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Yang should be exactly in the middle, for he's a pragmatic that has food at home, but gets alcohol cravings for junk food and also needs a coffee the next morning to nurture his hangover.
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Jan 5, 2018 08:12
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Jan 5, 2018 08:48
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Gaius Marius posted:The Novels/show also take an absolute ton from the romance of the three kingdoms, and other classics of chinese history. I believe that the author is a specialist in Classical chinese history so it makes sense. I was very amused, when reading The Dark Forest by Cixin Liu, to come across a reference to Yang Wenli in the text, which the translator had helpfully footnoted on the assumption that the Western audience wouldn't be as familiar with Legend of the Galactic Heroes as the original Chinese audience presumably were.
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Jan 5, 2018 10:59
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Billzasilver posted:
It's the anti-alcohol. Alcohol is the friend to all mankind. Therefore, coffee is the enemy of man.
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Jan 5, 2018 13:00
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Did anyone watch Star Wars episode 8 and think of the commanders on all sides being realistic talentless hacks? Small spoilers but the first order admiral always tells ALL ships to do something 
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Jan 9, 2018 21:03
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Billzasilver posted:Did anyone watch Star Wars episode 8 and think of the commanders on all sides being realistic talentless hacks? Not really. They all seemed like exceptional talentless hacks. As astounding as real military failures can be, it's pretty uncommon to have leadership lose due to falling for prank calls or provoking a mutiny by the most loyal officers within the first day on the job. And unlike the typical example in LoGH, we were supposed to take the Resistance fuckups as essentially competent people. Kind of soured me on the film, to be honest.
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Jan 9, 2018 22:15
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commander purple hair was basically an instructional on leadership: how-to-not-do-it
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Jan 10, 2018 09:11
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But it subverted our expectations and therefore it is a movie without fault.
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Jan 10, 2018 14:13
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I am perfectly happy enjoying The Last Jedi on a very cined "these subversions are all incredible examples of the hubris of everyone that has come before and a great metaphor for the destruction of reactionary republican / jedi ideology that birthed the whole situation, also obviously and the The WW2 bombing run scene is what killed it for me because they could have done the exact same scene with better creative direction on the part of the bombing run, literally preformed it nearly scene for scene direction wise, if they had a better and more consistent tone to the action of the film. Why where the bombers functionally exactly as slow as the capital ships? Why couldn't the actual bombing process be something more like a torpedo run without shining a giant light on how stupid "dropping bombs like there is horizontal gravity in space" looks. It was loving B movie level poo poo compared to the OT's taking action as an artful craft that deserves attention and refinement on the part of the production staff as artists. It feels like the scene was written in super vague story board to get the idea across and loving NOBODY stepped in to criticize how obviously and stupid a direct reading of that would be. Tiny changes to the production could have saved it before it ever got to rendering. The original Star Wars managed to make something as silly as WW2 fighters in space look "normal," or believable even if it doesn't hold up to extended scrutiny, there is clearly a difference in effort and care for feel and tone / suspension of disbelief on the part of the artist, it could absolutely have been done. It's just loving lame and it feels, for a movie this incredibly expensive, incredibly cheap and devoid of artistic merit. A lot of this same poo poo is what sunk the prequals with the gungan army stuff, and, and to an extent ROTJ for the ewoks. It's just so loving lazy for something that banks so much on the quality of its aesthetics as Star Wars. That said the lightsaber stuff in the new movies is so much better than prequels so you win some you lose some. LoGH may have silly Napoleonic Land Battle in space but it at the very least tries to take itself seriously and demand that its action has a weight and suspense to it and isn't just outright silly or a waste of the viewers time. Remember that entire episodes of this show are jerking off to it's own made up military poo poo and we enjoy that stuff and its fun, but we expect a degree of creativity and consistent artistic style and tone. For all the faults you can make for how the animation aged and the things you have to suspend to believe its action, LoGH doesn't betray this. For the kind of thing it's trying to be, a nerdy strategy war drama, it largely succeeds at being believable and that turns out to be pretty rare for sci fi and something that I think the show doesn't get a lot of credit for even by its fans. This show has cool spaceship fights, it might not be the best but holy poo poo does it hold up more than 90% of the poo poo you see out there.
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Jan 11, 2018 19:00
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You could've just started and stopped with them suicide-running a cruiser into the imperial megaship and wiping out it and most of the fleet as to why TLJ battles are terrible Like it undermines the entire concept of space battles in Star Wars on a fundamental level if you can just point a ship at an enemy fleet and jump directly into them at lightspeed to utterly annihilate them, like if that is what happens the rebels should be doing that in every single battle, without question. There's zero reason not to. It also makes the death star look like some podunk pop-shooter since I wager a similar action in regards to a planet would result in similar destruction. god, I LIKED THE MOVIE and it still gets me mad that that was considered some big strategic twist that nobody had ever until now thought of apparently.
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Jan 11, 2018 19:31
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I actually rewatched it. The first order detects they’re warming up the hyperdrive immediately. Admiral Idiot tells them to completely ignore it.
