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withak posted:Wasn't he the brogrammer whose gym bag the main character trips over at the beginning? Ohhh, that’s right. I forgot about the gym bag part. But if he was a gym bro he got what he deserved.
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# ? Jan 1, 2018 19:20 |
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LadyPictureShow posted:Ohhh, that’s right. I forgot about the gym bag part. But if he was a gym bro he got what he deserved. he violated the fire code (blocking egress). you can't run around breaking the law and not expect it to catch up with you
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# ? Jan 1, 2018 19:27 |
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This season largely sucked. Here’s my write up from the GBS thread.facebook jihad posted:I binged most of the season tonight and thought it was pretty awful honestly. I mean, each episode on its own was decent entertainment; but none of it really felt like Black Mirror. Definitely the worst season by a huge margin.
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# ? Jan 1, 2018 19:35 |
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Oh my loving god, how many people are actually going to say that the people in the office "deserved" what happened to them and when the hell are we going to get past the overplayed Meth Damon/Fat Damon nicknames? The dystopia is definitely right here, it's not even in the episodes.
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# ? Jan 1, 2018 19:42 |
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Bicyclops posted:Oh my loving god, how many people are actually going to say that the people in the office "deserved" what happened to them and when the hell are we going to get past the overplayed Meth Damon/Fat Damon nicknames? The dystopia is definitely right here, it's not even in the episodes. not all of them, and none of them deserved torture, but the front desk woman and the airline clerk from nosedive deserved bad things, yes
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# ? Jan 1, 2018 19:44 |
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maskenfreiheit posted:not all of them, and none of them deserved torture, but the front desk woman and the airline clerk from nosedive deserved bad things, yes Yeah, and how did one of the McPoyles become a CEO? Totally unbelievable.
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# ? Jan 1, 2018 19:50 |
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The CEO deserved it because he treated METH DAMON like poo poo and created a culture in the office where it was okay to show the CTO disrespect. Cole deserved it because she was an rear end-kissing bitch who was one step away from opening her mouth to suck her way up the promotion chain. Receptionist deserved it for being a horrible first thing anyone saw when getting to that office. Gym bag deserved it because everyone hates that guy in real life already. Indian guy, black dude, black chick were all cool and didn't deserve it. Tommy didn't do poo poo other than be the son of an rear end in a top hat so he didn't deserve it. But none of us deserved that horribly written episode as it was. Someone should have read the script and said: "our audience isn't loving stupid, let's edit this so they don't tear it apart constantly."
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# ? Jan 1, 2018 19:54 |
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Was the guy from Black Museum a famous voice actor? It feels like I've heard him talking in a video game before. He also sounds kinda like James Urbaniak (Henry Fool, Venture Bros.) which is funny
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# ? Jan 1, 2018 19:55 |
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Waltzing Along posted:The CEO deserved it because he treated METH DAMON like poo poo and created a culture in the office where it was okay to show the CTO disrespect. Whenever I consider a character too monstrous for reality, I'll remember this post.
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# ? Jan 1, 2018 19:56 |
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precision posted:Was the guy from Black Museum a famous voice actor? It feels like I've heard him talking in a video game before. He also sounds kinda like James Urbaniak (Henry Fool, Venture Bros.) which is funny http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0388061/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t20 Nope, he's only had like 2 voice acting credits and one is for an animated movie and the other is for a cartoon from 1999. He was really good, and yea, I agree on his voice kinda sounding like Rusty Venture.
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# ? Jan 1, 2018 20:00 |
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Waltzing Along posted:The CEO deserved it because he treated METH DAMON like poo poo and created a culture in the office where it was okay to show the CTO disrespect. You're a loving sociopath and no one deserves that poo poo.
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# ? Jan 1, 2018 20:03 |
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Bicyclops posted:Oh my loving god, how many people are actually going to say that the people in the office "deserved" what happened to them and when the hell are we going to get past the overplayed Meth Damon/Fat Damon nicknames? The dystopia is definitely right here, it's not even in the episodes. That’s not my point. The lady explains they all did something to wrong him when explaining his motivations to the protagonist, but then doesn’t go into all the reasons. It’s not a ‘they deserve torture because they were bad’ when the episode explains this point in exposition. Also the last lines before the CEO blows up were confusing. ‘Yeah I treated you like poo poo, but fuuuuuuck youuuu!’. Pretty much sums up the episode.
