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In other news, I declined to sign the separation agreement my previous company sent me - I didn't feel comfortable signing it. According to the lawyer I hired to go over it, I am still somewhat liable for speaking about my experiences at the company (though nowhere near as much as otherwise) so I'm going to remain tight-lipped about it. Still, I think taking the job was a good lesson for me, even if it was ultimately a mistake. Nothing remains but to move on now.
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the talent deficit posted:boulder has ridiculous cost of living (comparable to seattle/los angeles). if you don't mind commuting longmont is pretty reasonable tho Not sure where you're getting this from. I live a 6 minute car ride from work in Boulder and using about 30% of my salary (post-taxes) for a comfortable 1 bedroom apartment (as an entry-level engineer). Having lived in NYC and Boston before this, the cost of living here is better. I'm assuming it's also better than Seattle or LA but I don't know those markets, although I've heard Seattle is pretty crazy (worse than NYC?). Lots of people complain about the cost of living here, but that's because they're from the mid-west where housing prices are very different. Boulder is definitely getting costlier though with more people moving out here for tech jobs and  , but it's definitely not anywhere near NYC/Boston prices yet. And Denver is even more affordable, plus there are a bunch of towns like Broomfield/Westminster/Longmont/Lafayette that you can commute from if Boulder prices don't work out. I wouldn't write it off immediately from your list.
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Jan 8, 2018 17:48
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30% of your post tax going to rent for a 1br is about in line with Boston rates.
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Jan 8, 2018 18:01
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The best thing about being fully remote is getting paid in bitcoin
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Jan 8, 2018 18:54
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pigdog posted:Are you your own user, customer, product owner, architect, the sole developer, and boss? This isn't remotely (  ) true. You can still "synchronize ideas and knowledge" without being in the same room. I can speak to and see my coworkers in realtime. I can even pair program with them. And there is a tool for every kind of asynchronous communication you can imagine (which is probably the bulk of your communication as a software dev).The only thing is your company has to be set up for remote work, and has to have buy-in from everyone else. So this Pollyanna posted:Our designer/product owner seemed to resent the remote workers, and was often kind of an rear end to us was destined to fail from the start, not only because remote workers were treated as less equal than other workers, but also because Pollyanna refused to accommodate her team by being as available as everyone else.
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Jan 8, 2018 18:55
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I wasn’t willing to compromise on that. Lesson learned, I guess.
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Pollyanna posted:I wasn’t willing to compromise on that. Lesson learned, I guess. Well, hopefully the team learned a lesson, too, because work schedules should be 100% sorted out by the time the offer is accepted.
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Jan 8, 2018 19:14
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I should also have been super clear about it from the beginning, too - lots I could have done to mitigate it, I think.
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Jan 8, 2018 19:16
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What do you guys do in the notice period? One of the reasons that I'm leaving my job is that there was nothing to do, and me putting in notice didn't magically change the situation.
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HardDiskD posted:What do you guys do in the notice period? One of the reasons that I'm leaving my job is that there was nothing to do, and me putting in notice didn't magically change the situation. Prepare for the new job.
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Pollyanna posted:I should also have been super clear about it from the beginning, too - lots I could have done to mitigate it, I think. Why was this such a big deal? It's not like you were trying to sync with India, all of NA falls within 2-3h. It really wouldn't kill you to from 10-6 or 8-4. Especially going into a remote only position, this is a big deal. I'd hazard a guess that it's a big reason you got canned. You can usually shift these things after a few months anyways, but beginnings are a very delicate time.
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Jan 8, 2018 19:23
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It would have been 12-8, not 10-6. Also long hours were common, so if Cali went til 10 it would have gone til 1 for me. Also the appropriate response would have been to talk to me about it and ask “is there a way you can adjust your schedule to fit ours” rather than just giving up on it altogether.
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Jan 8, 2018 19:26
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HardDiskD posted:What do you guys do in the notice period? One of the reasons that I'm leaving my job is that there was nothing to do, and me putting in notice didn't magically change the situation. Prepare for new job, while making sure you're not burning bridges (e.g. tidy things up, leave notes etc). If you're burning bridges or have nothing to do then go whole hog and spend 100% time preparing for the new job. Or work on side projects.
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HardDiskD posted:What do you guys do in the notice period? One of the reasons that I'm leaving my job is that there was nothing to do, and me putting in notice didn't magically change the situation. 
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Pollyanna posted:It would have been 12-8, not 10-6. Also long hours were common, so if Cali went til 10 it would have gone til 1 for me. why did you take the job without discussing working hours?
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Pollyanna posted:if Cali went til 10 No surprise that the office that can't cope with a simple timezone difference is a disaster in other respects
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It's bad if a company works too much then tries to hide it by not discussing off-hours with you.  was probably for the best.If only we had a #disruptive #service to anonymously dox poo poo companies like this.
