|
BrigadierSensible posted:This put me in mind of the series of Are You Being Served they did where they were all old people in, I think, the 90s.
|
#
?
Dec 27, 2017 17:09
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 24, 2024 06:38 |
|
|
Straight White Shark posted:Not anymore, at least. These days he looks older than he actually is. While this is absolutely an outdated stereotype, I think it's funny that the old stereotype of the camera-happy japanese tourist who just takes photos of everything and anything now pretty much applies to any first world tourist following phones with good cameras becoming the norm.
|
|
#
?
Dec 27, 2017 18:36
|
|
|
Danger - Octopus! posted:While this is absolutely an outdated stereotype, I think it's funny that the old stereotype of the camera-happy japanese tourist who just takes photos of everything and anything now pretty much applies to any first world tourist following phones with good cameras becoming the norm. So you think we're turning Japanese?
|
|
#
?
Dec 27, 2017 18:59
|
|
|
Krispy Wafer posted:So you think we're turning Japanese? I really think so.
|
|
#
?
Dec 27, 2017 19:51
|
|
|
BrigadierSensible posted:This put me in mind of the series of Are You Being Served they did where they were all old people in, I think, the 90s. It also had a really weird premise where a bunch of people who worked together now live together as they all as a group inherited a house in the country.
|
|
#
?
Dec 27, 2017 21:12
|
|
|
There's talk about bring Mad About You back
|
|
#
?
Dec 27, 2017 21:22
|
|
|
Davros1 posted:There's talk about bring Mad About You back This isn't the 'People You're Ashamed to Find Hot' thread, but boy I liked Helen Hunt. That would be the most pointless show to bring back. I know it was incredibly popular, but I can not recall a single plot line.
|
|
#
?
Dec 27, 2017 21:31
|
|
|
Krispy Wafer posted:This isn't the 'People You're Ashamed to Find Hot' thread, but boy I liked Helen Hunt. Nothing to be ashamed about there.
|
|
#
?
Dec 27, 2017 21:33
|
|
|
The British need to get on board with calling them seasons already. I know doing things the hard way to preserve the unique culture of Knifecrime Island is basically their national pastime at this point, but they've got netflix same as the rest of us.
|
|
#
?
Dec 28, 2017 01:25
|
|
|
Davros1 posted:There's talk about bring Mad About You back FFS Paul Reiser being on Stranger Things 2 is NOT an open season on giving him a career back.
|
|
#
?
Dec 28, 2017 01:26
|
|
|
Danger - Octopus! posted:While this is absolutely an outdated stereotype, I think it's funny that the old stereotype of the camera-happy japanese tourist who just takes photos of everything and anything now pretty much applies to any first world tourist following phones with good cameras becoming the norm. I think it kind of always did, the stereotype tends to shift depending on which country's got enough wealthy people to afford vacations and cameras going to (to them) exotic places, and usually Hawaiian shirts to go with. And of course, now it's absolutely everybody.
|
|
#
?
Dec 28, 2017 03:01
|
|
|
Nutsngum posted:FFS Paul Reiser being on Stranger Things 2 is NOT an open season on giving him a career back. I'd be happy if there was an anthology where Paul Reiser's character dies every week. Though honestly he wasn't that hateable on Mad About You, just kind of bland and inoffensive, or maybe that was because I was a pubescent boy with a crush on Helen Hunt.
|
|
#
?
Dec 28, 2017 03:12
|
|
|
Inescapable Duck posted:I think it kind of always did, the stereotype tends to shift depending on which country's got enough wealthy people to afford vacations and cameras going to (to them) exotic places, and usually Hawaiian shirts to go with. And of course, now it's absolutely everybody. Yeah, but the Japanese are also known for their cameras. The Swiss probably wear nicer watches than the average person, the French drink more wine, and Americans probably own more guns.
|
|
#
?
Dec 28, 2017 03:21
|
|
|
Krispy Wafer posted:Yeah, but the Japanese are also known for their cameras. Probably?
|
|
#
?
Dec 28, 2017 03:36
|
|
|
Nutsngum posted:FFS Paul Reiser being on Stranger Things 2 is NOT an open season on giving him a career back. Why would he go back to a lovely sitcom that was bland and annoying to begin with? poo poo, if you're in a big Netflix production, why not say 'gee, my role in Aliens could be revisited, why not do that?' Why aim low with a sitcom that only existed because it was one of those Thursday night horrors that lasted for years because it was stuck between two hits? Paul Reiser has gotten older. But apparently, he has gotten dumber as well.
|
|
#
?
