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How many other kinds of stories can they do? More dangers of social media?
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Jan 3, 2018 02:11
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Cojawfee posted:dangers of social media? They're pretty creative with this one, at least. The premise gave us both "all social interactions become superficial" and "the Bees demand sacrifice"
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Jan 3, 2018 02:15
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:I hope next season avoids having any more "A digital copy of you, screaming forever" plotlines Weirdest thing to me about that is how cheap/easily it was produced, seems like an entire copy of a person would be expensive.
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Jan 3, 2018 02:15
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Thursday Next posted:Holy poo poo holy poo poo holy poo poo White Bear what the crap To be honest, watch all of them, there aren't that many. If you haven't watched 15 Million Merits though you should watch that as soon as possible.
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Jan 3, 2018 02:18
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Cojawfee posted:How many other kinds of stories can they do? More dangers of social media? In reality if they can’t come up with anything new they should just end it. But there are still ideas out there. They could explore echo chambers in Internet forums/social media that lead to extremism (Elliot Rodgers), fake news, a bunch of poo poo. But I think if a new episode tortures another avatar I will probably quit watching.
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Jan 3, 2018 02:20
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I think there is a lot to explore in the dating ap thing from Hang the DJ. My thoughts from the trailer was that it would be some kind of sinister social engineering device. You know, selectively create couples to make a society in line with some ideology and stealth eugenics the others by not matching them with people.
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Jan 3, 2018 02:22
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Zenithe posted:I think there is a lot to explore in the dating ap thing from Hang the DJ. My thoughts from the trailer was that it would be some kind of sinister social engineering device. You know, selectively create couples to make a society in line with some ideology and stealth eugenics the others by not matching them with people. Really they could have taken HTD in any way and it would have been better than the ending they came up with.
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Jan 3, 2018 02:26
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Thursday Next posted:Holy poo poo holy poo poo holy poo poo White Bear what the crap National Anthem and Nosedive are my two least favorite episodes, everything else runs from good to great I think. Men Against Fire and Waldo Moment aren't too great either but better than those first two. Away all Goats fucked around with this message at 02:29 on Jan 3, 2018 |
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Jan 3, 2018 02:26
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One thing I felt about this season is that it either did regular drama stories with a slight sci-fi element to them or stories about simulacrums instead of leaning harder into how stupid dreamtech would impact regular people's lives. I'unno, there's teleportation, there's a post-scarcity society where you can produce whatever you want with a 3D printer, there's humans on the moon fighting a proxy war versus aliens utilizing goth androids, there's some poo poo there.
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Jan 3, 2018 02:27
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Cojawfee posted:How many other kinds of stories can they do? More dangers of social media? A ton considering their first episode was 'what would happen if someone made the PM gently caress a pig?". The show chose to go down the road of What If Phones, doesn't mean it has to keep doing down that road. I'm not sure how in depth Charlie Brooker's writing goes since there's a different director each episode. Sometimes it feels like Brooker comes up with an idea and the directors each take a turn trying to go even more What If Phones and pull off bigger twists.
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Jan 3, 2018 02:33
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Men Against Fire was saved by Michael Kelly and the ending I thought. Lame to that point but even if the twist was pretty obvious they wrapped it up nicely. I don't know what else they can really produce for new episodes. The meta social commentary episodes are generally weak(National Anthem, Waldo, Killa Beez). Pretty sure Black Museum retired digital consciousness and human implants. This season seemed to get a lot more attention than any others so I'd be surprised if Netflix doesn't give them a ton of cash to produce one more.
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Jan 3, 2018 02:44
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National Anthem owns so hard, gently caress the haters.  It's the greatest hour of dark comedy I've seen.
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Jan 3, 2018 02:45
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I will never not lose it at the picture perfect delivery on the line "...well I'm not loving a pig"
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Jan 3, 2018 04:45
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Why couldn't Daly just teleport back onto the Callister when he can bend reality with his hands
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Jan 3, 2018 04:52
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FireWorksWell posted:Why couldn't Daly just teleport back onto the Callister when he can bend reality with his hands He might not have that ability, or he might just be so caught up in trappings of the world he created that he still wants to follow the rules.
