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The ia looks like hell though. Leave it to toyota to ugly up one of the best looking subcompacts. The real answer is to figure out how to ship a new 2 from puerto rico.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:You're mixing up your size classes quite a bit. The Mazda3 and Golf are the same class as the Corolla, which is larger than the Fit. What's wrong with the current yaris? Does the Fiesta still have transmission issues?
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mariooncrack posted:What's wrong with the current yaris? It uses a four speed automatic transmission for starters. The Fiesta probably still has transmission issues. I woudn't buy one if it weren't a stick.
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mariooncrack posted:Does the Fiesta still have transmission issues? Stick Fiestas are pretty great, ones with the 1.0 engine are even better. I wouldn't buy an auto Fiesta new or used.
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At what point does an old car become a classic car? My friend and I have both been looking for new vehicles for a while and she found the elusive Sun City car: a car driven by a retired couple. It's a 99 Honda Accord sedan with 44k miles on it. I didn't believe her until I checked the pics. Clean Carfax, only one owner. I told her it wasn't a good idea because finding parts would probably be stupid hard, but it's also a near 20 year old car. I can't imagine it will last longer!
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Finding parts for a 99 Accord will not be hard at all. There are still TONS of those around, just very few in mint condition.
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Jan 6, 2018 02:52
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Every salvage yard in America has 10 late-90s Accords in it, and that's besides the great number of them that are still on the road. Getting parts will be stupid easy. e: I think in the US "classic" is a designation for licensing/registration purposes and the age qualification can vary by state, but it's always at least 25 years so a '99 is nowhere near qualifying.
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Yeah, old Accords last forever if they receive the bare minimum of service - when I worked at an independent shop in a ghetto area, I had a poo poo-ton of old Accords come in with over 200,000miles, some close to 300K. The only other vehicle that regularly lasted that long were old Camries and the occasional Subaru. Just stay away from automatic/V6 combos until ~2011. That said, it’s quite common for very low-mileage older vehicles(the proverbial ‘old lady who only drove it to church’) to have widespread issues with seals and gaskets throughout the brakes/drivetrain; it’s bad for rubber parts to sit for long periods of time, then be used a bit, then sit again. It’s also hard on the internal engine parts to sit, since all the oil runs off everything during the downtime, although religiously changing the oil can partially mitigate wear issues.
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poo poo maybe I should look into getting it since my search for a good Prius hasn't ended well. It's had one loving owner.
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The nice thing about older Hondas is that many of the cars share the same parts. You may find that parts from a different Honda or an Acura may fit the bill. As said before, it depends on the state but 25 years is the usual designation for a classic car. JnnyThndrs posted:That said, it’s quite common for very low-mileage older vehicles(the proverbial ‘old lady who only drove it to church’) to have widespread issues with seals and gaskets throughout the brakes/drivetrain; it’s bad for rubber parts to sit for long periods of time, then be used a bit, then sit again. It’s also hard on the internal engine parts to sit, since all the oil runs off everything during the downtime, although religiously changing the oil can partially mitigate wear issues. This so much. I would probably avoid that particular car unless you have some proof of recent maintenance history like changing the timing belt and routine oil changes..
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Jan 6, 2018 03:30
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https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistory/p/Report.cfx?vin=JHMCG5641XC016120&partner=DPK_2 I don't see much in anything for a few years...
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Jan 6, 2018 03:32
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Carfax isn't the end all be all of car maintenance. If I remember correctly, the mechanic has to submit the service to carfax and not all mechanics do. I could be wrong on this. That said, the last oil change might be 8k miles ago, which sounds awful. It's an Arizona car too. Have your friend check out the dash and anything rubber on the car. I'd be worried about the rubber drying out, especially if the car has been sitting outside.
