Tars Tarkas posted:But now we can have a Snow Dogs/Show Dogs/Showgirls triple feature! Snow dogs/Show Dogs/ Straw dogs
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Al Borland Corp. posted:I don't think Christopher Plummer should be turned into as punchline for sexual abuse I mean at the very least we should get his consent first.
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Jan 12, 2018 07:07
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Lobok posted:So I guess these CG movies are Not My Paddington. Paddington twisting the lid off a jar of marmalade like Superman snapping Zod's neck
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Jan 12, 2018 08:05
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James Franco is currently having A LOT of sexual abuse/predatory behavior charges heaved his way, did he have anything big coming out this year?
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Jan 12, 2018 08:50
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:James Franco is currently having A LOT of sexual abuse/predatory behavior charges heaved his way, did he have anything big coming out this year? He just won a Golden Globe for playing Tommy Wiseau.
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Jan 12, 2018 08:54
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Gonz posted:He just won a Golden Globe for playing Tommy Wiseau. Such an absurd sentence.
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Jan 12, 2018 09:16
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Wheat Loaf posted:
How'd your predictions about The Last Jedi's box office turn out?
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Jan 12, 2018 11:36
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Honestly it's counter productive to wish huge, tent pole films to make losses because the studios usually use the profits out of those movies to allocate funds to allow for the artsy, passion projects to happen. But then again, that also led to the movie of 2017 The Book of Henry, so.
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Jan 12, 2018 11:43
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Wandle Cax posted:How'd your predictions about The Last Jedi's box office turn out? Admittedly not 100% correctly, but I think it still might not be number one for 2017. However, if I am completely wrong, I will have to retire from my foray into box office predictions.
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Jan 12, 2018 12:07
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Wheat Loaf posted:Admittedly not 100% correctly, but I think it still might not be number one for 2017. However, if I am completely wrong, I will have to retire from my foray into box office predictions. There is absolutely zero chance it won't take the #1 spot for 2017
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Jan 12, 2018 12:30
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The top ten of most tickets sold in the Netherlands for 2017 had TLJ at the #7 spot, with none of the other movies having been released in the last months of the year. Edit: Might as well include the list. 1. Despicable Me 3 (1.338.156) 2. Pirates of the Caribbean: Salazar's Revenge (1.017.987) [European title] 3. Beauty and the Beast (850.372) 4. Fast & Furious 8 (848.174) 5. The Boss Baby (801.190) 6. Dunkirk (755.610) 7. Star Wars: The Last Jedi (696.826) 8. Fifty Shades Darker (685.766) 9. Sing (672.849) 10. IT (580.667) Really surprised by just how many people went to see PotC, even though I was part of the problem.
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Jan 12, 2018 12:51
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:There is absolutely zero chance it won't take the #1 spot for 2017 Frankly, I have no idea why I decided to nail my colours to this particular mast in the first place. 
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Jan 12, 2018 14:31
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Wheat Loaf posted:Frankly, I have no idea why I decided to nail my colours to this particular mast in the first place. It's not too late to change your mind before it becomes official!! Alternatively, you could dig in even further and  me over it 
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Jan 12, 2018 14:45
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:It's not too late to change your mind before it becomes official!! I think it's because of how big the numbers are. When you put it in terms of "$1.2 billion" then I instantly see the 1.2 and gloss over the billion; that's a huge amount of money but "1.2 billion" doesn't feel as big to me as if you said "1200 million". Therefore, when I look at the numbers and see that it needs about $40 million or so to finish up as number one for 2017, I instantly see the 40 and think, "There's no way there's 40 million left in the world for this movie to earn." I probably got a bit carried away with the whole "TLJ is a flop" narrative a bit too easily (I got a lot of my commentary from the Forbes website, where they have a movie writer who liked TLJ and spins all the figures positively, and another movie writer who disliked TLJ and spins the exact same numbers negatively), when I knew rationally that it was never going to be as big as Force Awakens because that movie over-performed its expectations. I think box office numbers like this are very interesting because I think they're the best barometer of what people are going to see and what's really popular, but as I've evidently demonstrated, I'm not much good with numbers, so I go with what the most convincing expert has to say and I'm probably too quick to believe them. Wheat Loaf fucked around with this message at 15:01 on Jan 12, 2018 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:I think it's because of how big the numbers are. When you put it in terms of "$1.2 billion" then I instantly see the 1.2 and gloss over the billion; that's a huge amount of money but "1.2 billion" doesn't feel as big to me as if you said "1200 million". Therefore, when I look at the numbers and see that it needs about $40 million or so to finish up as number one for 2017, I instantly see the 40 and think, "There's no way there's 40 million left in the world for this movie to earn." Boxofficemojo.com has it $33,800,000 short of the #1 place right now and yeah, that sounds like a huge amount of money (especially considering that there's a ton of films that never made $34m in their entire screen run) but that's only 2.75% of the money that TLJ has already made and it hasn't even been out for a full month yet. $34m is a tiny tiny pittance in this context. The numbers they're throwing around are ridiculous. Also don't forget that the box office receipts will only be a fraction of the money the studio makes on this whole endeavour, their other revenue streams will be much much bigger than a paltry $1.2B.
