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Fly Molo posted:Both, really. When you play, get stomped in the balls for an hour, and get nothing, it's loving bullshit (maybe 7 tokens if you get enough kills, or 7 more if you win a few rounds? So 2/3 of one reward... if you win). It's no surprise the player base is tiny and eroding. It really needs skill-based matchmaking, some rewards for losing (2 tokens and a blue?), and an in-game matchmaking component. Maybe put them in newbie trials or something. I'm the filthy casual who thinks me and another hunter killing eachother with Golden Gun at the same time is hilarious in quickplay modes. See also, Morrigan-D coming into it's own as suicidal last stand guaranteed missile to the dick kill against Nova Bomb spammers. But I can see that being frustrating to people wanting something more resembling the counter strike it's comp playlist game modes are not really emulating properly. Not enough fun for actual "Casual shooter" with the literally two minute cooldowns unless you are running some form of gimmick to try and work around that. Not tight enough for chasing that "We're a comp shooter too!" dream, while proudly calling out reddit posters over how they didn't fix their bugs but put their buggy gun up on Xur. Section Z fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Jan 6, 2018 |
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Cowcaster posted:oh also i just checked and it looks like it's a thing that needs a premade so that too Trials is a high end experience. It takes much less time than doing a raid. But you still need a premade, but can be people from a chat or a LFG site. Good trials, like in Destiny 1 where supertense, forcing placers to become "their better self". A unique experience that everyone should experience. Just not Trials is not very inviting or fun, because reasons, but that may change in the future.
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Cowcaster posted:honestly i've never tried trials mostly because it seems like the time investment to do a best out of 9 rounds would be a pain in the rear end Trials is blisteringly unfun if you aren't way above the curve in PvP, and the negligible rewards for a loss makes me expect that below average players will (continue to) gradually stop playing, raising the bar to entry and draining the Trials player pool.
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Yo, we have need for a few warm bodies for a Prestige Raid clear at 6:00 PM EST 1/06/18. Were all sick of the Acrius item in our heavy weapon slot, come be a bro and join us in the Dogscord (https://discord.gg/7B9nvm) We are all gonna have to relearn fights anyway, so as long as your 300+ light level this should be fine. Bust Rodd fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Jan 6, 2018 |
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Bust Rodd posted:Yo, we have need for a few warm bodies for a Prestige Raid clear at 6:00 PM EST 1/06/18. Were all sick of the Acrius item in our heavy weapon slot, come be a bro and join us in the Dogscord (https://discord.gg/7B9nvm) e: No
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Elysiume posted:Is the prestige raid just the normal raid but +30LL? as someone who just finished it, it's not worth it
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Xarbala posted:Also picked up a hard light out of nowhere. Hard light with a recoil mod is very viable in PVP with hipfire, people trash on it more than it deserves imo. I really wish I'd been able to get the ornament for it.
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Glans Dillzig posted:as someone who just finished it, it's not worth it but we did it!! much easier after we relaunched to clear spawn and network glitches
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Xur gave me Sweet Business and Zavala gave me a 160 speed instant summon sparrow. A Dawning miracle! Gunsmith gave me the same ship I've gotten and sharded twice before because it looks dumb as hell.
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Kesper North posted:Hard light with a recoil mod is very viable in PVP with hipfire, people trash on it more than it deserves imo. I really wish I'd been able to get the ornament for it. Hard light is cool and good, The main thing to watch for is if you love seeing strings of yellow numbers or not at farther ranges. Taking the "But it has no damage falloff!" for granted means you can end up drawing a cartoonish bullet hole outline around your enemies. Or at least, the more skinny enemies. It's an interesting experience bringing Hard Light to say, Arms dealer "Aw yeah, filling fat legion full of lasers no problem from across the map! Now to kill those psions and fallen sniper drones taking potshots at me... I said. Now to... Hold on, this time for sure." PvP meanwhile is chock full of hallways and doorways to actually take advantage of the bouncy ammo more often. I think one goon managed some sick bounce shots off the ceiling to kill a titan hiding behind their shield wall. Section Z fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Jan 7, 2018 |
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Waffle House posted:They fortunately knocked it down to 7 wins from Destiny 1's 9 wins, so you don't need to go that hard. And you only need one win to chill in the social space, instead of a flawless card Trials of the
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Section Z posted:PvP meanwhile is chock full of hallways and doorways to actually take advantage of the bouncy ammo more often. I think one goon managed some sick bounce shots off the ceiling to kill a titan hiding behind their shield wall. It remains the single coolest thing I've done in Crucible to date. 
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amazing. Someone lossed. guess you can get a masterwork out of Cayde chests  
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Elysiume posted:Is the prestige raid just the normal raid but +30LL? Apart from the enemies just being straight up hard, each fight has tweaks to make it more annoying/difficult. I'm probably missing some, but off the top of my head: Baths - after a centre phase, the game forces a team scramble by assigning a specific player to each plate. bathers drop a field that strips your buff Gardens - two more dogs, plus more aggressive pathing Gauntlet - everybody must run the gauntlet once. on the final all-run phase there are only three balls instead of four. a projection (which must be shot) spawns together with the punch baby Calus - when you punch a baby in the throne room, you swap out with one of the players in the dreamscape Finally, when you die in prestige mode you lose your revive token for that fight.
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Kessel posted:Gauntlet - everybody must run the gauntlet once. on the final all-run phase there are only three balls instead of four. a projection (which must be shot) spawns together with the punch baby On our prestige run today, we actually had all 6 players finish running the gauntlet and dunk in the final phase (where everyone runs). I've never been on a crew that did that in regular gauntlet.
