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IcePhoenix posted:Selling works as well. Buy some gold cylinders, go salvage with them at dock #2 (the place you were at when you got to the continent for the first time), turn in everything at the salavge trader for 35k+ a pop, repeat until dev 5 This does it fast, I've had Mor Ardain at level 5 for about 60 hours of my 80 hour game time. The thing is that just raising the dev level doesn't work. You'll also need to raise it in Tantal and Gormott to get the merc missions that you need to finish off the shops. The game doesn't explain this brilliantly and definitely gives the impression that all you need is the Dev level and nothing else.
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# ? Jan 11, 2018 18:28 |
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Just put Overdrive Boosters in the shops you dumb fuckin' game. Make them cost ten million gold if you want and need dev level five, just do it and I'll give you fifty more hours and get your season pass.
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# ? Jan 11, 2018 18:32 |
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I mean, you can get the expansion pass... for three overdrives! That's one per ten bucks!
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# ? Jan 11, 2018 18:49 |
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Make them a merc reward. Make it take an hour and need Strength 35+ or whatever.
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# ? Jan 11, 2018 18:51 |
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Reiterpallasch posted:It's not a great niche, but it is a niche, which is more than the really dreadful tanks (hi, Perceval!) can say. I saw people online talking about Perceval being really good, and I can't for the life of me figure out why from looking at his skills. He seems based around killing adds, but I feel like you'd normally want to seal a boss's reinforcements (if they have reinforcements to begin with; if they don't it seems like he just kinda sucks). Taear posted:Because Nia has Perceval for me I'd never used him until just recently and I was super surprised to see that he was a Tank. I'd never realised! It just doesn't seem to fit him at all. He has a katana. All blades with a particular weapon are the same class. It seems like this should be really obvious by the time you've opened more than a handful of cores (or from just looking at a character's weapon skills). PJOmega posted:The accents definitely threw me, but I was glad for them after a short while. Yeah, my issue isn't with the accents so much as just awkward timing and the tone feeling vaguely "off" a lot of the time.
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Ytlaya posted:He has a katana. All blades with a particular weapon are the same class. It seems like this should be really obvious by the time you've opened more than a handful of cores (or from just looking at a character's weapon skills). I opened him absolutely ages ago and all I ever do is send him on merc missions. I never notice the weapon when I'm doing that unless it specifically calls attention to it. (like one that says "Bitball" being needed and etc) And honestly I hadn't noticed it until someone in this thread mentioned it. All I was looking at was "Is this a rare?" then totally ignoring it. The types of weapons didn't matter to me until much later. Taear fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Jan 11, 2018 |
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They'll add more Overdrives to the game in the next update as a rare drop in Tiger Tiger
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# ? Jan 11, 2018 20:00 |
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I don't think I've ever played a game where I was so enamored with the combat and general systems, but so repulsed by the writing and story (with the exception of Sheba, who knows exactly what's good in life) I'm like a 100 hours into this poo poo fest, and I don't think I'm stopping anytime soon. Do I ever get to take the story blades off of people? Dromarch is 'fine', but I'd really like the ability to switch him out for a non-water blade (to better pair with Nia's Sheba/Boreas setup). Gato The Elder fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Jan 11, 2018 |
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97 Legendary blades opened yesterday and today. On #5 with 999 luck. Everytime using full boosters to hit 13 or 14 value in the respective stats. All done in front of the Mor Ardain trade guild because you can only hold 25 at a time for whatever reason. I started off needing Kos-Mos & Dahlia. At the end I need Kos-Mos & Dahlia. To add insult to injury, there was a single Orb Master in the whole batch. A 2*, single tier Orb Master.
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Ytlaya posted:I saw people online talking about Perceval being really good, and I can't for the life of me figure out why from looking at his skills. He seems based around killing adds, but I feel like you'd normally want to seal a boss's reinforcements (if they have reinforcements to begin with; if they don't it seems like he just kinda sucks). It's because he's really dodgy in a lot of abusable ways.
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OMG sriracha pudding! posted:I don't think I've ever played a game where I was so enamored with the combat and general systems, but so repulsed by the writing and story (with the exception of Sheba, who knows exactly what's good in life) Yes. Once you hit chapter 8 you can remove all story blades if you feel like it, except for Pyra.
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PJOmega posted:97 Legendary blades opened yesterday and today. On #5 with 999 luck. Everytime using full boosters to hit 13 or 14 value in the respective stats. All done in front of the Mor Ardain trade guild because you can only hold 25 at a time for whatever reason. So, is Kos-Mos better than Sheba? 'Cause I've heard that's the case, and I'm having trouble imagining it.
