stinkers out of like a billion episodes. You could certainly pack some of the good bits from multiple episodes together and make half as many though, sure.
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The Bloop posted:True in retrospect, but the really good episodes are spaced throughout and even the not-so-good episodes usually have at least one really good moment. MASH specifically only has a small handful of total stinkers out of like a billion episodes. As much as I love MASH as a whole (minus the final episode) most of the good episodes were pre-BJ's Mustache so really half of MASH can largely be put in the "meh" pile. e: The end of the Col. Flagg episodes is also a pretty good indication that the funny is largely declining. Maybe I just vastly prefer the style of early MASH, idk
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RC and Moon Pie posted:
This put me in mind of the series of Are You Being Served they did where they were all old people in, I think, the 90s. England had a little revival of doing that around that time. Think Last Of The Summer Wine etc. Where the joke was "hey, look at this great comedy character actopr you remember from a couple of decades ago. They're still alive! So lets put them in a lame lame show." There are exceptions, like One Foot in the Grave, where the joke is that he is old, but unlike the ones mentioned above, OFitG was funny, and touching, and Victor Meldrew is a glorious comic monster.
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Dec 27, 2017 08:11
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Straight White Shark posted:Not anymore, at least. These days he looks older than he actually is. Last Christmas I saw a bunch of Japanese tourists pile out of two buses and take pictures of the inside of a Wegmans the entire time we were shopping there I don't think I realized this was a stereotype though I just thought it was funny
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Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:Indeed. Red Dwarf works best when they have six episodes per series. Stretching it to eight only resulted in madness and...well, wasn't very good. The irony being that Red Dwarf VII and VIII were stretched to eight episodes at the behest of American TV networks, so they could have 52 episodes for syndication. As soon as Dave got hold of it and took it back to the UK style, it mysteriously became good again.
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Aesop Poprock posted:Last Christmas I saw a bunch of Japanese tourists pile out of two buses and take pictures of the inside of a Wegmans the entire time we were shopping there Yes, the first time I saw that happen I felt like someone was playing a joke on me. Stereotypes are usually based on a kernel of truth and some are based on a whole lot of truth.
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