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# ? Jan 1, 2018 20:08 |
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WampaLord posted:http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0388061/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t20 i figured it out, he sounds like Garrus from Mass Effect (but isn't him)
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# ? Jan 1, 2018 20:11 |
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I loved the guy in Black Museum, just hamming it up. He also worked for the same company that developed San Junipero, so we really did that technology in its early days
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# ? Jan 1, 2018 20:25 |
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DoctorWhat posted:You're a loving sociopath and no one deserves that poo poo. Good thing "no one" got it, because AI aren't people.
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# ? Jan 1, 2018 20:29 |
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So my take on Metalhead is that it's not actually a post-apocalyptic scenario at all, all the technology in the episode is functional and in perfect working condition including utilities like internet and plumbing. The properties the woman breaks into aren't even dusty. The characters are just run-of-the-mill homeless people who need to steal stuff from a warehouse and they get loving murdered by Amazon dot com's Automated Loss Prevention Unit because what if capitalism but even more too much. "There used to be pigs here" is just a reference to traditional methods of farming/ranching being phased out because factory farming is so much more efficient that the old methods are no longer economically viable on any level. I'm sure someone has already posted a theory like this but when I first read the thread I had only watched up to Hang the DJ so welp. My power ranking after having finished the season: 1. USS Callister 2. Black Museum 3. Hang the DJ 4. Metalhead 5. Arkangel 6. Crocodile I only really enjoyed Callister and Black Museum. Hang the DJ was ok, but felt kind of trite, and Metalhead got a little better in retrospect but I didn't really enjoy it when I watched it. Arkangel was meh and I legitimately regret watching Crocodile and if you're reading this post having not yet watched it just loving skip it. Whatever you're imagining an episode named Crocodile is about is better than what it actually is. Valeyard posted:I loved the guy in Black Museum, just hamming it up. He also worked for the same company that developed San Junipero, so we really did that technology in its early days Yeah I liked that the company that is responsible for creating Heaven basically did so by subjecting god knows how many people to unthinkable, hellish torture. monkey needs a hug Chillgamesh fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Jan 1, 2018 |
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Grem posted:Good thing "no one" got it, because AI aren't people. The episode says the AIs are people, so they are. Take poo poo at face value and engage your withered, dried-out sense of empathy for once in your husk of a life. And even if they weren't - the cruelty itself is monstrous, regardless of the target.
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# ? Jan 1, 2018 20:35 |
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Chillgamesh posted:So my take on Metalhead is that it's not actually a post-apocalyptic scenario at all, all the technology in the episode is functional and in perfect working condition including utilities like internet and plumbing. The properties the woman breaks into aren't even dusty. The characters are just run-of-the-mill homeless people who need to steal stuff from a warehouse and they get loving murdered by Amazon dot com's Automated Loss Prevention Unit because what if capitalism but even more too much. Doesn't make sense with the two suicides she found in the house. They obviously killed themselves because some poo poo went down that they didn't want to be around for. The reason stuff still works is because it had to for the plot.
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# ? Jan 1, 2018 20:36 |
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DoctorWhat posted:The episode says the AIs are people, so they are. Take poo poo at face value and engage your withered, dried-out sense of empathy for once in your husk of a life. I don't let some TV episode tell me how to run my life, duder.
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# ? Jan 1, 2018 20:41 |
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Do you frequently engage in tormenting artificial intelligence for personal catharsis?
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# ? Jan 1, 2018 20:42 |
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spudsbuckley posted:Doesn't make sense with the two suicides she found in the house. They obviously killed themselves because some poo poo went down that they didn't want to be around for. The reason stuff still works is because it had to for the plot. Metalhead They could've commit suicide for any reason. The couple died recently enough to stink and rot, meaning that if there was an apocalypse it would have had to have been relatively recent, which is inconsistent with everything else shown in the episode - everything's in working condition, nothing's out of order. Nothing's looted, no fires burning on the horizon. Another thing is where the woman thinks a society where everyone's a pig would better than the society they have - an equal society of paupers is better than one where corporate drones senselessly murder people over teddy bears.
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# ? Jan 1, 2018 20:43 |
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Grem posted:I don't let some TV episode tell me how to run my life, duder. You're a sociopath.
