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seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal

Psychobabble! posted:

That's what I thought, but last night this popped up on the scanner at 1:14, notice that it has no weather boost(it was cloudy at the time):



So naturally I went over to get it because I wanted that fail whale, drat it, and it was close by. When I got there at 1:35, I got this weather boosted guy:



I was actually pretty bummed about it, tbh.

Anyways, so I'm leaning towards half an hour changes, or that they're at least possible if the weather changes but I haven't paid much attention to it. All I have to go on are those screenshots taken 20 mins apart that were in relatively close proximity to each other(about 1-2 miles)

I actually went to the lone Wailmer nest around Seattle and my cell service crapped out :(

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Psychobabble!
Jun 22, 2010

Observing this filth unsettles me

seiferguy posted:

I actually went to the lone Wailmer nest around Seattle and my cell service crapped out :(

Carkeek? Yeah my friends and I might give it a try tomorrow after raiding a bit but it's notorious for dropping signal, especially if you have T-Mobile. Legend says if you go in through the north side, like where the playground is, you have better luck (until you get deep in obviously but a lot of them seem to hang out on that side anyways).

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



i caught a near perfect iv level 35...natu today

not great but hey i want at least one of every pokemon at at least level 30 with above 90% ivs, so, cool~

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal

Psychobabble! posted:

Carkeek? Yeah my friends and I might give it a try tomorrow after raiding a bit but it's notorious for dropping signal, especially if you have T-Mobile. Legend says if you go in through the north side, like where the playground is, you have better luck (until you get deep in obviously but a lot of them seem to hang out on that side anyways).

Yeah. I have at&t, so I'm guessing GSM networks are bad there. I also went to the park after sundown, which... I would not recommend. It worked okay by the playground until I drove down a bit and that's where I lost my signal and realized it wasn't worth it.

Dr Tran
Dec 17, 2002

HE'S GOT A PH.D. IN
KICKING YOUR ASS!
After 4 months I finally get to do another Mewtwo raid. Weather changed to Windy, so it's boosted. Fucker ran.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

I got an expass for 10am next Tuesday. Hrmph.

kensei
Dec 27, 2007

He has come home, where he belongs. The Ancient Mariner returns to lead his first team to glory, forever and ever. Amen!


Dr Tran posted:

After 4 months I finally get to do another Mewtwo raid. Weather changed to Windy, so it's boosted. Fucker ran.

That sucks. I spent a lot of Rare Candy and dust on the 78IV one I caught just because I had no idea if I would get another. Spoiler: I have not even received another EX Pass :(

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

Mustached Demon posted:

I got an expass for 10am next Tuesday. Hrmph.

Yeah there was a EX raid today for 11am on a weekday. wtf is Niantic thinking?

Psychobabble!
Jun 22, 2010

Observing this filth unsettles me

Away all Goats posted:

Yeah there was a EX raid today for 11am on a weekday. wtf is Niantic thinking?

An idea I saw floated around that I kind of liked(besides "ditch the whole system altogether") was to have an RSVP system for EX raids, so if you can't make it, your pass goes out to someone else. It's not a fix for the problem but would be a bandaid at least(or hopefully at least make it so more people show up to said legendary raid).

I was poking around the Pogo reddit to see if I could find anything from Niantic addressing known issues(I don't use reddit but I've heard they've done that before?), and that led me down a rabbit hole of people complaining and man, you think people in this thread are bad about bitching about EX raids, holy moly. This one stood out particularly to me, enjoy:


:qq: My pokemans :qq:

Willsun
Dec 9, 2006

I willed too hard again...
This is good and I want more.

You'd think people who go online to discuss the game more would learn from anecdotes of casual people getting them without spending a fortune and maybe follow their footsteps so as to not get into a place where they anger spend and then regret it. But I guess "chill out" or "take it easy" is the hardest achievement for OCD players to earn.

Cowslips Warren
Oct 29, 2005

What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?

Grimey Drawer
To be fair, Niantic has said if you raid more and have more gold gyms, you have a better chance to get an EX pass. It might only be 1% chance higher than a casual. So when a bunch of people who barely raid get the EX passes, and high level daily raiders who keep as many gold gyms as possible, get none, you don't see why people get angry? You do what Niantic says increases your chances, because everything else is 'anecdotal.'