Dec 28, 2017 04:30
|
|
|
He'll show up because NBC will pay him big bucks for the most milquetoast, low effort poo poo.
|
|
#
?
Dec 28, 2017 04:38
|
|
|
Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:Why would he go back to a lovely sitcom that was bland and annoying to begin with? poo poo, if you're in a big Netflix production, why not say 'gee, my role in Aliens could be revisited, why not do that?' Why aim low with a sitcom that only existed because it was one of those Thursday night horrors that lasted for years because it was stuck between two hits? He was getting paid a million per episode for that show. In his mind he thinks it was a cultural touchstone. Only thing I remember from that show is Phoebe from Friends meeting Ursula from Mad About You.
|
|
#
?
Dec 28, 2017 04:39
|
|
|
I remember that every single character in that show barring Helen Hunt and the dog Murray were supremely annoying and unfunny Also the finale was super bad and the only funny thing was that it starred Jeannine [sic] Garofalo [sic] making a movie titled “Stabbing Bob” or something like that And again they lived in a gorgeous New York apartment with what I assume were two intensely mediocre salaries
|
|
#
?
Dec 28, 2017 04:51
|
|
|
Last Chance posted:I've been watching The Norm Show and there are some good jokes, and I don't think it's terrible, but there's a shitton of gay panic it's kind of crazy just how dated gay-panic jokes have become. for a long time gay characters main comedic purpose was to just be "gay" and that was enough to be funny; they mainly existed just to be farcically be mistaken of hitting on one of the main characters even the stuff that seemed non-homophobic, like that toy collector character on The Simpsons, in retrospect seem to be incredibly one-dimensional.
|
|
#
?
Dec 28, 2017 05:14
|
|
|
Tumble posted:it's kind of crazy just how dated gay-panic jokes have become. for a long time gay characters main comedic purpose was to just be "gay" and that was enough to be funny; they mainly existed just to be farcically be mistaken of hitting on one of the main characters Your post is about LGBT people, but for me it the one-dimensionality you mention is most noticable about race. Characters exist just to be a different race to the White protagonists. Then they can have an episode where the X race people are harrassed/discriminated against by racists, and the great White protagonists can prove they are not racist, and really are good people. See, they have X race friends. The non whites are never seen or spoken of again after that episode. For example. Years and years ago, (pre Toadfish so it was that long ago), Neighbours had an Asian family move in to Ramsay St. They had the token arc of some racists being mean to them, and the daughter getting bullied at school. This allowed all the regulars to show how cool and non racist they were. I had hope taht these people would become actual characters, and I remember a plotline of the daughter stealing one of the regular characters boyfriend or something. I thought that was cool, as it showed a non-white character doing something and having actual agency and relevance in a storyline. But it never went anywhere, then that family quietly moved away and was not heard from again. I know this example isn't perfect. Because due to teh nature of soaps, characters come and go willy nilly, and one can never expect intelligent plot points from Neighbours. But I hope my point still stands.
|
|
#
?
Dec 28, 2017 06:19
|
|
|
BrigadierSensible posted:Neighbours If we're on the topic, my favourite Neighbours tactic is to hire non-white actors who are just objectively terrible at acting (I mean even by comparison to the rest of the cast), make the characters super whiny and annoying, and then get rid of them not long after so they can say "look, we totally had non-whites, but the characters didn't test well", and repeat six months later when people start to point out how white it is again.
|
|
#
?
Dec 28, 2017 07:20
|
|
|
Calaveron posted:I remember that every single character in that show barring Helen Hunt and the dog Murray were supremely annoying and unfunny Paul Reiser was a documentary filmmaker, and Helen Hunt did something wiki isn't being helpful.
|
|
#
?
Dec 28, 2017 07:28
|
|
|
Tumble posted:it's kind of crazy just how dated gay-panic jokes have become. for a long time gay characters main comedic purpose was to just be "gay" and that was enough to be funny; they mainly existed just to be farcically be mistaken of hitting on one of the main characters Slight tangent, but it got me thinking about William Dafoes character in Boondock Saints being gay but it never really being a plot point other then showing him hes also an rear end in a top hat in bed. Then again, havent seen that movie in a decade so I might be wrong.
|
|
#
?