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Jan 11, 2018 19:33
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Billzasilver posted:I actually rewatched it. The first order detects they’re warming up the hyperdrive immediately. Admiral Idiot tells them to completely ignore it. That it was never done before was just an assumption so that anything in regards to space battle in Star Wars would make even the slightest bit of sense, and this completely trashes that. Also, if detection was all that mattered then hyperdrive stealth technology would be the most dangerous weapon in the entire galaxy.
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Jan 11, 2018 19:42
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See that's the sort of technical minutiae about TLJ that I couldn't give less of a poo poo about. Star Wars is a fantasy universe and has never concerned itself, I mean not really, with consistency on its more fantastical elements (which yes includes WWII-style space battles) in the same way say Star Trek would. The maneuver works in that movie and not in the other movies because it does now and not then, and really doesn't merit much discussion beyond that. The same with how the force is kind of whatever the gently caress the director thinks it is in any given movie. At this point it's best to give up on forcing these things to fit a specific mold and just kind of accept the elastic nature of that universe, even if it is dumb and often doesn't hold up to much logical scrutiny. What does ire me endlessly about the TLJ is the inundation of B plots with everyone not named Rey/Kylo/Luke, and how ultimately virtually every plot thread outside of those three is inconsequential and does not contribute to any sort of meaningful character arc (or I should say, a character arc pulled out of the ether suddenly for this movie alone). I hate to borrow the RLM term but this is "Wheel Spinning: The Movie", and I think a legitimate argument can be made that if you cut out every single scene in that movie that is not Rey/Kylo/Luke it is not only a better film it is also a film that still makes complete sense because nothing about the rest of characters matter with regards to how they are at the start vs. how they are at the end. The rest of the movie is a One Piece filler arc.
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Jan 11, 2018 20:00
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GoLambo posted:The WW2 bombing run scene is what killed it for me because they could have done the exact same scene with better creative direction on the part of the bombing run, literally preformed it nearly scene for scene direction wise, if they had a better and more consistent tone to the action of the film. Why where the bombers functionally exactly as slow as the capital ships? Why couldn't the actual bombing process be something more like a torpedo run without shining a giant light on how stupid "dropping bombs like there is horizontal gravity in space" looks. They’re magnets. Anyone who doesn’t understand that scene is using juggalo science.
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Jan 11, 2018 20:03
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Nate RFB posted:See that's the sort of technical minutiae about TLJ that I couldn't give less of a poo poo about. Like they all know exactly how powerful that is. So why aren't they doing it all the time, if you can smash an empty cruiser at lightspeed into an opposing fleet and wipe it out instantly, and explicitly know of this, how is it not the go-to attack plan from day 1 It's less technical minutiae and more makes the previous commanders all look like gigantic, horrifying idiot monsters for sacrificing unknown numbers of lives instead of taking the most direct route to victory that seems to have zero drawbacks whatsoever.
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Jan 11, 2018 20:13
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I still think you could shoot the ship down. It’s shields weren’t that strong, all the other ships were obliterated at just slightly closer range. You just have Admiral Idiot going  All ships ignore that Cruiser All ships fire on that cruiser!
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Jan 11, 2018 20:20
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Actually, remember in LoGh when they have the two fortresses fighting? It’s super obvious to Yang and Reinhard that you should just smash them together, but no one else in the entire universe thinks of it.
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Jan 11, 2018 20:23
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It's not a plot hole for a story not to provide an expository reason why an unconventional tactic that is shown working is unconventional.
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Jan 11, 2018 20:45
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I just finished the series a few weeks ago. This has probably been discussed a ton but the whole Terraism thing really diminishes the show for me. The whole presentation of it is so over-the-top evil that it doesn't feel like it belongs in a show like this. I guess it's just there to be an example of Yang's philosophy that terrorism has never accomplished anything besides setting history back. In terms of the space battles, I dislike how often it seems like an admiral goes "Shoot them with our guns!" and it seems to make a huge difference, like that wasn't what their soldiers were doing before they gave the order. The battles are mostly the equivalent of technobabble anyways so it's not a huge deal. Other than that it was great.
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Jan 11, 2018 22:23
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I think everyone agrees the earth cult is the weakest part of the show. They're so one dimensional and it stands out so much compared to how nuanced the other factions are. It would bloat the narrative even more than it already is but I would have liked it if there were some more characters on that side that we could have followed and gotten another perspective from. I wonder if the new show will try to fix that but I think they're aiming to compress things so maybe it's better to just cut the earth cult scenes down to a bare minimum instead.
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Jan 11, 2018 22:35
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Doubt the new show will even get to the earth cult in any substantial way, they barely become relevant in any way other than being Rubinsky’s mysterious backers until after Reinhard wins.
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Jan 11, 2018 22:41
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Jan 11, 2018 22:59
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Rubinsky is suave and amoral puppet master type who always knows what’s up and frequently explains machinations of the plot to the audience. His appeal is like that of Varys or Littlefinger in Game of Thrones, he is smugly scheming at all times while keeping his hands clean and his basic motives unclear. Like those characters, this runs the risk that his motives when eventually revealed be a let down. In this case it’s a mondo let down because the earth cult has no particularly charismatic characters and isn’t really interesting or sympathetic in anyway, they are just a bunch of cartoon bads.
