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Electric Phantasm posted:Alright so fighting Morag for the second time got three orbs on her; Earth, Wind, and Fire. Start up a chain attack hit her with light from Rex, Wind from Nia, and Earth from Tora, but I didn't get an option to continue the Earth Orb looked shattered. What did I do wrong? It says burst on it when shattered,so you didn't shatter it.
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Electric Phantasm posted:Alright so fighting Morag for the second time got three orbs on her; Earth, Wind, and Fire. Start up a chain attack hit her with light from Rex, Wind from Nia, and Earth from Tora, but I didn't get an option to continue the Earth Orb looked shattered. What did I do wrong? You didn't actually shatter the orb. Orbs have 3 hp each. Hitting an orb deals 1 damage, and hitting an orb with an opposing element deals 2 damage. If you want to guarantee a second round in your chain attack in the early game, you'll want to do something like have two water attacks against a fire orb in round 1.
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Thanks and ugh I had Nia and Rex equiped with Wind Blades.
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Jan 6, 2018 01:10
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Eh, it wouldn't have mattered. Wind opposes ice, and earth opposes lightning.
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Jan 6, 2018 01:34
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:I just completed the plot race from Chapters 6-8 and man the game really ramped up the stupidity. I have a shitload of complaints about the long series of "not even my final form" scenes and overall plot nonsense, but here's a complaint highlight reel: You'll find out the answer to this question at least pretty soon
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U-DO Burger posted:Eh, it wouldn't have mattered. Wind opposes ice, and earth opposes lightning. gently caress that's probably what has been messing me up, still need to learn the elements. Used to Wind opposing Earth.
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Electric Phantasm posted:gently caress that's probably what has been messing me up, still need to learn the elements. Used to Wind opposing Earth. hell, same. Took me forever to finally get those elements down. Look closely at the orbs during a chain attack. If an orb can be hit with an opposing element, it will radiate slightly. That should help
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naturally, the three-textbox tutorial on chain attacks mentions none of this
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Man the hand holding on the combat people gave me a few pages back really, really paid off. The battle system makes 100% sense now and finally understanding how the branching seal arts work, what the spinning white orbs represent, and basically how to build all that up to a large chain attack finally "clicked". What the hell is up with Monolith being absolute poo poo with explaining all of this in a way that's easy to follow? I don't know if it's the needlessly convoluted way the battle system is set up or the shortage of context in the tutorials but they really need to fix this for their next game.
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I think the first step is making it so you can actually access the tutorials at any time after you've seen them once.
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Whew, I had to use a healer on Rex for the first time fighting against the set of merc battles. Dude was blowing up two of my characters with Magnum Edge or whatever. That was fun. I hope there are more fights like that.
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I think they were talking about how the tutorial doesn't explain which elements oppose which. Also heard the Mor Ardain Daylight Field music for the first time and it's badass.
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I have yet to see a single Blade of Ice or Electric element, are those less common or have I just had an unlucky run?
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Xarbala posted:I have yet to see a single Blade with Ice or Electric element, are those less common or have I just had an unlucky run? Unlucky. Unless you used like 50 rare cores, your sample size is super small. Also you get an Electric element through story and a sidequest.
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Any suggestions on who to use Vess on?
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poe meater posted:Any suggestions on who to use Vess on? Basically anyone but Zeke, because he already has electricity.
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Xarbala posted:I have yet to see a single Blade of Ice or Electric element, are those less common or have I just had an unlucky run? I think going by rare blades electric is the rarest element, ignoring light of which you can only have three/five if Poppi lets you double dip elements I don’t know
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Tae posted:Unlucky. Unless you used like 50 rare cores, your sample size is super small. Welp powered through with a bunch of common cores and I finally have something approaching elemental coverage. It'll do for now, also for some of those merc missions I mean to get out of the way.
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Louisgod posted:Man the hand holding on the combat people gave me a few pages back really, really paid off. The battle system makes 100% sense now and finally understanding how the branching seal arts work, what the spinning white orbs represent, and basically how to build all that up to a large chain attack finally "clicked". Seriously, it's annoying as hell because this is their third game with Nintendo and they haven't been able to explain the battle mechanics for poo poo in any of them. Which is a real shame because once they click they get really fun to play.
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Calaveron posted:I think going by rare blades electric is the rarest element, ignoring light of which you can only have three/five if Poppi lets you double dip elements I don’t know You can only use the light core on QTπ
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IcePhoenix posted:You can only use the light core on QTπ Also, alpha can’t be fire, water, or dark; QT can’t be earth or electric.