Dec 28, 2017 08:12
|
|
|
Nutsngum posted:Slight tangent, but it got me thinking about William Dafoes character in Boondock Saints being gay but it never really being a plot point other then showing him hes also an rear end in a top hat in bed. Then again, havent seen that movie in a decade so I might be wrong. Doesn't the end of the movie have him dressing as a woman in order to seduce and blow a guard or something? e: The scene in question oh, it should be kinda obvious based on context but probably a bit  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgZ5dV6JK5I It doesn't actually get very far before he just kills the guy. Garrand has a new favorite as of 08:31 on Dec 28, 2017 |
|
#
?
Dec 28, 2017 08:25
|
|
|
Tumble posted:it's kind of crazy just how dated gay-panic jokes have become. for a long time gay characters main comedic purpose was to just be "gay" and that was enough to be funny; they mainly existed just to be farcically be mistaken of hitting on one of the main characters I just started watching through Arrested Development again, and the amount of questionable lines and jokes along the lines of gay panic/wacky gay antics is actually quite surprising. It's amazing how much more acceptable that sorta stuff was even in the 2000's. The Tobias jokes are pretty much still ok, but there's still a bunch of other stuff that just seems...off. Still a great show, but of course it now also has the stigma of Jeffery Tambor on it.
|
|
#
?
Dec 28, 2017 08:53
|
|
|
zzzap
|
|
#
?
Dec 28, 2017 08:55
|
|
|
ScentOfAnOtaku posted:I just started watching through Arrested Development again, and the amount of questionable lines and jokes along the lines of gay panic/wacky gay antics is actually quite surprising. It's amazing how much more acceptable that sorta stuff was even in the 2000's. The Tobias jokes are pretty much still ok, but there's still a bunch of other stuff that just seems...off. The Arrested Development gay jokes are, I think, different because they aren't making fun of Tobias for being gay, they are making fun of him for being closeted. The show itself posits that there is nothing wrong or shameful, or bad about being gay, but it's funny that this character thinks that being gay is a thing he needs to hide, and hide badly.
|
|
#
?
Dec 28, 2017 09:13
|
|
|
Yeah, like I said, the Tobias stuff seems fine so far. I think Barry's assistant, Hot Cops, random drops of flamer/homo/etc. not so much.
|
|
#
?
Dec 28, 2017 09:43
|
|
|
The Are You Being Served thing about the pussy talk just made me think of this: I was watching a Christmas episode of Welcome Back, Kotter for a few minutes a couple of days ago and there's an exchange where he and his wife/gf/whatever are exchanging gifts. He gives her a Christmas Tree, she gives him a Hanukkah Bush. Wife: "I love your tree." Kotter: "I love your bush." No laughtrack, no nothing, it just was said and was they moved right on. I don't even know if it was an intentional innuendo thing that slipped past the censors or if he literally was only referring to the plant, but I just started thinking that in a modern show that would be a showcase joke. We'd have reaction to the comment, audience laughter, etc.
|
|
#
?
Dec 28, 2017 11:54
|
|
|
JediTalentAgent posted:The Are You Being Served thing about the pussy talk just made me think of this: I was watching a Christmas episode of Welcome Back, Kotter for a few minutes a couple of days ago and there's an exchange where he and his wife/gf/whatever are exchanging gifts. One easy rule of thumb: If its not live broadcast, its always intentional.
|
|
#
?
Dec 28, 2017 12:02
|
|
|
Wow, I now pronounce you chuck and larry is really really bad. Even the "oh look at the opression gay people feel" is just hamfisted.
|
|
#
?
Dec 28, 2017 12:03
|
|
|
Davros1 posted:There's talk about bring Mad About You back All I remember about that show is that it was like watching an incredibly milquetoast Woody Allen movie but without any of the charm only a nattering paedophile can bring.
|
|
#
?
Dec 28, 2017 12:28
|
|
|
Len posted:Probably? Yeah, no "probably" about it. I remember the storming of the Branch Davidian compound, and hysterical reports declaring that there were 2.5 guns for every man, woman and child in the group. This becomes much less of a thing when you learn that in Texas in 1993 there were three privately owned guns for every citizen in the state. When the average American owns more guns than an apocalyptic death cultist, you can't really say you don't have a problem.
|
|
#
?