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Went to the VW dealer today, and the salesman there seemed to really not want our business, so we didn't spend much time. The little time I did spend with the Golf underwhelmed me. I didn't test drive it, but the Fit felt roomier, and I really liked how the back seat folds up and down in the Fit. The Golf also only had one camera, in the rear. It felt like a less featured car. I'm sure driving it it has much more power to it, but that's not really want I'm looking for. Right now the biggest knock against the Fit is how popular it is, I found out one of the reasons my fiance doesn't like me getting it so much is her mom just bought one, and it would be weird to her if I bought the same car. I'll probably check out a couple cars that are bigger. I think I'll check out the Corolla, Camry, and Civic. Maybe borrow my fiance's car and see how much I remember driving stick, I really liked the color and look of a green Civic Si Coupe they had on the Honda lot, but it was stick only. If I get out of this car what I got out of my last, I want to make sure it's a comfortable 10+ years. Thanks for all the info here, this has been super helpful, combined with my own searching, and checking with my fiance's uncle, who's got all of the consumer report books on hand to dig into other reliability info.
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mariooncrack posted:The nice thing about older Hondas is that many of the cars share the same parts. You may find that parts from a different Honda or an Acura may fit the bill. This is what makes old modern cars different to work on than "classics". The parts you need on a regular basis for that Accord were probably shared across that entire run of the Accord, and maybe shared on other models too. Classic parts can be a pain if you need a one-year-only part for a low volume model. But even then, when a vehicle is ubiquitous enough, even when very old, parts are still easy. Ask anyone with an air-cooled VW, or a 1960+ GM truck, for example.
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I’ll just add that once you start driving a modern stick-shift car, you get really adept, really quickly. New and new-ish vehicles have so much better clutch and shift linkages compared to the horrible shitboxes I and my friends learned on 30 years ago. A Civic Si is a fun car, I test-drove one when I bought my Accord Coupe a few months ago. If it had 30 more HP and wasn’t white, I’d probably have bought it.
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Cowslips Warren posted:At what point does an old car become a classic car? "Classic" is a completely meaningless term. It's not age-based, because an '83 Dodge Omni is certainly not "a classic" but an '83 Z-28 almost certainly would be. Also, age doesn't have a direct correlation with difficulty to find parts for because it's a far sight easier to find parts for, say, a '92 Subaru Legacy then it is for, say, a 2011 2011 Mercury Mariner Hybrid. mariooncrack posted:Carfax isn't the end all be all of car maintenance. If I remember correctly, the mechanic has to submit the service to carfax and not all mechanics do. I could be wrong on this. Nah, you're correct here. A lack of CarFax maintenance history means nothing. If Grandma just took it to Bob's Corner NAPA to be fixed they're not going to report jack poo poo to anybody. mariooncrack posted:That said, the last oil change might be 8k miles ago, which sounds awful. 8K is totally acceptable change interval for a frequently-driven vehicle in a temperate climate while running full synthetic. If the price is right you should buy it. Your inability to find a "good" car is based on your own fussiness, and not some lack of available cars. The used market is soft as hell right now because of easy credit. I've seen some screaming deals, it's crazy out there. Chainclaw posted:Right now the biggest knock against the Fit is how popular it is, I found out one of the reasons my fiance doesn't like me getting it so much is her mom just bought one, and it would be weird to her if I bought the same car. Jesus, WTF?
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Unload My Head posted:8K is totally acceptable change interval for a frequently-driven vehicle in a temperate climate while running full synthetic. While true, I don't think that's the case for this car. If you look at the Carfax, said car has an average of 2500 miles per year with a possible last documented oil change in 2012.
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Eric the Mauve posted:Every salvage yard in America has 10 late-90s Accords in it, and that's besides the great number of them that are still on the road. Getting parts will be stupid easy. PA is 15 for classic and 25 for antique. That used to make sense when cars fell apart when they reached 100,000 miles like in a cartoon, not so much anymore.
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mariooncrack posted:While true, I don't think that's the case for this car. If you look at the Carfax, said car has an average of 2500 miles per year with a possible last documented oil change in 2012. My friend decided to wait for her tax refund, so I came to check it out. If the sticker is the window is right, last oil change was 2015, less than a thousand miles ago.
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Cowslips Warren posted:My friend decided to wait for her tax refund, so I came to check it out. If the sticker is the window is right, last oil change was 2015, less than a thousand miles ago. Buy this poo poo asap, dude.
