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Aphrodite posted:That's true that's way too many. Explain Brooklyn, London, and every other show they did on the road, including her main roster debut, where she was super-over until Vince decided to re-do the 'Bryan is a virgin' angle AND the 'John Cena is a wuss who won't use a chair on Bray Wyatt' angle, except worse because she stayed a wuss and lost, unlike Cena staying a wuss and winning.
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 19:11 |
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Do it ironically posted:counterpoint rusev can get himself incredibly over no matter the terrible writing he is given, how many excuses does a wrestler get before you can just say they're not very good? There have been points where Rusev wasn't over either.
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 19:12 |
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Gaz-L posted:Explain Brooklyn, London, and every other show they did on the road, including her main roster debut, where she was super-over until Vince decided to re-do the 'Bryan is a virgin' angle AND the 'John Cena is a wuss who won't use a chair on Bray Wyatt' angle, except worse because she stayed a wuss and lost, unlike Cena staying a wuss and winning. They traveled.
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 19:12 |
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they also never let her be built up as the plucky, fun underdog in the context of WWE proper but gently caress that Everyone You Like Was Actually Always Bad the booking has absolutely nothing to do with anything
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 19:12 |
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MassRafTer posted:There have been points where Rusev wasn't over either. yeah Rusev has spent a lot of loving time doing nothing and getting no reactions between his high points
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 19:13 |
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Like how Balor lost his Lesnar match by not being over because he kept being squashed by Kane and going 50/50 with, like, Bo Dallas. Totally Balor's fault, he should've shoot kneecapped Kane when he went for the chokeslam.
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 19:14 |
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not to mention being involved with the Sister Abigale feud and losing to Wyatt clean on raw before Summerslam
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 19:15 |
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Rusev had a feud with Dolph Ziggler which is just as bad though.
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 19:16 |
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Someone can be over and still terrible.
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 19:17 |
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Rusev had a feud with Dolph Ziggler which is just as bad though. nobody has had a good feud with dolph ziggler he is the one who was Actually Always Bad
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 19:18 |
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Aphrodite posted:Someone can be over and still terrible. but enough about Alexa Bliss
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 19:18 |
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MassRafTer posted:There have been points where Rusev wasn't over either. All of NXT, for example, and his debut. My insistence that he was good fell on deaf ears and whoops I was right again.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Rusev had a feud with Dolph Ziggler which is just as bad though. Rusev did some good rear end poo poo in that feud.
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 19:19 |
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take the fish
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 19:20 |
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finn can't get over because he's like 5'8'' and it's not believable that he could win a match against someone like brock or braun who are huge, I mean I like finn but he's tiny and yes AJ is tiny but he's literally one of the best wrestlers in the world he can make up for it
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 19:20 |
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Aphrodite posted:Someone can be over and still terrible. Like who
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 19:20 |
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Aiden English got Rusev over, Rusev has done very little except stand beside him and smile.RacistGuidingLight posted:Like who Dean Ambrose.
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 19:20 |
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 19:21 |
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Do it ironically posted:finn can't get over because he's like 5'8'' and it's not believable that he could win a match against someone like brock or braun who are huge, I mean I like finn but he's tiny and yes AJ is tiny but he's literally one of the best wrestlers in the world he can make up for it Huh, good thing Finn is also one of the best in the world or he'd be in trouble, then. Seriously, this is the kind of poo poo that led to Rey Mysterio being shat on because they won't push cruisers as actually important, but Vince is also still stuck on the size thing. (Which is bizarre because he also fuckin' loves underdogs fighting from underneath)
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 19:22 |
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Do it ironically posted:finn can't get over because he's like 5'8'' and it's not believable that he could win a match against someone like brock or braun who are huge, I mean I like finn but he's tiny and yes AJ is tiny but he's literally one of the best wrestlers in the world he can make up for it i just rolled my eyes so hard they almost fell out of my head. Remember the lead up to Summerslam 2016? Finn was legit because he won. Just like AJ is legit because he wins. By the way AJ was still believable with Brock just like, with the same booking, Finn would have been believable. Are you Vince?
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 19:22 |
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Big Coffin Hunter posted:nobody has had a good feud with dolph ziggler ADR did. Which is impressive since no one else has had a good feud with ADR, either.
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 19:23 |
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"rey mysterio has never been good and of course he isn't over he's small" - a random WH2K poster in 2006Endless Mike posted:ADR did. Which is impressive since no one else has had a good feud with ADR, either. Well, they had a good moment and good match but I wouldn't say the feud overall was good
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 19:25 |
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RacistGuidingLight posted:Like who I was going to say Seth but idk if Seth is actually over anymore
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 19:25 |
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Every Balor match is exactly the same. He can't or is unwilling to mix it up.
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 19:25 |
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Untrue. Sometimes he does it with paint on.
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 19:27 |
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Finn is one of the best wrestlers in the world who always has a slightly boring match somehow in my opinion
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 19:28 |
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oldpainless posted:Finn is one of the best wrestlers in the world who always has a slightly boring match somehow in my opinion He has the same "wrestling robot" thing that Randy Orton does but he's better than Orton. It still keeps me from getting invested in most of his matches though.
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 19:29 |
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name someone on the main roster not named "AJ Styles" who doesn't do a lot of the same stuff. This is "Roman Reigns doesn't have good matches" all over again BTW you can't bring up Braun Strowman being given gimmick spots
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 19:29 |
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guys can be good and appropriately slotted with people their size, I'm sorry that your indie darling is just a ripped smaller dude, I like finn personally but as long as the wwe is pushing big dudes for the big belt it's hard to suspend disbelief that he could win the belt and successfully defend it
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 19:30 |
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Do it ironically posted:guys can be good and appropriately slotted with people their size, I'm sorry that your indie darling is just a ripped smaller dude, I like finn personally but as long as the wwe is pushing big dudes for the big belt it's hard to suspend disbelief that he could win the belt and successfully defend it yeah i don't know how shawn michaels was a realistic main eventer either
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 19:31 |
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if finn had michaels charisma we wouldn't be having this conversation
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 19:33 |
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Finn just needs to get more racist then he can run with the big dogs like AJ.
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 19:33 |
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also lmao at calling finn "my indie darling" since I've been pretty loving critical of his run but for about every reason except "he's small" and "his matches are kinda similar"
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 19:33 |
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MassRafTer posted:Finn just needs to get more racist then he can run with the big dogs like AJ. finn just needs to get racist and also get a hunting hobby and then he'll be the new Mr Wrestlemania
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 19:34 |
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Do it ironically posted:guys can be good and appropriately slotted with people their size, I'm sorry that your indie darling is just a ripped smaller dude, I like finn personally but as long as the wwe is pushing big dudes for the big belt it's hard to suspend disbelief that he could win the belt and successfully defend it this is, again, a failure of booking rather than performer
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 19:34 |
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in another timeline a butterfly flaps its wings, the cubs lose the series, trump isn't elected and balor has carried the belt for a year because he didnt get hurt the first time he got a shot at it
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 19:34 |
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Big Coffin Hunter posted:name someone on the main roster not named "AJ Styles" who doesn't do a lot of the same stuff. This is "Roman Reigns doesn't have good matches" all over again Not does the same stuff, does exclusively the same 12 things every time like he has a checklist.
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 19:35 |
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Bard Maddox posted:this is, again, a failure of booking rather than performer
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# ? Jan 9, 2018 19:35 |
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Aphrodite posted:Not does the same stuff, does exclusively the same 12 things every time like he has a checklist. I completely disagree, but then again you'd probably say the same thing about Roman Reigns and I would also disagree
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a lot of the things are also very boring
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