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Dec 28, 2017 00:54
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ewe2 posted:
This should be on the new page as well Seriously, gently caress that guy
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Dec 28, 2017 00:54
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ewe2 posted:
The gently caress does this idiot need to talk to anyone about in regards to the tracker? It speaks for itself. I know the actual answer of course, considering this is the guy who thought the art on the refund subreddit was despicable, and who tried to reveal streetroller's personal details to an angry mob. I have never seen a single person here or anywhere else say this. Not even Derek has said that people livestreaming are faking it. No one needs to say this, it's loving broken garbage that runs, but on a wing (commander) and a prayer. I get that there's trying to be mature on the middle ground but holy poo poo guy we are 170 million into a game that only on rare occasions lets you put down a box.
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Dec 28, 2017 01:04
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Roberts turned opportunity costs into opportunities lost.
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Dec 28, 2017 01:05
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https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/12/27/watch-an-hour-of-star-citizens-campaign-squadron-42quote:Watch an hour of Star Citizen’s campaign, Squadron 42
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Dec 28, 2017 01:11
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Othin posted:Bomber Crew is really fun and is also an actual game you can play and show to friends and not be embarrassed unlike SC. I too have been enjoying Bomber Crew, thank you all for the recommendation. 
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Dec 28, 2017 01:24
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I hate these people. I hate these people so goddamn much.
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Dec 28, 2017 01:25
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Dark Off posted:this is one hell of a video. chris & erin roberts = the wrong brothers
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Dec 28, 2017 01:26
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I hadn’t had the cycles to really give the Squadron livestream a close watch until recently. This little moment struck me a little odd. Brian Chambers makes an unequivocal declaration that Hannes and his team are fully focused on Squadron 42, “not a shared resource at all.” And yet here is Hannes and his team on the speakerphone taking direction from Chris on the Sandworm demo being created for Gamescom 2016. A sandworm that Foundry 42 employees later said in Jump Point was “a joke.” A demo that had no palpable informational beyond hype generation during a fundraising event. A demo which took Foundry / CIG artists and devs weeks to create, weeks they couldve spent fully focused on the promised demo for the single player game they actually are on the hook to deliver. A demo they supposedly pulled 48 hours before Gamescom. But they got so close! Who, I wonder, was the audience for the erroneous claim? Coutts? Crytek’s lawyers? EDIT: Actually, maybe this is aimed at the British Tax authority, to convince them Squadron is still legitimately an Anglo-centered project that should qualify anew for its big rear end tax credit. The whole video is so strangely introductory that the intended audience is most definitely not the backers. EDIT #2: Now we know who the audience was — the investors to be named later! G0RF fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Dec 22, 2018 |
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Dec 28, 2017 01:29
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Krycek posted:I made it to 3:30 before my brain screamed "MAKE THE STUPID STOP" I had to stop when he turned his cap backwards.
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Dec 28, 2017 01:31
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eonwe posted:trump That's totally uncalled for. Probate him from rubbing.
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Dec 28, 2017 01:33
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juggalo baby coffin posted:uuuh what tech have they actually built though? they're just using cryengine, badly. This is what stands out to me as well. There's all this talk about incredible advances, huge leaps forward, but to someone who knows nothing of game development they don't seem to doing anything you couldn't do in CryEngine hacked to support 64 bit positioning. People that do know, is there anything else there? The stuff that will be genuinely groundbreaking, like dynamically partitioning players and physics simulations based on moment-to-moment load calculations, they appear to have done literally nothing on. A $175 million prototype-in-production.
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Dec 28, 2017 01:34
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Dec 28, 2017 01:46
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Hey did Sandi lose weight or something? She's lookin' p good
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Dec 28, 2017 01:47
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Shame on you. Comparing CIG to the cartoonishly unscrupulous and ruthless House Harkonnenn is an extremely unfair comparison. The Harkonnenns were competent.
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Dec 28, 2017 01:51
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Dark Off posted:this is one hell of a video. He has the dead eyes of a evangelist or MLM telemarketer, if they keep saying it then it might come true.