Dr Tran
Dec 17, 2002

HE'S GOT A PH.D. IN
KICKING YOUR ASS!
I got gold at my EX Raid location. Raid daily, but I'm not spending crazy amounts of money on the game.

I already threw 250 rare candy at my Mewtwo, but I'm holding out for a 90+IV one.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

It's funny as gently caress seeing people melt down about not getting one.

I work evenings/nights so 10am is right up my alley. :smugdog:

Beastyfella
Mar 5, 2008

I have lost all powers of reading comprehension and counting ability hours ago
It's raining in most of the city, and there's a billion lotad. It's windy in a few cells and there's a billion Ralts. And a seemingly decent increase in Dragonite spawns. A lot of the city is mt moon biome though.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Cowslips Warren posted:

To be fair, Niantic has said if you raid more and have more gold gyms, you have a better chance to get an EX pass. It might only be 1% chance higher than a casual. So when a bunch of people who barely raid get the EX passes, and high level daily raiders who keep as many gold gyms as possible, get none, you don't see why people get angry? You do what Niantic says increases your chances, because everything else is 'anecdotal.'

No, I don't. Just because a lot of people believe "increased chance" means "guaranteed" doesn't make it true.

Das Doppelganger
Dec 22, 2012

Psychobabble! posted:

"Stuff", and that led me down a rabbit hole of people complaining and man, you think people in this thread are bad about bitching about EX raids, holy moly. This one stood out particularly to me, enjoy:


:qq: My pokemans :qq:

People Suck.

Don't be a People.

Kheldarn
Feb 17, 2011



If you play on an Apple device, I hope it's one that can upgrade to iOS 11, because otherwise, you won't be able to play after 2/28/18.

Here's the list of devices that are affected:
iPhone 5c (Model numbers A1456, A1507, A1516, A1529, A1532)
iPhone 5 (Model numbers A1428, A1429, A1442)
iPad 4th Gen (Model numbers A1458, A1459, A1460)
iPad 3rd Gen (Model numbers A1416, A1430, A1403)
iPad Mini 1st Gen (Model numbers A1432, A1454, A1455)
iPad 2 (Model numbers A1395, A1396, A1397)

Psychobabble!
Jun 22, 2010

Observing this filth unsettles me
I raid a moderate amount and have never gotten a pass, but I choose to raid in a neighborhood that unfortunately doesn't have a ton of sponsored gyms; what it does have is a really solid raid community that will wait for people, jump out if someone runs up a little too late(at least the first time, sometimes two), people who hang around and chat, etc.

So to me its more fun to raid there and if someday I get an ex raid pass, rad. If not, lovely but oh well.

Now there are people in this community who are way more extreme(a group of which go out every Sunday 6am-12 as a caravan and raid) who haven't gotten raid passes at all or just until recently and even they manage to be adults about it and just go :shrug: well this sucks.

So seeing screaming piss babies complaining because they raid like, every day, and some FILTHY CASUAL got a pass makes me appreciate how overall rad and chill my local pogo community is.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

Kheldarn posted:

If you play on an Apple device, I hope it's one that can upgrade to iOS 11, because otherwise, you won't be able to play after 2/28/18.

Here's the list of devices that are affected:
iPhone 5c (Model numbers A1456, A1507, A1516, A1529, A1532)
iPhone 5 (Model numbers A1428, A1429, A1442)
iPad 4th Gen (Model numbers A1458, A1459, A1460)
iPad 3rd Gen (Model numbers A1416, A1430, A1403)
iPad Mini 1st Gen (Model numbers A1432, A1454, A1455)
iPad 2 (Model numbers A1395, A1396, A1397)

:psyduck:


The biggest people impacted will probably be all the parents that have their old iPhone 5 to their 5-8 year olds to play on WiFi and now that won’t work.

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

Kheldarn posted:

If you play on an Apple device, I hope it's one that can upgrade to iOS 11, because otherwise, you won't be able to play after 2/28/18.

Here's the list of devices that are affected:
iPhone 5c (Model numbers A1456, A1507, A1516, A1529, A1532)
iPhone 5 (Model numbers A1428, A1429, A1442)
iPad 4th Gen (Model numbers A1458, A1459, A1460)
iPad 3rd Gen (Model numbers A1416, A1430, A1403)
iPad Mini 1st Gen (Model numbers A1432, A1454, A1455)
iPad 2 (Model numbers A1395, A1396, A1397)

What a really weird non-way of warning people.
Is the app going to run or not?
And is the app going to run on newer devices that haven't updated to iOS 11?

quote:

If your device is not listed as an affected device:
No action is required. You will continue to be able to access Pokémon GO without interruption.