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# ? Jan 11, 2018 20:13 |
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PJOmega posted:97 Legendary blades opened yesterday and today. On #5 with 999 luck. Everytime using full boosters to hit 13 or 14 value in the respective stats. All done in front of the Mor Ardain trade guild because you can only hold 25 at a time for whatever reason. I never used boosters so maybe boosters gently caress with the rare blade drop rate?
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PJOmega posted:97 Legendary blades opened yesterday and today. On #5 with 999 luck. Everytime using full boosters to hit 13 or 14 value in the respective stats. All done in front of the Mor Ardain trade guild because you can only hold 25 at a time for whatever reason. sounds about right FWIW I only got a single rare blade from the dozens of legendary cores I opened. The rest were from rare and common cores
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# ? Jan 11, 2018 20:14 |
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U-DO Burger posted:They'll add more Overdrives to the game in the next update Would still be less soul crushing than the current means of farming them.
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# ? Jan 11, 2018 20:15 |
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CharlestheHammer posted:I never used boosters so maybe boosters gently caress with the rare blade drop rate? All my rares I've been using boosters for. Which I know is totally meaningless. Maybe if you specifically use Justice (for Light) boosters and whichever one is good for Ice?
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# ? Jan 11, 2018 20:16 |
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Taear posted:All my rares I've been using boosters for. Yeah but I got all my rare blades in significantly quicker than like everyone here.
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I posted a few days ago about not being able to defeat Akhos/Malos at the end of Ch3. I got some decent advice but I still can't win. I'm extremely irritated. I went around doing other stuff for a while and grinding some levels. I found a shop that sold anti-shackle stuff so I'm less affected by that. I switched to Nia so I could control the healing on my own. I even practiced the chain attacks and started pulling them off for the first time pretty consistently. My hurdles still: I can't get my other two characters to attack Akhos. I know the other dude has taunt but even so once they target Malos I can't get them back; I'm aware that switching targets is R+A or Y but my controlled character is the only one that listens to my command. Chain attacks don't even come up so I can't get to stage three; I think this is because dudes keep dyin'. I don't have any way to record or stream, but could someone help me out please? I can't believe how long this is taking me. Maybe I don't have enough skills unlocked on characters/blades? In any case, this game reminds me of FFXV last year. Some things are awesome and keep my attention and plenty of other design decisions are terrible/unexplainable but I keep playing. In return for my whining, I've gathered some posts that would be helpful for the OP. Zoran posted:
Aithon posted:
U-DO Burger posted:
Incomplete List of Story Blades (?) Zoran posted:
On missable content: RazzleDazzleHour posted:
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The Sean posted:My hurdles still: I can't get my other two characters to attack Akhos. I know the other dude has taunt but even so once they target Malos I can't get them back; I'm aware that switching targets is R+A or Y but my controlled character is the only one that listens to my command. Chain attacks don't even come up so I can't get to stage three; I think this is because dudes keep dyin'. Press left on the D-pad to make your party members target the enemy you are currently targeting
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The Sean posted:I posted a few days ago about not being able to defeat Akhos/Malos at the end of Ch3. I got some decent advice but I still can't win. I'm extremely irritated. I went around doing other stuff for a while and grinding some levels. I found a shop that sold anti-shackle stuff so I'm less affected by that. I switched to Nia so I could control the healing on my own. I even practiced the chain attacks and started pulling them off for the first time pretty consistently. Hit left on the DPad to tell the AI to focus on your target. I think the game mentions it as a throwaway line when it teaches you how to lure and this is basically the first time it's really necessary so I'm not shocked you don't remember. If they are still affected by taunt it won't work, obv, but keep pushing it and they'll switch when they're able.
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# ? Jan 11, 2018 20:22 |
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The Sean posted:I posted a few days ago about not being able to defeat Akhos/Malos at the end of Ch3. I got some decent advice but I still can't win. I'm extremely irritated. I went around doing other stuff for a while and grinding some levels. I found a shop that sold anti-shackle stuff so I'm less affected by that. I switched to Nia so I could control the healing on my own. I even practiced the chain attacks and started pulling them off for the first time pretty consistently. Edit: beaten twice
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# ? Jan 11, 2018 20:28 |
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God drat the music is so loving good in this game. I'm starting to feel it's better than XC1's soundtrack.
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# ? Jan 11, 2018 21:03 |
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Louisgod posted:God drat the music is so loving good in this game. I'm starting to feel it's better than XC1's soundtrack. I really enjoy the Indol and Tantal music. I think it's because it has lyrics, but it's great.