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Dec 28, 2017 01:51
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Please Mr Bootcha, may we have another video?
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Dec 28, 2017 01:53
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G0RF posted:Who, I wonder, was the audience for the erroneous claim? Coutts? Crytek’s lawyers? Both? "I'll give you $1 million if you put a worm in it" JOB DONE!!
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Dec 28, 2017 01:54
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ewe2 posted:"I'll give you $1 million if you put a worm in it" JOB DONE!! The Portlandia "put a bird on it" sketch but with sandworms
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Dec 28, 2017 01:56
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So my wife has caught up with the thread. She was only peripherally aware of this whole debacle through me, but for some reason she had time on her hands while I was at work, and she dove into the terrible secret of space. She made two points. Point 1: This has nothing to do with a space game. In her words: "I watched Chris Roberts, and he's a dork. He's a dork's dork. He looks weird, he sounds weird, he's overweight, clumsy, and socially awkward. But he made a game, made millions, got the "girl" (such as it is), has tons of adoring fans, and now he's taking on the establishment. Everything he's doing is the wet dream of every geek in the world who's considered themselves a hopeless underdog - if he can do it, so can they! And for that reason, they have to believe he can do this. Because if it turns out Chris Roberts lied - if he is a fraud - then that means he's not one of them. And that means there's no hope for them: to make the money, get the girl, and get acceptance. They'll stay in the bottom of the social bucket for the rest of their lives. So they believe." Point 2: Derek Smart is the hardest thing about this whole thing to believe. She was ready to believe that an autistic guy who got lucky decades ago and bought his own press came back to delude himself and others to the tune of $175 million. Easy to swallow. That thousands of fans are ready to doxx and kill anyone who disagrees with the commitment of that fraud - no problem - easy to believe. What she can't believe is that one man, who has nothing to do with this, decides "I'M GOING TO BURN THIS ALL DOWN" because of a very minor slight from the con artist, and has tirelessly committed literal years of his life with no rest to doing exactly that, like a down-syndrome terminator. Other than that, like most women, she sees through the scam rather easily. Now when I'm at work I get my updates from her. Poor Chris.  are immune to his scam. The irony is annihilating.
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Dec 28, 2017 02:02
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Honestly, for people saying Chris Roberts has any kind of charisma whatsoever, I think he has literally the same amount of it as this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVhHNVguMWo To be moreso accurate, what the shitizens are taken in (and what took me in initially a bit too, I'll admit) is the special FX and lights show of the demonstration videos during the earlier years. But the more and more that transformed into tech demos, and the less and less playable they got, the less and less 'charismatic' Chris Roberts looks. Until 2015, when somehow, surprise surprise, I perceived all his 'charisma' to evaporate together with the light and dance show becoming shittier. And also the points made above me of course, of how every angry bitter nerd wants to be him. But the only reason why that was the case was because I could admit to myself, that I hosed up and got 'took' by him to ever give any money to him, which led to my refund. Whereas, of course, the whales that insist on double-downing on this poo poo engage in sunk cost fallacy, while any new pledgers at this time (few as there likely are now that the tech demos are demonstrably horrible to play) do so because, once again, they believe the flashy lights and poo poo...which are incredibly inferior to something like E:D. In fact, it's likely that the only reason they don't just buy E:D instead of pledging for this at this point is that a) They haven't heard of it or b) They're the same as  and have gone full tribal on 90s nostalgia into the Wing Commander/Freelancer camp, despising all competition no matter how demonstrably superior it may be.
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Dec 28, 2017 02:16
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Scruffpuff posted:So my wife has caught up with the thread. She was only peripherally aware of this whole debacle through me, but for some reason she had time on her hands while I was at work, and she dove into the terrible secret of space. Derek Smart does actually have a day job where he makes video games. Still more playable than Star Citizen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnjHGuxa1Ws The video ends in the best way
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Dec 28, 2017 02:18
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Why would detractors claim that livestreamers are faking the 4-6 FPS unplayable mess that is 3.0 Jesus patch? What is this even?