I guess that implies it will still run on IOS 9+, iff your device is 5S/Air1 or newer???

Willsun
Dec 9, 2006

I willed too hard again...

Julio Cruz posted:

No, I don't. Just because a lot of people believe "increased chance" means "guaranteed" doesn't make it true.

Psychobabble! posted:

So seeing screaming piss babies complaining because they raid like, every day, and some FILTHY CASUAL got a pass makes me appreciate how overall rad and chill my local pogo community is.

Good people. My town is very nice about raids too and we enjoy helping kids or less experienced people get what they want.

I just hope those who think they spent more money/time entitles them to an EX raid pass don't gamble because they're a casino's best preyfriend.

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

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I personally think EX passes should be distributed evenly among players and not determined by how much of a hardcore raider that you are (to be fair, I think they should just get rid of the dumb system overall, but I digress). I'm still on bronze for both of my raid medals and I have a feeling that's probably a factor in why I haven't gotten one yet. I really need to just bite it sometimes and do more level 1s and 2s when no one is around.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

I like the current system (even though I’ve never gotten one) for the simple fact that it causes meltdowns from manbabies. Good poo poo.

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal

Henrik Zetterberg posted:

I like the current system (even though I’ve never gotten one) for the simple fact that it causes meltdowns from manbabies. Good poo poo.

You like policy in place solely to trigger people?

Welcome to the Republican party.

White Light
Dec 19, 2012

Henrik Zetterberg posted:

I like the current system (even though I’ve never gotten one) for the simple fact that it causes meltdowns from manbabies. Good poo poo.

Who knew Mitch McConnell was a PoGO player!

Chairman Mao
Apr 24, 2004

The Chinese Communist Party is the core of leadership of the whole Chinese people. Without this core, the cause of socialism cannot be victorious.
Niantic constantly trolling Pokemon go players is the best part of this game.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

seiferguy posted:

You like policy in place solely to trigger people?

Welcome to the Republican party.

You got the wrong these days. Now it's triggered alt right wackos getting fired.

Willsun
Dec 9, 2006

I willed too hard again...

seiferguy posted:

I personally think EX passes should be distributed evenly among players and not determined by how much of a hardcore raider that you are (to be fair, I think they should just get rid of the dumb system overall, but I digress). I'm still on bronze for both of my raid medals and I have a feeling that's probably a factor in why I haven't gotten one yet. I really need to just bite it sometimes and do more level 1s and 2s when no one is around.

I don't think your achievement badges for raiding normal/legendary has anything to do with it. I feel like there were just as many people saying casual players were getting EX raid passes over people who tried really hard raiding as there were people who said they only hear of hardcore raiders being the only ones to get EX passes (this one is more obvious because if you don't barely do raids, you won't even qualify the minimal requirements to get a pass).

For the latest wave that was given out, a group of 3 people who raid together said only 2 of them got it and they're not much different from each other in exp levels or raid activity and they all raided the gym that the EX pass was given to equal amount of times since they ride together. I can only guess the game tries to give out an equal split to people who have high status (raided at that gym more, has higher silver/gold status) and low status (only recently visited the gym for the first time, maybe not even bronze status), and one person from that group of 3 just got passed over. One of the Mewtwo raids today barely had enough people to beat it because the gym gave out a few passes to people who only came back to town for winter break, raided at that gym maybe once or twice and got the invite, and had to leave before the raid today.

tl;dr All theories about how EX raid passes are given out are both true and untrue at the same time because no one is guaranteed anything.

Robokomodo
Nov 11, 2009

Duckman2008 posted:

:psyduck:


The biggest people impacted will probably be all the parents that have their old iPhone 5 to their 5-8 year olds to play on WiFi and now that won’t work.

My son will murder me in my sleep. Thanks Niantic.

Kheldarn
Feb 17, 2011



~Coxy posted:

What a really weird non-way of warning people.
Is the app going to run or not?
And is the app going to run on newer devices that haven't updated to iOS 11?


I guess that implies it will still run on IOS 9+, iff your device is 5S/Air1 or newer???

The Help Article that page links to says:

What do I need to do?