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Is Finch the only hammer blade with an agility mod? Pretty much the perfect fit for Four, yeah?
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I'm getting my rear end kicked by Lila, any tips? Everybody's level 31 but Rex just gets immediately rocked.
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Is king ken postgame only? I'm running around smashing his friends into oblivion but he's nowhere to be found.
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Amppelix posted:That's the fusion combo. You'll get big fancy slowdown and announcements (and mechanical bonuses) for inflicting various parts of the driver combo during a blade combo, including smash. The announcer will shout something like "Steam Bomb Smash!" But it's still not a status as smashing is the endpoint of the driver combo and instantly ends it. This gets announced too, as "Driver combo complete!" Important note: These fusion combos have extra effects, with the most common being the hit does more damage and extends the elemental timer. You can keep an element's timer running forever if you driver combo the target enough, which is handy when you're waiting on an AI party member to swap blades or build to level 3 for their special. Xarbala posted:Oh I pulled Zenobia on Nia. I did the same thing early in the game and it's the only overdrive I used during my play through. Haven't regretted it because Zenobia murders poo poo and Rex made heavy use of her. I know having a non-wind axe is better eventually for orb generation/breaking but it's by no means necessary (and only matters for driver combo spam while also making orbs, which isn't a concern in 99% of fights). IcePhoenix posted:Is king ken postgame only? I'm running around smashing his friends into oblivion but he's nowhere to be found. You have to have the foggy weather effect too.
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Evil Fluffy posted:You have to have the foggy weather effect too. It's very foggy. I have lots of calamari.
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IcePhoenix posted:It's very foggy. I have lots of calamari. He should be chilling on the giant pedastal under the town/castle in the middle of the lower level iirc
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Louisgod posted:I'm getting my rear end kicked by Lila, any tips? Everybody's level 31 but Rex just gets immediately rocked. Switch out your blades as soon as they charge up. Use all three arts, switch blade, pop combo when appropriate, repeat. For me, winning her fight meant comboing nonstop. E: oh and don't forget whatever the + button chain is called, that took her bar down at least 1/3 Stelio Kontos fucked around with this message at 08:41 on Jan 6, 2018 |
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Louisgod posted:I'm getting my rear end kicked by Lila, any tips? Everybody's level 31 but Rex just gets immediately rocked. What kind of accessories are you using? An HP accossory could help Rex survive also have Rex fall back to let Tora build up aggro. If nothing else you can change the party leader to someone who won't immediately get rocked.
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Louisgod posted:I'm getting my rear end kicked by Lila, any tips? Everybody's level 31 but Rex just gets immediately rocked. she's got one nasty spike attack that's probably doing the one-shot but it's named; you can use roc's dodge art to evade it
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IcePhoenix posted:Is king ken postgame only? I'm running around smashing his friends into oblivion but he's nowhere to be found. He is. The only superboss present before you beat the game is the one the main quest has you run right past in chapter 7.
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How does Orb Master work exactly? It seems to add an orb of any random element, not the element of the blade the skill is attached to. So much weird, largely undocumented stuff in this game - how the hell is there not a strategy guide?
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"Yeah, I like people. I like myself, and I'm people" is the best line I've ever heard in any jrpg
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Duckula posted:How does Orb Master work exactly? It adds an orb of any element used by the party while the blade is out. So while it's out (assuming 100 percent chance if you have it leveled) and another party member does a level 1 fire special and a level 2 water follow up then it will add a fire and water orb. This should include the element of the blade it's attached to as well (using the blade with orb master's level 1/2 special should add an orb of that blades element) PageMaster fucked around with this message at 11:36 on Jan 6, 2018 |
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Anyway I beat the game. Why does the post credits scene exist, it's loving awful.
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PSA: in general, the +cancel damage% (eyepatches), +crit damage% (headbands), and weapon attachment accessories are better than the generic +damage% accessories in spite of the lower apparent numbers. Each of the former three are independent multipliers, so they multiply rather than add to things like the damage-boosting aux cores and blade battle skills.
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got lucky and pulled Ursula for Nia, holy poo poo this bear is adorable and holy gently caress that skillset is nuts
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DLC Inc posted:got lucky and pulled Ursula for Nia, holy poo poo this bear is adorable and holy gently caress that skillset is nuts Ursula is strong. Enjoy your hellgrind.
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Anyone know how exactly counterattacks work? And I mean those counterattacks that are listed on some blades' affinity trees as "counter attacks with X% damage". One of Poppi's flavor texts suggests it has to do with evading attacks which would make sense as QT is all about evasion.
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