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HardDiskD posted:What do you guys do in the notice period? One of the reasons that I'm leaving my job is that there was nothing to do, and me putting in notice didn't magically change the situation. During my last notice period I spent the entire time helping my manager plan out the work for the entire upcoming year down to the 2 week sprint level for a project I was never going to be on and was actively trying to disengage from. My managers expectations were way too aggressive but my level of not giving a gently caress was incredibly high so I didn't push back too hard. I did tell her that everything past the first month was going to change drastically and that I didn't think the goals for the year were even close to realistic, but mostly I just wanted to get out of the meetings without burning bridges. It was a fair penance to pay though considering a few months earlier the project I was working on was cancelled and I spent the next month with nothing to do but practice for interviews all day which got me my current position 
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studying clojure it is then Jose Valasquez posted:During my last notice period I spent the entire time helping my manager plan out the work for the entire upcoming year down to the 2 week sprint level for a project I was never going to be on and was actively trying to disengage from. My managers expectations were way too aggressive but my level of not giving a gently caress was incredibly high so I didn't push back too hard. I did tell her that everything past the first month was going to change drastically and that I didn't think the goals for the year were even close to realistic, but mostly I just wanted to get out of the meetings without burning bridges. I'm not really senior enough to be planning projects, and this current place has some kind of allergy about documenting things (except for testing), and I don't give enough of a gently caress to dig into the projects' issues. My only regret is that it took me way too long to realize that they don't have anything coming down in the pipeline. Space Kablooey fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Jan 8, 2018 |
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HardDiskD posted:What do you guys do in the notice period? One of the reasons that I'm leaving my job is that there was nothing to do, and me putting in notice didn't magically change the situation. Piss off the CEO enough to get gardening leave, generally.
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After doing documentation for a week, I wrote a 2000+ word novel about my 3 year journey at the company in the style of Tolkien and sent about 250 words out each day as an ongoing adventure in our Slack channel. Then I just played Hearthstone, drank free lovely coffee, and made sure to own my co-workers in CS 1.5 before leaving.
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HardDiskD posted:)]))))))))) Sorry, I'm not hip enough to get this joke. Can someone explain?
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the talent deficit posted:why did you take the job without discussing working hours? Other remote workers pulled 9 to 5 their time from what I saw,so it seemed that it was acceptable. Next time I will be explicit about that.
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Love Stole the Day posted:Sorry, I'm not hip enough to get this joke. Can someone explain? It's a Lisp parens joke, but the fact is every other language with a pair of parens per functional call looks the same way if you nest your function calls.
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Doctor w-rw-rw- posted:Seattle, NYC, SF, and kinda-sorta Austin are the other decent engineering markets. For someone complaining that Boston is too expensive I don't think that's going to work.
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pigdog posted:Developing software for and with other people just isn't the kind of job that can be efficiently remoted in all but few cases. Nonsense. If anything, development is one of the best jobs to do remotely due to the need for isolation and quiet during the actual coding process. Even without a sophisticated communication setup, the vast majority of SW dev jobs would probably work out just fine with only one office day a week where everyone could collaborate/meet/bullshit together, and then the rest of the week go off to do their separate tasks. For everything else, Slack or a scheduled GoToMeeting/Webex works just fine for sharing ideas or asking questions. Orgs that require their developers to always be on-site typically have outdated concepts of managing people (non-tech F500s), a broken communication and planning process, or just want to pressure their employees into working more hours. Even if there is a small drop in efficiency with a fully remote team, those remote workers are likely to be far more satisfied with their jobs (1). Also, as a company, you can broaden your search to include more candidates than those within a ~60 minute driving distance. (1) https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2017#job-priorities
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If you have a good product team who can provide a decent spec and good engineers, remote kicks rear end. If your product team sucks and you have to incessantly meet with them and pester them, remote sucks worse than working in office with them (which, also, sucks).
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B-Nasty posted:Nonsense. God forbid a developer have like, a physical piece of hardware they need to test on. Unthinkable in the year 2018, must be evidence of outdated management processes. Code entry, and therefore typing proficiency, is the limiting factor of the majority of development.
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JawnV6 posted:a physical piece of hardware they need to test on I think you just invented the Uber... but for... delivering testing hardware to remote developers.... 
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Good Will Hrunting posted:I think you just invented the Uber... but for... delivering testing hardware to remote developers.... If you have to ship product to your remotes every time you iterate on the hardware design, you're introducing a lot of delays and potentially nontrivial expense. Plus of course the chance that the product gets damaged in shipping -- prototypes aren't necessarily all that robust.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:If you have to ship product to your remotes every time you iterate on the hardware design, you're introducing a lot of delays and potentially nontrivial expense. Plus of course the chance that the product gets damaged in shipping -- prototypes aren't necessarily all that robust. I wasn't serious at all, lol
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Wait, hang on lads, are you saying that.. are you saying that some workloads and roles are best done on site, while others are best offsite, and yet more somewhere in between? ARE YOU SUGGESTING THERE MAY BE A MIDDLE GROUND? Extraordinary.
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Jaded Burnout posted:Extra ordinary.
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Jaded Burnout posted:Wait, hang on lads, are you saying that.. are you saying that some workloads and roles are best done on site, while others are best offsite, and yet more somewhere in between? TooMuchAbstraction posted:If you have to ship product to your remotes every time you iterate on the hardware design, you're introducing a lot of delays and potentially nontrivial expense. Plus of course the chance that the product gets damaged in shipping -- prototypes aren't necessarily all that robust.
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JawnV6 posted:There's exactly one of these test cards in existence, it cost us 6 figures of NRE.... yo can we get a cheap bike courier to carry this thing around?? Are you saying hardware is worth more than a human life
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