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Jan 3, 2018 05:49
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Cojawfee posted:He might not have that ability, or he might just be so caught up in trappings of the world he created that he still wants to follow the rules. it's clear that when he is "in-game" he has limited abilities to control everything. Like he can turn people into rachni things put he can't really pause the game.
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Jan 3, 2018 06:08
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FireWorksWell posted:Why couldn't Daly just teleport back onto the Callister when he can bend reality with his hands I don't understand why questions like this keep coming up when we never see him do anything like that At the very least we always see him using the tricorder thing to do stuff and they make a huge deal out of them stealing that from him. It's what the whole end of the episode is about.
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Jan 3, 2018 06:25
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Despite all the people dumping on it I really enjoyed Metalhead in a way that I want moooooore. I want to know how they ended up in that situation? who made the dogs? are there other kinds of drones? The dogs, while kinda cute are absolutely horrifying in a brutal, faceless efficient killer that can't be reasoned or even interact with sorta way. Hell, you can't even beg for your life. Unmature posted:I don't understand why questions like this keep coming up when we never see him do anything like that He takes her face off with a wave of a hand, but that's the closest I can think of of in game "god" powers. It might even be some sort of ingame script or something he has to maintain control over his prisoners.
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Jan 3, 2018 06:43
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i don't see what's so wrong with exploring the same idea in greater depth or in new contexts? why are people complaining about the idea of digital consciousnesses being brought back to be seen in a new light? honestly, there's still a lot to be done with the concept of digital human copies alone, and seeing the same idea explored in different contexts is actually good and interesting if done right. not every BM episode need introduce some new sci-fi tech to talk about. if there's still interesting things to do with older concepts, why the gently caress not? e: also, i'm cynical as gently caress, and i don't expect any show to be original or groundbreaking for long, if it starts as such. and retreading old ideas isn't bad. Fututor Magnus fucked around with this message at 07:03 on Jan 3, 2018 |
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Jan 3, 2018 06:57
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Thundercracker posted:Like, if it was security drone it can be deadly, but foremost it should should ground and not give chase over miles. If it was an American style assassination drone then it should have better targeting systems to avoid civilian damage. lmao if you think american drones avoid civilian damage. in an america which already has police armed with military tactical gear and weapons and military-style assault vehicles, i wouldn't be loving surprised if military drones become the next thing in security. the thing is already perfect in how it looks, it's like something you'd expect the military-industrial complex to poo poo out in a couple decades and sell en-masse to police, or to jeff bezos.
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Jan 3, 2018 07:09
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Fututor Magnus posted:i don't see what's so wrong with exploring the same idea in greater depth or in new contexts? why are people complaining about the idea of digital consciousnesses being brought back to be seen in a new light? Because its a show made by English people so we only get a few new episodes every two years. Why waste that on repeating the same thing?
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Jan 3, 2018 07:26
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Fututor Magnus posted:i don't see what's so wrong with exploring the same idea in greater depth or in new contexts? why are people complaining about the idea of digital consciousnesses being brought back to be seen in a new light? Because there really isn’t anything new being developed with the concept. It’s literally the same thing over and over again. I mean I guess Black Museum and Callister are different from White Christmas because the people the avatars represent didn’t do anything wrong. But when you beat the same concept into the ground over and over again it’s just becoming torture porn. I started the show not knowing what the hell it was outside of people telling me it ‘was good’, so episodes like Be Right Back, The National Anthem, and The Entire History of You were pretty ground breaking in terms of exploring concepts both socially and philosophically regarding advancing technology (not to sound like the stereotypical Rick and Morty ‘this show is only for people of a high IQ’ or anything). I want more of that, not more torture. Yes, killing/torturing man made consciousness is bad. Let’s talk about something else already.
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Jan 3, 2018 07:28
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In no order... White Bear, Fifteen Million Merits, and White Christmas are my favorites. There is definitely still material left to mine. Fake news alone has the potential to be a really interesting topic. People manipulating their bodies with tech also could be taken further. We have definitely seen enough of drones and interior clone/replicant hellscape for a while, to say the least.