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# ? Jan 1, 2018 20:45 |
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DoctorWhat posted:Do you frequently engage in tormenting artificial intelligence for personal catharsis? I name my XCOM characters after people who have slighted me in minor ways then don't free them from those snake things that grab them and evac without them. I like to think they're still wrapped up when I pass out from my sad ambien almost-overdose.
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# ? Jan 1, 2018 20:45 |
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you're out of your loving mind
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# ? Jan 1, 2018 20:46 |
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Welcome to the squad, DoctorWhat
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# ? Jan 1, 2018 20:47 |
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First thing I'm going to do in the future is torture the digital consciousness of DoctorWhat and Bicyclops by removing their posting and viewing privileges. I Have No Keyboard And I Must Scream
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# ? Jan 1, 2018 21:05 |
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What if the characters in the first episode are unreliable narrators?!
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# ? Jan 1, 2018 21:09 |
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DoctorWhat posted:The episode says the AIs are people, so they are. Take poo poo at face value and engage your withered, dried-out sense of empathy for once in your husk of a life. How are they people? Cookies are systematically not treated as people, and while they seem to have limited rights (e.g. no termination for Monkey) they are not "people."
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# ? Jan 1, 2018 21:14 |
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Xenaul posted:How are they people? Cookies are systematically not treated as people, and while they seem to have limited rights (e.g. no termination for Monkey) they are not "people." I'm not talking about the in-universe civil liberties struggle, I'm talking about the loving language of storytelling and basic goddamn human empathy.
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# ? Jan 1, 2018 21:15 |
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Oh I get it. The "Black Museum is just a metaphor for Black Mirror and isn't actually canon" argument is because it says they have to give the cookies rights in that episode, so that prevents creepy goons from having torture fantasies.
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# ? Jan 1, 2018 21:18 |
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Canon is fake and is the domain of pea-brains.
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# ? Jan 1, 2018 21:22 |
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Trying to work out a chronology for Black mirror, or link ALL the episodes together in a consistent and satisfying way is just gonna drive you crazy. The links and references between episodes always seemed to me to be more of easter eggs than any indication of an actual shared universe, especially considering some episodes seem to take place in wildly different post apocalyptic scenarios. Really you can only really count 'canon' on a per episode basis. I really wouldn't worry about what the implications of one stories canon are on another.
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# ? Jan 1, 2018 21:27 |
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Don't bother trying to build a grand unified timeline for Black Mirror. At most, the different episodes are just alternate timelines where certain technologies got developed more than others. Speaking of callbacks, seeing the postcard for San Junipero in Metalhead made me go
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# ? Jan 1, 2018 21:36 |
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Is the concept of an anthology too alien or what
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# ? Jan 1, 2018 21:37 |
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it doesn't make me like the episode any more (or less) but i do kinda like the Metalhead theory that it's taking place in a completely non-apocalypse and it's "what if security guards but too much"
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# ? Jan 1, 2018 21:39 |
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It is not really an anthology where all stories are in same Universe. The over reaching framing story just hasn't been fully revealed yet. One can consider that Cookie Civil right movement lead to energy crisis where most of people had to move to arcologies and work as energy generators, while those who refused are being culled by Metalhead dogs to not be a strain on dwindling resources.
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# ? Jan 1, 2018 21:41 |
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Xenaul posted:It is not really an anthology where all stories are in same Universe. The over reaching framing story just hasn't been fully revealed yet. You literally can't generate energy that way
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# ? Jan 1, 2018 21:52 |
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precision posted:it doesn't make me like the episode any more (or less) but i do kinda like the Metalhead theory that it's taking place in a completely non-apocalypse and it's "what if security guards but too much" The main thing against this theory is that the guy in the house committed suicide, implying that the dogs went rogue at some point and he couldn't leave the house. I guess the original idea that the dogs are owned by some foreign military would make some sort of sense if they decided to "cleanse" an area instead of just occupying it.
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# ? Jan 1, 2018 21:53 |
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ClumsyThief posted:Metalhead My theory: These devices are popular and everywhere. Standarized enough so the same model is used by police, the public, etc. They are hacked with a update that label humans as targets to exterminate by somebody that has enough poo poo with humanity and is angry. I did not trough that was a interesting episode.
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# ? Jan 1, 2018 22:07 |
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Tei posted:My theory: Oh, wow, just like in Hated In The Nation, AKA the worst Black Mirror episode by a long shot!
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# ? Jan 1, 2018 22:09 |