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# ? Jan 11, 2018 21:07 |
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Taear posted:I really enjoy the Indol and Tantal music. I think it's because it has lyrics, but it's great. I haven't even gotten that far yet but Gormott and Mor Ardain's overworld music is brilliantly conducted. Like the first soundtrack, putting on headphones makes you appreciate it even more as you pick up on the more muted nuances of the instruments they used.
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Louisgod posted:I haven't even gotten that far yet but Gormott and Mor Ardain's overworld music is brilliantly conducted. Like the first soundtrack, putting on headphones makes you appreciate it even more as you pick up on the more muted nuances of the instruments they used. Gormott is like Gaur Plains 2.0, and Mor Ardain's theme is like Wild Arms. So loving good. The Indol and Tantal town themes are done by Mitsuda in his religious choral style. Look forward to those, they own so much
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Louisgod posted:I haven't even gotten that far yet but Gormott and Mor Ardain's overworld music is brilliantly conducted. Like the first soundtrack, putting on headphones makes you appreciate it even more as you pick up on the more muted nuances of the instruments they used. Gormott is Gaur Plains as gently caress and I love it. The Mor Ardain music vaguely reminds me of Bloody Tears from Castlevania, and I don't know why. Both are super good! Sure beats the pants of the music from XCX, which barring a few exceptions I couldn't stand.
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CharlestheHammer posted:I never used boosters so maybe boosters gently caress with the rare blade drop rate? I've mentioned this a couple times before, but I'm basically certain that boosters boost the average star rating of commons you pull for their respective elements. The "boosters increase chance of X element" theory doesn't really make sense once you take into account the existence of characters' permanent idea levels. Theoretically once you maxed your idea levels, it would no longer be possible to increase your chance of getting a particular element blade (if this were true). I have also all-but-confirmed that high idea levels = high common star ratings. My Five with ~10-11 base idea for all ideas almost always pulls 3* commons, while my other party members with only ~4-5 of each idea average 2* pulls. Five virtually never pulls 1* commons anymore. Louisgod posted:God drat the music is so loving good in this game. I'm starting to feel it's better than XC1's soundtrack. Counterattack (the "dramatic stuff happening during a cutscene" theme) > Engage the Enemy IMO. Also the battle theme when you fight Rosa owns. None of the boss battle themes are quite as good as You Will Know Our Names, though. They're still really good, though, and I think there are more of them than there were in XC1. Silver Falcon posted:The Mor Ardain music vaguely reminds me of Bloody Tears from Castlevania, and I don't know why. Both are super good! Sure beats the pants of the music from XCX, which barring a few exceptions I couldn't stand. Yeah, I hated most of XCX's music. Sawano's music is okay for anime, but it's all very, very samey and doesn't work well in a video game. Once you've heard one Sawano soundtrack, you've basically heard them all. Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 21:52 on Jan 11, 2018 |
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Ytlaya posted:I've mentioned this a couple times before, but I'm basically certain that boosters boost the average star rating of commons you pull for their respective elements. The "boosters increase chance of X element" theory doesn't really make sense once you take into account the existence of characters' permanent idea levels. Theoretically once you maxed your idea levels, it would no longer be possible to increase your chance of getting a particular element blade (if this were true). Your theory falls apart if there is an additional bonus when you go past idea level 10, as characters max out at 10 (and it can be increased to 15 with boosters) quote:Counterattack (the "dramatic stuff happening during a cutscene" theme) > Engage the Enemy IMO. Also the battle theme when you fight Rosa owns. Counterattack is super good
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Ytlaya posted:Yeah, I hated most of XCX's music. Sawano's music is okay for anime, but it's all very, very samey and doesn't work well in a video game. Once you've heard one Sawano soundtrack, you've basically heard them all. I really enjoyed the XCX ones with the exceptions of the times it's screaming out over a cutscene. But I can't really hear music unless it has lyrics. If you played me the themes of anywhere without lyrics in I wouldn't recognise it at all. So when a game uses them it's a huge novelty to me.
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# ? Jan 11, 2018 21:56 |
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Ive never gotten a rare blade with a booster so I stopped using them. Holy poo poo 97 legendary cores and no rares what is wrong with this game.