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My sister needs a new car after an accident, and I was hoping that folks here could give us some direction or advice: Proposed Budget $12,000 New or Used Used Body Style Any 4 passenger automatic. How will you be using the car? She would pretty much be driving around town (no commute) and occasional visits to nearest major city. What aspects are most important to you? Safety Ratings, Reliable and not too expensive to fix, and MPG in that order. Bonus points for leather style seats, sunroof, or not being too butt ugly. Any help would be appreciated, and I can try to elaborate if this isn't enough detail.
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Aesirstorm posted:I have one, SEL trim without the tech package, I'm quite pleased with it. If you have any specific questions I can answer in PM. I wound up getting a Got a Hyundai sonata hybrid limited I liked the Ioniq but the bar in the rear view was annoying
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I'm tired of my lovely rattling 2001 Ford and want something newer. Proposed Budget: $10k or lower New or Used: Used Body Style: 4 door that seats four people comfortably. Must be an automatic. How will you be using the car?: Mostly driving to work, 30 minutes each way. Occasional road trips with my three best friends. What aspects are most important to you? - Good MPG and reliability/low maintenance costs by far. - I'm sure most modern cars have this by now but I want one with a digital display that can handle phone calls, play music from my phone, and display weather and other stuff. This part isn't that important but it would be nice to have.
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Prius.
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nm posted:Prius. Could you elaborate? I know this is probably mean't for the other person, but his request seems to be the same? I've been told that it can be hard to maintain Priuses though?
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thechosenone posted:Could you elaborate? I know this is probably mean't for the other person, but his request seems to be the same? I've been told that it can be hard to maintain Priuses though? The prius is very reliable and is not hard nor particularly expensive to maintain.
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The Prius needs almost no maintenance.
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I'm looking for a cheap used truck that I can use to bring my motorcycle to track days, or to take it out to trails for going offroad without riding it with knobbies on the freeway. I can't currently drive manual cars, but would be willing to learn. Proposed Budget: At most $7000. New or Used: Used. Body Style: Truck with open bed. How will you be using the car?: Transporting motorcycle to trails/track days. Preferably the bed can fit two or even three dirt bikes so I can organize a group ride. Grocery runs for bulk items, moving, etc. What aspects are most important to you? Reliability. Automatic transmission preferably. 4 wheel drive would be nice, but not a deal breaker. Must be able to fit a ramp. Location: Seattle Possibilities I'm looking at, other ideas welcome. Warning, I know very little (nothing) about trucks so I'm flying blind here.
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IOwnCalculus posted:The Prius needs almost no maintenance. I've owned a 2005 Prius for 5 weeks and so far: -Rear brake light died (replaced by place I bought it from for free) -Brake pump died (replaced by place I bought it from for free) -Check engine light is on (no idea - going to get the code checked out tomorrow and bought one of these for the future so I don't have to go to Autozone ever again) EugeneJ fucked around with this message at 04:28 on Jan 7, 2018 |
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What if we actually don't mind not having the best gas mileage (my sister seems to not want a Prius)? I figure my sis dealt with a car from the 90's just fine, so no need for fancy accouterments (though they wouldn't disqualify it). The most important things I'm going to guess is safety and leather seats(?). Sorry to be wishy washy.
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thechosenone posted:What if we actually don't mind not having the best gas mileage (my sister seems to not want a Prius)? I figure my sis dealt with a car from the 90's just fine, so no need for fancy accouterments (though they wouldn't disqualify it). The most important things I'm going to guess is safety and leather seats(?). Sorry to be wishy washy. The guy I bought my Prius from was all into "you'll learn how to coast down hills to save gas and be more fuel efficient!" and I give 0 shits about doing stuff like that
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I think I finally got a little more info. She seems like she ideally would have wanted (if money wasn't a problem) a RAV4 or Subaru Forester. are there used ones (or more likely things similar) for around the 12k price range?