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glad to see a return of an old d1 favorite - a team of solos against a team of 2 2-stacks good poo poo blorngo
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Hmm, weird. These two identical shader stacks haven't stacked.   Okay, well maybe if I juggle it into my vault and out agai- 
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Waffle House posted:Hmm, weird. These two identical shader stacks haven't stacked. this isnt news, people have been talking about it since day one of the dawning, its because shaders you get out of your freebie dawning gifts dismantle into shards instead of bright dust
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Angry Walrus posted:this isnt news, people have been talking about it since day one of the dawning, its because shaders you get out of your freebie dawning gifts dismantle into shards instead of bright dust Just as awkward though considering you can't tell which is which.
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I must be slow on the news, but it's still pretty rad.
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love too have my tiny shader inventory lose even more slots because bungie doesnt want people getting too many shaders for free that they could dismantle for 5 dust
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Angry Walrus posted:love too have my tiny shader inventory lose even more slots because bungie doesnt want people getting too many shaders for free that they could dismantle for 5 dust excuse me it's seven dust okay
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Kessel posted:excuse me it's seven dust okay https://youtu.be/hy17DWrjNT0
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Is there the equivalent of town portal in this game? I'm still on the free trial and Diablo-Halo is kind of fun but I'm still on the fence. The SP missions seem very linear, but at the same time there's no quick way to see a map without the long transition to the Director thing. I think D2 and D3s interfaces spoiled me.
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Trip Report: I got my goon pal Archtype and he and I PUGged 4 dudes from LFG and we cleared the Prestige Raid in 3 hours on the nose start to finish, running underbelly. Baths is the only one that’s substantially more difficult as the trash mobs can easily overwhelm you solo. Your teammates have to help you with bathers and you can’t ignore trash. We spent like 45 minutes on baths and only need 2-3 attempts on Gauntlet and probably only 3-4 attempts on Dogs. Once you figure out your routes that fight plays the same. We used PMChem’s suggestion of the ported guy always going mid in Callus and that worked super well. So now that I understand the Prestige mechanics I can definitely lead more goons through, it really wasn’t as much of a hassle as some people made it out to be. I know my normal raid team could do it in 2 hours easy. I’ll say it was worth it, especially considering 3 hours was including only one of us having ever done it before and besides me & Arch (or Spacebandito sniping he final boss for the clear!) we had never played together before.
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Ynglaur posted:Is there the equivalent of town portal in this game? I'm still on the free trial and Diablo-Halo is kind of fun but I'm still on the fence. The SP missions seem very linear, but at the same time there's no quick way to see a map without the long transition to the Director thing. I think D2 and D3s interfaces spoiled me. Not sure if I'm misunderstanding, but you can press M to go directly to the map.
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Angry Walrus posted:this isnt news, people have been talking about it since day one of the dawning, its because shaders you get out of your freebie dawning gifts dismantle into nothing at all FTFY.
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Junkenstein posted:Not sure if I'm misunderstanding, but you can press M to go directly to the map. Are there multiple way points per location? E.g. Do I always land next to the cathedral on Earth?
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Ynglaur posted:Are there multiple way points per location? E.g. Do I always land next to the cathedral on Earth? In the trial, no. All the other parts of Earth are higher level than you.
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Hey I guess this answers the question on trials matchmakingquote:The current trails/crucible system that matches based on location is easily exploitable using a VPN. https://imgur.com/a/7YqYk
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Also: looks like private matches are BACK!!!!
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:Hey I guess this answers the question on trials matchmaking Ahhahah a hoooooly poo poo
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:Hey I guess this answers the question on trials matchmaking thia was also possible in d1, fyi
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i don't understand what i'm looking at. they got matched against an empty team? or the team ragequit giving them a flawless victory? edit: i should read the post and not just look at the picture
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I think my major problem with Eververse isn't so much the fact it even exists, but the fact that it's not really "funded" anything... particularly new? Like, in Destiny 1 they used Eververse as the reason that SRL was a thing (even though it was probably made like, at the same time as the rest of the stuff in TTK). But other than that, everything else has just been like... reskins and bringing back old content? Which is good and all, but I think there'd be far less animosity towards it all if they ever added new content that wasn't just repackaging content that came in either the base game or DLC of some sort. There are other issues with Destiny 2 other than the fact microtransactions exist, but it does feel like microtransactions exists just to fund more microtransactions currently. Put some of that money towards like, making a event-specific strike or something for gently caress's sake Bungie.
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lol if you think MTX money is going anywhere other than to ActiBlizz shareholders.
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TVsVeryOwn posted:lol if you think MTX money is going anywhere other than to ActiBlizz shareholders. Uh you mean Bungie shareholders or members or whatever
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Jetamo posted:Like, in Destiny 1 they used Eververse as the reason that SRL was a thing (even though it was probably made like, at the same time as the rest of the stuff in TTK). SRL was made by a single employee as part of some inner-office brainstorm weekend thing, completely not serious. They liked it tho and, once an idea was formed to actually do something with it, they just polished it up and released. It wasn't some plan from on high developed by a team lol
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cvnvcnv posted:SRL was made by a single employee as part of some inner-office brainstorm weekend thing, completely not serious. They liked it tho and, once an idea was formed to actually do something with it, they just polished it up and released. It wasn't some plan from on high developed by a team lol Fair enough, I didn't know that. Still, my point remains that I'd like to see them do more than just remix/rerelease old content.
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