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# ? Jan 11, 2018 21:56 |
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Gormott and Mor Ardain having the best themes checks out because they're also the best areas in the game. XCX had forgettable music with the exception of NLA night theme which is so heckin dope. Also I only ever used boosters to get them out of my inventory because that's another series of inputs that eat up time when you need to open 50+ cores. I find it interesting that out of every rare blade you could "randomly" pull, someone else had their last two unobtained blades be Dahlia and KOS-MOS also. I didn't have a problem with the rare blade drop rate until I got into like chapter 8 where it just slowed to a crawl, and now in the postgame it took me 150+ rare/legendary cores to pull KOSMOS. Thankfully now that I have Five's goofy ether cannon build, a maxed out Poppi, and an essentially unkillable Rex, I'm running out of things I feel motivated to do and might finally play something else. Maybe.
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I got kosmos on an unboosted random crystal right after getting the fifth party member. My girlfriend pulled Dahlia as her third rare back in gormott, right after Nim. I'm actually sitting on ninety common crystals at chapter 8 that I kind of am not looking forward to using, and instead pulled out Nim on a rare. None of my legendary crystals have ever gotten anything beyond a common guy. Basically there's no rhyme or reason and we won't know until some homebrew guy finds the math in like two years.
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I just finished the game. It ended exactly how I thought it would and did the Sad Thing That Happens followed by The Undoing of The Sad Thing That Happens every jrpg has a habit of doing and I still loved it. I never got my Zenobia past level 2 trust and she was still busted as gently caress. Also Poppi QTPie is a dumb blade, that allows Tora to be a tank that shits damage while also being able to single-handedly do a Driver Combo alone. It's the best.
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# ? Jan 11, 2018 22:47 |
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NG+ is coming out this month still! There's a hundred hours more fun to be had! Also, no disrespecting Tantal's theme, aka the best song in the game. I had that on loop for a pretty long time yesterday while shopping and I did not get tired of it one bit. For reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWkz0DF-3g8
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:Gormott and Mor Ardain having the best themes checks out because they're also the best areas in the game. XCX had forgettable music with the exception of NLA night theme which is so heckin dope. I thought I was the only one who loved the hell out of the NLA theme
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# ? Jan 11, 2018 22:50 |
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yeah Tantal has some of the best music, including the theme Nintendo used to make their sweet music video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv5CifO4KtA
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Barudak posted:Ive never gotten a rare blade with a booster so I stopped using them. I just want the quests at this point. I haven't had a problem with the superbosses so far, but all of the blades still have gold chip weapons because I keep having to go back and get more cores. I want to love this game. I want to recommend it to others. But I cannot. It has too many utterly bizarre choices of content gated behind randomness that I'd feel bad. And it isn't only equipment. I'd be annoyed by 1/255 equip drops in TYOOL 2017/18 but whatever. This is story content. Especially when there are things like The World Ends With You Remastered coming out on the Switch on the horizon.
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Amppelix posted:NG+ is coming out this month still! There's a hundred hours more fun to be had! Have they announced if blades and their trust levels will carry over? Because if you have to go through the gashapon and trust grind again there's no way I'll even consider it.
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# ? Jan 11, 2018 22:57 |
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I hope it doesn't take Nin long to start selling the soundtrack
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Amppelix posted:NG+ is coming out this month still! There's a hundred hours more fun to be had! Will it have the extra Torna blades? I've been ignoring post-game content since I'd rather do that stuff with a NG+ if NG+ is required to use the Torna blades. Also, will it have higher difficulty? It would be fun to play with access to all previously unlocked blades but a higher difficulty to make up for it. A lot of the earlier story content isn't that fun gameplay-wise, since it doesn't take advantage of a lot of the game's neater mechanics (like blade switching, combos, chain attacks, etc). edit: Generally speaking, I never enjoy NG+ if there isn't a correspondingly higher difficulty; it just isn't fun effortlessly destroying everything. I had this issue with P5 NG+, where I had to self-limit myself from checking higher level personas out of the compendium. IcePhoenix posted:Your theory falls apart if there is an additional bonus when you go past idea level 10, as characters max out at 10 (and it can be increased to 15 with boosters) No, even then it still doesn't make sense, because it would mean that boosters would give a smaller bonus as your ideas leveled up (while still being limited to only using 5 at once). a 15/10/10/10 spread would give less of a relative bonus to getting the elements associated with the 15 than a 5/1/1/1 spread would for the 5. Characters having their own ideas that level up when you do things simply doesn't jive with the idea that boosters - which increase idea levels - increase your chance of getting blades of that element. Meanwhile, it's all-but-confirmed that idea levels do influence star rating of commons. Taear posted:But I can't really hear music unless it has lyrics. If you played me the themes of anywhere without lyrics in I wouldn't recognise it at all. So when a game uses them it's a huge novelty to me. That is genuinely strange, and I don't mean that as an insult or negative thing; it's legitimately something I don't think I've ever heard of before. Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Jan 11, 2018 |
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