Dec 28, 2017 12:33
|
|
|
Nutsngum posted:Wow, I now pronounce you chuck and larry is really really bad. Even the "oh look at the opression gay people feel" is just hamfisted. lol are you in Australia? What a way for the network to celebrate legalizing gay marriage.
|
|
#
?
Dec 28, 2017 12:49
|
|
|
Documentary film maker is the biggest TV character professional cop-out since lifestyle reporter. That show really was terrible. Wasn't the guy from Spin City in that as an agoraphobic who later found love? The show is slowly coming back to me and I'm not liking what I'm remembering. I watched a Brady Bunch Christmas and that was just a smorgasbord of poo poo no one does anymore. Like going to travel agents and then travel agents calling your bank to verify your check. Or needed to go out and rent beds for when all the kids come to visit (because inflatable mattresses didn't exist yet). In the end Mike Brady is left to die in a collapsed building until Christmas Carols revive him and he stumbles out to a cheering crowd of reporters, family, bystanders, and rescue workers who were not going to risk their lives going in after him. It was an incredible TV movie. Len posted:Probably? I'm pretty sure Somalia has more guns per capita. But I could be wrong.
|
|
#
?
Dec 28, 2017 13:17
|
|
|
ScentOfAnOtaku posted:I just started watching through Arrested Development again, and the amount of questionable lines and jokes along the lines of gay panic/wacky gay antics is actually quite surprising. It's amazing how much more acceptable that sorta stuff was even in the 2000's. The Tobias jokes are pretty much still ok, but there's still a bunch of other stuff that just seems...off. It's been a while since I watched through Arrested Development, but I think most of Tobias's gay entendre also doubled to insinuate he is an albino black man.
|
|
#
?
Dec 28, 2017 13:44
|
|
|
Jedit posted:Yeah, no "probably" about it. I remember the storming of the Branch Davidian compound, and hysterical reports declaring that there were 2.5 guns for every man, woman and child in the group. This becomes much less of a thing when you learn that in Texas in 1993 there were three privately owned guns for every citizen in the state. When the average American owns more guns than an apocalyptic death cultist, you can't really say you don't have a problem. That's not how gun ownership actually works though. The vast majority of Americans own 0 guns, then there's another group of people who only own 1 gun, and then there's a tiny tiny amount of people who own 20+ guns each. This throws off the average. The average American owns no guns.
|
|
#
?
Dec 28, 2017 15:09
|
|
|
Krispy Wafer posted:Documentary film maker is the biggest TV character professional cop-out since lifestyle reporter. That show really was terrible. Wasn't the guy from Spin City in that as an agoraphobic who later found love? The show is slowly coming back to me and I'm not liking what I'm remembering. The one thing everybody should remember about Mad About You is that its popularity came right before people started ditching free TV for the Internet and basic cable. NBC put out a remarkable amount of lovely, long-running TV by sticking it in between more popular TV shows and the thought was 'I'd might as well let this play so I don't miss Seinfeld/Friends/Cheers/etc.' It's remarkable in a way because you don't see that anymore. The paradigm changed so having gap shows like that no longer work. So you have shows that ran for an obscenely long period of time but in all honesty shouldn't have. Also...renting beds was a thing? Jesus. I wonder how good they were. I would be more scared of them not being cleaned well enough or being really cheap pieces of poo poo.
|
|
#
?
Dec 28, 2017 15:36
|
|
|
WampaLord posted:That's not how gun ownership actually works though. Well that works both ways. Maybe it was just one dude in the Branch Davidian who had a bunch of guns. You ever think of that?
|
|
#
?
Dec 28, 2017 15:45
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 24, 2024 06:38 |
|
|
LIVE AMMO ROLEPLAY posted:lol are you in Australia? What a way for the network to celebrate legalizing gay marriage. Yes. It was on in the background whilst playing my mother and sister in scrabble. I won despite the awful obnoxious gay jokes coming thick and fast. The only thing worst then the ham fisted message was Rob Schneiders awful asian stereotype character. No Rob Schneider, being part Filipno does not give you an open ticket to impersonate Mickey Rooney.
|
|
#
?
Dec 28, 2017 16:17
|
|