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Dec 28, 2017 02:22
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Scruffpuff: what's so hard to believe about Derek? Derek loves to troll and he's trolled Roberts right into creating this dichotomy, that's partly why Roberts' scam is working. Derek knows this and enjoys the irony of it. The entire industry knows what Roberts is like, he was either going to fluke his vision or fall to his own hubris. Everyone knows what Derek is like, he doesn't back down and frankly this is the best semi-retirement present he could ever get.
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Dec 28, 2017 02:24
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CrazyLoon posted:Why would detractors claim that livestreamers are faking the 4-6 FPS unplayable mess that is 3.0 Jesus patch? What is this even? Detractors are claiming that all the awesome, mind-blowing, fidelitious, never-done-before gameplay that they're seeing is faked
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Dec 28, 2017 02:29
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ewe2 posted:Scruffpuff: what's so hard to believe about Derek? Derek loves to troll and he's trolled Roberts right into creating this dichotomy, that's partly why Roberts' scam is working. Derek knows this and enjoys the irony of it. The entire industry knows what Roberts is like, he was either going to fluke his vision or fall to his own hubris. Everyone knows what Derek is like, he doesn't back down and frankly this is the best semi-retirement present he could ever get. It's hard to believe if you've never heard of either of them. This looks insane from a gamer's perspective - it's easy to forget how it looks from even farther outside.
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Dec 28, 2017 02:30
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Republicanus posted:Good afternoon to all the SC fans who impotently read this thread and furiously post about Derek Smart and Goons "ruining everything'. suddenly I want to go read the Star Trek Online thread. I never played the game and have no plans to but the stories of rage involving fire extinguishers and disco balls are gold
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Dec 28, 2017 02:32
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ewe2 posted:Scruffpuff: what's so hard to believe about Derek? Derek loves to troll and he's trolled Roberts right into creating this dichotomy, that's partly why Roberts' scam is working. Derek knows this and enjoys the irony of it. The entire industry knows what Roberts is like, he was either going to fluke his vision or fall to his own hubris. Everyone knows what Derek is like, he doesn't back down and frankly this is the best semi-retirement present he could ever get. 
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Dec 28, 2017 02:36
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tooterfish posted:Shame on you. Comparing CIG to the cartoonishly unscrupulous and ruthless House Harkonnenn is an extremely unfair comparison. Shame? I have none. 
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Dec 28, 2017 02:39
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I hate these people. I hate these people so goddamn much. Don’t have such hate, friend.  Take my hand and just laugh without feeling somehow obligated to hating anybody. Probably most of them are right nice guys outside of Star Citizen! 
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Dec 28, 2017 02:45
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Scruffpuff posted:It's hard to believe if you've never heard of either of them. This looks insane from a gamer's perspective - it's easy to forget how it looks from even farther outside. True, it's really an internet story. It probably also needs a certain gate-related internet story to explain some of the animus of the more wretched of the citizens. As Garriott said in that Spector master class, the industry basically ran out these guys because their big egos can't sustain big titles and a bunch of throwbacks can't compute this, they think Roberts will save gaming but the past is past. No amount of talent is worth any amount of ego any more. I think Derek knows himself and Roberts better than Roberts would ever admit about himself.
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Dec 28, 2017 02:48
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Swapping over to a SSD successfully got Star Citizen to run. I managed to get around 20 FPS on my GTX770 on minimal settings... so long as I did nothing and avoided other people. I didn't bother trying a mission or anything, but at least I've played 3.0 more than Tarkaroshe.