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Jan 3, 2018 08:19
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Thundercracker posted:Like, if it was security drone it can be deadly, but foremost it should should ground and not give chase over miles. If it was an American style assassination drone then it should have better targeting systems to avoid civilian damage. Oh wow, I somehow didn't know this post existed. Ahahahahahahaha
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Jan 3, 2018 08:25
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Thundercracker posted:It honestly feels like some super vindicative machine built for ethnic cleansing or mass murder. Which, kinda dampens the impact because we can already do that with some elbow grease and machetes. You make it sound like people stopped dreaming up weapons of mass destruction just because one solution was already found. All the worst ones were developed after World War II, for scenarios that would virtually inevitably end with one or both sides suffering massive civilian depopulation.
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Jan 3, 2018 08:28
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I like the idea someone posted earlier, that the dogs are just security for an Amazon warehouse
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Jan 3, 2018 08:55
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Reckon Charlie Brooker, or whoever else it was that wrote Metalhead, read that Peter Frase book from Jacobin about how one of our potential future dystopias is the literal mechanised slaughter of the global proletariat. And that'll be what got your communist aunt Maxine Peake interested in doing it in the first place and that's why it's a post-apocalyptic hellscape. It's a good episode is what I'm saying.
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Jan 3, 2018 09:19
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Watched Crocodile tonight Codger the guinea pig is one of my favorite BM characters. I hope he went to live with a nice new family
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Jan 3, 2018 09:27
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Metalhead was awesome It was black and white to cover up the cheap CGI
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Jan 3, 2018 12:58
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21 Muns posted:Is it weird that I really liked Frank's second date? Yeah, she's absolutely awful to Frank, but she doesn't strike me as a fundamentally antisocial person, just someone deeply incompatible with Frank. Assuming she's based on a real user of the app somewhere out there, I hope things turn out well for her! Anyone who hates chicken tikka masala is immediately in the running for Worst Person In The Universe, imo. Orange Devil fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Jan 3, 2018 |
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Jan 3, 2018 13:00
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TheDon01 posted:who made the dogs? Boston Dynamics
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Jan 3, 2018 14:54
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Orange Devil posted:Anyone who hates chicken tikka masala is immediately in the running for Worst Person In The Universe, imo. I found it weird that every first date started with a dinner in a fancy restaurant. Whatever happened to the good ol fashioned take a girl out for coffee cus you don't like her?
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Jan 3, 2018 17:15
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If people gonna simulate each other all the time in the future for the dumbest reasons, there is practically zero chances of any of us being real. Htbh Like, each second there is one real you, and also 10 mio copies of you running on the McDonalds server and providing feedback on the new BigMac sauce recipe. Chances of you being the real you are 1:10 mio
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Jan 3, 2018 18:15
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Keith Atherton posted:Watched Crocodile tonight I don't see this episode getting a lot of love but it's probably in my top 5. I enjoyed that she would have gotten away with killing her ex boyfriend, in a way that pretty much indicated he was never there, but got screwed up because some guy was taking a flash picture of the guy in the room below her. Also "poor fucker was born blind" probably shouldn't have cracked me up as much as it did
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Jan 3, 2018 18:46
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Crocodile was definitely the funniest episode so far and I doubt Jodi Foster meant for that to happen
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Jan 3, 2018 19:46
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Doltos posted:Crocodile was definitely the funniest episode so far and I doubt Jodi Foster meant for that to happen Jodie Foster directed Arkangel, not Crocodile.  But yea, it was funny as hell. Callister had a lot of funny poo poo too. The zoom in shot of the bad guy on the rocks made me crack up.
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Jan 3, 2018 19:50
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WampaLord posted:Jodie Foster directed Arkangel, not Crocodile. Oh my god I got my wires crossed and thought this entire time Jodie Foster was behind Crocodile. Arkangel was much better. Go Jodie.
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Jan 3, 2018 19:54
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I guess not many people like it, but Arkangel resonanted with me. Having honest and open communication with your kid is so goddamn important. Don't go behind their backs and try to "fix" everything. Kids are gonna do stupid things and gently caress up. That's how they learn.
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Thundercracker posted:Like, if it was security drone it can be deadly, but foremost it should should ground and not give chase over miles. If it was an American style assassination drone then it should have better targeting systems to avoid civilian damage. It honestly felt to me like someone took Boston Dynamics' Big Dog robot (which currently is only capable to moving over terrain of varying kinds and righting itself when it falls over; I think they plan to develop it to move military supplies?) and went 'hmmm, can we mod this into an unstoppable death machine that's also small and cute enough to possibly lure targets close to it?'
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