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thechosenone posted:What if we actually don't mind not having the best gas mileage (my sister seems to not want a Prius)? I figure my sis dealt with a car from the 90's just fine, so no need for fancy accouterments (though they wouldn't disqualify it). The most important things I'm going to guess is safety and leather seats(?). Sorry to be wishy washy. Maybe a Civic or Fit or a Mazda 3, then. Any of them is much more interesting than a Prius. Leather upholstery is rare on cheap cars. A luxury car old enough to be in your price range is going to be a maintenance nightmare. She'll just have to sit in a few and see what she thinks of it. Edit: A RAV4 or Forester would be fine. RAV4s have had problems with piston rings, though, so make sure that's been taken care of (or it's outside the recall years). Deteriorata fucked around with this message at 04:36 on Jan 7, 2018 |
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Cowslips Warren posted:At what point does an old car become a classic car? My mom has a '99 Accord with like 70k on the clock, it has lived in a garage except for like 2 years it was borrowed by myself and my sister (and nearly totaled by her). The only thing wrong with that old thing is the AC knob broke off and I needed to wedge a dime in there. It has been a super cheap car to own. 90s Hondas and Toyotas will last to 200k+ miles easy given good maintenance. Parts availability is in no way a concern for a Honda and if you don't give a poo poo about modern amenities then pounce on that old rear end Accord!
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thechosenone posted:Could you elaborate? I know this is probably mean't for the other person, but his request seems to be the same? I've been told that it can be hard to maintain Priuses though? This was in response to queering wheel, but would apply to your sister too. If she's looking at cuvs, make sure to pay attention to roof crush tests. Suvs, even cuvs, roll and a fair nunber have had weak roofs.
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EkardNT posted:
Hi fellow PNW goon. Decide now whether you want 4wd. It will have a large impact on the price you pay in this area. Do not buy a Dodge truck. They are hot hot garbage and the Durango/Dakota front ends literally lose front wheels as you drive. There was a big lawsuit over it. The Rangers are okay, but not great. Same with Chev/GMC. Why are you not shopping Toyotas? A 2wd Tacoma with a 4-cyl/automatic can be easily had in your price range and will run circles around those domestic trucks.
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Currently driving an 04 Buick LeSabre with 230k miles, waiting to find out from my shop if it's worth a drat to fix or not. Previous owner was very careful with it - I purchased at 196k and only had to replace a couple of brake lines last year, and now a stalling issue, hopefully relating to sensors. She's been good to me, but should it crap out... Proposed Budget: $4000 - $6000 max. New or Used: USED Body Style: idgaf How will you be using the car?: Highway commuting, driving my rear end around. No family or hauling needs. What aspects are most important to you? Reliability, MPG. I have a long daily commute. I live in a snowy lovely part of the midwest US, so there's a ton of salt and about 3 months of snow and ice. According to the last 30 or so pages of the thread, I should be looking at Corolla, Camry, Civic, and Accord. I'm finding a smallish selection of those in my area, and they've almost all got 140k-180k+ on the mileage, those with less seem poorly cared for. There's a wide range of prices - a few for around $3000, the majority are around $5000. I'm not really sure what I should expect. One claims to have come from Florida - a 05 Civic XL 2D manual with 149k, and they're asking $2700. No mention of owners or Carfax. Photos look flawless. On the high end, someone's selling an 2010 Camry LE, automatic, with 150k miles for $5900, which is frankly a bit more than I'd like to pay, but the owner's providing a clean Carfax. I'll need to take out an auto loan, probably 4 years, to cover $5900. I've never owned a manual, but I know how to drive one and I'm not averse to owning one. I've heard that manuals often have their transmission badly abused by the time their sold at a high mileage, should that be a concern? Thanks for helping out a concerned noob.
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Shop more on condition than anything else. My go to cheap car recommendation is a Gen 1 or Gen 2 Ford Focus with either the Zetec or Duratech motors. The gen 2 focuses are ugly, but basically the same car. Older hondas have tin worm issues, so do Mazdas. I'd be more worried about abused automatics than abused manuals at this age.
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EkardNT posted:I'm looking for a cheap used truck that I can use to bring my motorcycle to track days, or to take it out to trails for going offroad without riding it with knobbies on the freeway. I can't currently drive manual cars, but would be willing to learn. You're not fitting 2-3 dirtbikes in the bed of a stepside ranger like the one you posted. Most likely won't fit in any small truck. I'd recommend finding a regular cab, standard/long bed Chevy/GMC or F150. You'll easily be able to find something in the mid 00' model years with your budget and have a better truck that isn't much worse on gas. 4x4 will be a bit harder to find in nice shape with the budget.
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