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Dec 28, 2017 02:52
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Scruffpuff posted:So my wife has caught up with the thread. She was only peripherally aware of this whole debacle through me, but for some reason she had time on her hands while I was at work, and she dove into the terrible secret of space.  this is all so great.Your wife is dead-on about Chris’s appeal to the fanboys. For the older ones, the ones who upon whom Wing Commander made so powerful an emotional impact due to the timing quirks of their own young, “I want to fly spaceships and have adventures!” impressionability and Chris’s serendipitously timed arrival at exactly the right studio and exactly the right moment, there’s an additional element of deep emotional gratitude. The longing to see this fun wizard of their childhood thrive because they’re thankful for the feelings / memories / escape his games gave them is reinforced and fortified by Chris Roberts’s accessibility and personal affability. His availability to fans at these events rewards and reinforces that gratitude. His generosity of spirit in such instances is pretty real; you can see it in fan photos where Chris has HIS arm around the fans’ shoulders and the big goofy “meet my best bud” smile in the photos he’s taking with random customers. There’s an intimacy there that you’d never see with a lot of other big names in gaming and it’s meaningful. An ego-gratifying symbiosis with real power. For Roberts, who really has had a roller-coaster life with seasons of famine and of feasting, having the reinforcements of rock star adulation is surely a balm for the soul. Given his wife’s own unmistakeable disinterest in the industry and her discounting of the significance of Wing Commander in its historical context, the deep admiring validation that erupts from the fanboys probably carries extra power. If there was a /fanboysmirin subreddit, Chris and the citizenry would dominate it from all the moments of earnest affection exchanged. I don’t say that disparagingly, I think it’s actually something Chris does right and with largely authentic warmth. Shame about the lying and mercenary fleecing but hey, nobody’s perfect! :/ 
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Dec 28, 2017 02:57
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ewe2 posted:Scruffpuff: what's so hard to believe about Derek? Derek loves to troll and he's trolled Roberts right into creating this dichotomy, that's partly why Roberts' scam is working. Derek knows this and enjoys the irony of it. The entire industry knows what Roberts is like, he was either going to fluke his vision or fall to his own hubris. Everyone knows what Derek is like, he doesn't back down and frankly this is the best semi-retirement present he could ever get. It’s like going to McDonald’s once and having a bad experience and dedicating your life day and night to destroying the Ronald McDonald empire. I personally don’t get why he does it, but it’s funny enough. I agree with Scruffpuffs wife on her points. But I’m not the target audience either so it’s probably easier for women to not get “involved”. This is very much a boys party.
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Dec 28, 2017 02:57
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bbchops posted:This is what stands out to me as well. There's all this talk about incredible advances, huge leaps forward, but to someone who knows nothing of game development they don't seem to doing anything you couldn't do in CryEngine hacked to support 64 bit positioning. People that do know, is there anything else there? They have revolutionized a crowd funding engine. Not a video game though.
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Dec 28, 2017 03:01
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The Titanic posted:It’s like going to McDonald’s once and having a bad experience and dedicating your life day and night to destroying the Ronald McDonald empire. For what it's worth, Derek has become something of a folk hero for my wife now - she's a redhead and 100% agrees with his scorched earth policy. I have seen it in effect first-hand, many times. If this had been her getting a refund and attacked in an 8-hour diatribe, we'd be living the same story right now with a slightly different cast of characters.
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Dec 28, 2017 03:01
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Alchenar posted:Derek Smart does actually have a day job where he makes video games.
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Dec 28, 2017 03:03
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CrazyLoon posted:Why would detractors claim that livestreamers are faking the 4-6 FPS unplayable mess that is 3.0 Jesus patch? What is this even? I’ve heard people call the amazing non playable segments that look great but never get into anybody’s hands fake. I’ve never heard anybody say something a live streamer is playing was fake though. Maybe the guy is confusing these “totally real press segments” as live-streaming, despite the fact the game they show never makes it outside of that CIG video. 
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Dec 28, 2017 03:06
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Goosfraba posted:Shame? I have none. Please, you don't have to do this, you have people who care about you.
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Scruffpuff posted:For what it's worth, Derek has become something of a folk hero for my wife now - she's a redhead and 100% agrees with his scorched earth policy. If she wants to know more about the fabled hero, point her to... the blogs. I don’t think she’d be as good as Derek though. He’s been doing this, almost non stop daily, for like 4 years.
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