If your device is listed as an affected device:

Trainers using affected devices will need to switch to a device that meets our supported device requirements to continue to access Pokémon GO. Trainers who attempt to access Pokémon GO using any of the devices listed above will no longer be able to sign in and will see a message stating that they need to switch to a supported device.

endlessmonotony
Nov 4, 2009

by Fritz the Horse

~Coxy posted:

What a really weird non-way of warning people.
Is the app going to run or not?
And is the app going to run on newer devices that haven't updated to iOS 11?


I guess that implies it will still run on IOS 9+, iff your device is 5S/Air1 or newer???

The actual answer is clear - the app is dropping 32bit processor support.

White Light
Dec 19, 2012

Something needs to be done about that EX pass system, I'm throwing my voice into the choir here.

Been consistently raiding daily, no passes given. I did ONE raid with my junk valor account to help another group out with a Groudon, got an EX invite for it a few days back. The last time I ever used that account for raids it was back when Zapdos was out in early August(?) from last year.

They need a points system to fix this, would really help tip the scales back to the series vets.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS

Parrotine posted:

would really help tip the scales back to the series vets.

This has never been niantic’s goal or design since this game came out. They don’t want to do that specifically.

Making EX less opaque, absolutely, I think most people would want that. This? Not likely.

Chairman Mao
Apr 24, 2004

The Chinese Communist Party is the core of leadership of the whole Chinese people. Without this core, the cause of socialism cannot be victorious.
Opaque is good, keeps people from aggressively gaming the system. They need to balance things behind the scenes to give people who have never received a pass a better shot at getting their first one though.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS

Chairman Mao posted:

Opaque is good, keeps people from aggressively gaming the system. They need to balance things behind the scenes to give people who have never received a pass a better shot at getting their first one though.

I mean, you're not wrong. But given the choice between a broken opaque system or a broken slightly more transparent system, i think you could make the case it's the less bad of two bad choices to at least know some of how it works.

that's sort of not the main point I was trying to make anyway, which was that "tilting the balance" towards series veterans has explicitly been something Niantic has not done, on purpose, the entire time they've been developing Go.

White Light
Dec 19, 2012

Psion posted:

This has never been niantic’s goal or design since this game came out. They don’t want to do that specifically.

Making EX less opaque, absolutely, I think most people would want that. This? Not likely.

I get what you're saying, but giving out an EX pass to an account that did one raid in six months over a regular player who gets nothing is a pretty big issue no matter how you look at it. You are also alienating the player base that puts the lion share of the company revenue in your pocket, casual players never drop a dime into the game.

The hardcore shouldn't be given more tools to 'game' the system with, but they should be given something instead of nothing at all.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS

Parrotine posted:

casual players never drop a dime into the game.

lmao, wrong

look, you're frustrated, I get that. The system is frustratingly opaque and probably broken, we agree. Thinking it should change to accommodate the hardcore specifically? That's against Niantic's deliberate design goals. Ones which, I might add, are making them loving huge quantities of money.

e: I can't see it happening unless they also do something to draw in more casual players. Look at the gym rework; was that designed for the level 40s? Sure no. Did it lose them a bunch of money? Sure didn't. And high level players already have something. You just want something more.

this isn't about whether or not I like what they're doing - that's not even relevant. But it's fundamentally part of Go that it is not a hardcore Pokemon game catering to the hardcore Pokemon players and it hasn't been since day one. So you have to consider things through that lens. :shrug:

Psion fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Jan 10, 2018

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Parrotine posted:

The hardcore shouldn't be given more tools to 'game' the system with, but they should be given something instead of nothing at all.

They're given a better chance at EX passes. There has to be some randomness in the system otherwise the only people to ever get passes will be level 40 players with 1000+ raids and casual/f2p players will never even see a Mewtwo.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Psion posted:

lmao, wrong

look, you're frustrated, I get that. The system is stupid, we agree. Thinking it should change to accommodate the hardcore specifically? That's against Niantic's deliberate design goals. Ones which, I might add, are making them loving huge quantities of money.

Clearly pokemon spawns should increase based off the distance traveled in any given session.

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Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS

Mustached Demon posted:

Clearly pokemon spawns should increase based off the distance traveled in any given session.

My plan to attach my phone to a quadcopter and software-limit it to just under the GPS speed limit, yes, yessssss

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