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Jan 11, 2018 23:06
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It should've turned out to have been a pyramid scheme a previous Landesherr of Phezzan set up gone horribly wrong. That would've redeemed them.
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Jan 12, 2018 00:42
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TheKingofSprings posted:Why is Rubinsky so good Because he kills Phezzan's Yang/Reinhardt equivalent.
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Jan 12, 2018 00:58
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Only thing I like is that after all the failed schemes of men Phezzan ends up as capital of the galaxy anyway for no reason but geography.
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Jan 12, 2018 02:13
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Captain Invictus posted:I dunno, "one weird trick to instantly nullify any technological advantage the enemy has that everyone actually seems to be aware of, and the destructive potential of, but nobody has done before because ?????" is less technical minutiae and more colossal plot gaffe Never mind an empty cruiser, just do a Big LoGH and strap hyperspace drives on a bunch of asteroids, then send them into the flagship/death star/starkiller base/whatever. Ultimately it was a movie about characters rather than space battles, so I didn't personally mind it but does raise the question of "wait why wasn't this tech used before".
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Jan 12, 2018 03:44
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For Terraism to be interesting, a whole religion would have to be invented with an empathetic mindset. Like the author would have to understand and on some level be able to sympathize with the people who believed this stuff. That is not easy, and definitely not this author's strong suit. He tends to just copy and paste history into new an interesting scenarios. Which is great, but religion can be so utterly impenetrable and bizarre that it's hard to just copy-paste. They tend not to make intuitive sense and the only reason they don't seem utterly bizarre is because we grew up in a world where they exist the way they do. For what it's worth, the basic premise of a reactionary cult worshiping the mother planet was a pretty decent start, all things considered. The author just obviously had no reference point to go from there and fell back on cartoon villains to fill in the gaps. It clearly didn't work.
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Jan 12, 2018 08:16
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We live in a world with an honest to god death cult right now. Look up the assembly in Florida where they were proclaiming the end times were coming and the crowd of fundamentalist Christians began cheering, hard-right republicans are more cartoonishly evil than most cartoon characters. Hell some are worse than loving captain planet villains.
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Jan 12, 2018 08:52
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The problem is that Terraism is not like real life fundamentalist movements, but instead an Illuminati conspiracy with sinister black robes.
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I'll give credit on this front: how do you humanize such a lovely and reactionary movement as ISIS to an audience? Not all terrorists are hyper evil death cults, but, you know, some kind of are. There is a good bit of precedent for this all over the world, they aren't representative of an entire people of course but I don't think the show tries to paint that. "Terrorism cannot drive history" is a fine enough point to be making, yes you could go out of your way to write in an arch showing how situations in both regions radicalize people to reactionary tendencies but it's really loving hard to drive home an empathetic plot about how some well paid engineer decides its time to join a death cult and shoot up a night club / fly a plane into a building full of people. It's not impossible, but you would need a lot of time and care to set a plot like that up and that is clearly not the thrust of the show. You could point to ISIS in real life and just say "well that's just not a very realistic portrayal of the situation on the ground" and you'd be flatly wrong. Terrorists are made up of normal people and normal people sometimes attach to pretty loving horrific things for often arbitrary and hard to understand reasons. Said boots on the ground being used to as proxies to further the political ends of people who have very thin cultural connection and or empathy with them is also not without precedent and if anything has tons of support in history. gently caress, just look at the relationship of saudi princes funneling money into radical islamic factions one day and partying on a yacht with booze, hookers and blow the next. Complete cultural disconnect. The rubinsky / terraists connection is a pretty weak point for me in the show too but I cannot in good conscious call it remotely unrealistic. The presentation in the show of terraists might fall a bit flat tonally but taken seriously nothing is actually out of place. Ojjeorago posted:They’re magnets. Anyone who doesn’t understand that scene is using juggalo science. GoLambo fucked around with this message at 10:08 on Jan 12, 2018 |
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Jan 12, 2018 09:57
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TV always had a weird problem where if things get too real, they feel unrealistic. My favorite scene is still that cabinet meeting about justifying war for votes.
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https://twitter.com/SoCosTX/status/968210288133771265 I thought this was neat.
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Feb 26, 2018 21:00
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It seems that the next book (Volume 6: Flight) is to be released in April.
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Feb 26, 2018 21:12
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https://twitter.com/gineidenanime/status/969380412052025344 Your new Julian Minci, everyone. It's worse than I ever thought possible. There's 5 or 6 new designs in that Twitter account, they're all astounding but what even is this Cazellnu.
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My hopes for this adaptation are pretty much negative at this point Maybe the direction will save it?
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Mar 2, 2018 04:08
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Looks like character portrait from a terrible dating sim.
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Mar 2, 2018 04:12
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There’s no way that Reuental’s haircut is regulation
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Flavor Text posted:https://twitter.com/gineidenanime/status/969380412052025344 Gah. Man I only was down on Yang lookin so young when that trailer came out, this is getting bad.
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