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Jan 12, 2018 15:07
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I'm surprised the last Transformers barely made back its budget. I forgot there was even a new one coming out. It seems like those movies might finally be ready to die.
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Jan 12, 2018 15:09
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I believe it's Bumblebee: A Transformers Story next.
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Jan 12, 2018 15:15
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Inescapable Duck posted:I'm surprised the last Transformers barely made back its budget. I forgot there was even a new one coming out. It seems like those movies might finally be ready to die. It made over $600 million worldwide which must be hugely disappointing for them because the previous two films in the franchise made over a billion each. It was actually the lowest performing movie out of the entire series. It wasn't just a small dip either, it was a significant drop from their usual performance:  https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/...The-Last-Knight
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Jan 12, 2018 15:35
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:It made over $600 million worldwide which must be hugely disappointing for them because the previous two films in the franchise made over a billion each. Not just that; Age of Extinction was the only movie in 2014 to gross over a billion dollars and became the number one movie of the year.
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Jan 12, 2018 15:47
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da gently caress?quote:Do you see a salary ceiling for these movie stars flocking to TV? https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/paramount-tv-head-alienist-george-clooneys-catch-22-future-13-reasons-why-1073192 from the interview of Paramount's TV division Uh where did this come from
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Jan 12, 2018 18:06
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who CARES about Box office numbers my god
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Shageletic posted:da gently caress? That's just an out-of-nowhere announcement. I'm guessing cyberpunk shows are going to be a thing now, first Altered Carbon on Netflix, now Snow Crash. It's a shame the Neuromancer rights are tied up, because a Sprawl Trilogy show that incorporates that plus Count Zero, Mona Lisa Overdrive, and Johnny Mnemonic would be killer, even if it turns out to be the Molly Millions show.
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bows1 posted:who CARES about Box office numbers my god Hey, at least I talk about other stuff as well. 100% of your posts in this thread have been about box office numbers. Edit: I just checked your posting history and apart from a handful of random posts in CD GenChat, 100% of your posts in CD threads for the entire year have been about box office numbers.
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Jan 12, 2018 18:23
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Hey, at least I talk about other stuff as well. 100% of your posts in this thread have been about box office numbers. gently caress I suppose thats true
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Jan 12, 2018 18:30
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bows1 posted:gently caress I suppose thats true Whoa it just dropped to 50% 
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Jan 12, 2018 18:36
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Box office numbers don't come up as often in other threads, but this is a thread about how films of dubious quality get greenlit, and obviously box office numbers are a big part of that.
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Jan 12, 2018 18:39
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I use box office numbers in the OP as that's what studios care about and things like RottenTomatoes scores seem like a bad way to judge a movie's success or failure as many films don't give a crap about their critic scores while other films with great critic numbers do terrible at the box office and no one sees them, which seems like a bigger failure because what is the point of art if it is never seen by anyone?
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Jan 12, 2018 18:41
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Yeah the box office numbers are generally a good indicator of a movie's popularity so they're useful in that respect. It's also satisfying to watch a movie you like do really well or a movie/studio/director you dislike go down in flames. 
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Jan 12, 2018 18:48
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I don't generally care about box office numbers; I just think they're interesting.  I used to be very interested in following music charts even though a lot of my favourite music never got anywhere near them. I just thought it was interesting in a "what are people listening to" way and, as a corollary to that, "why did this flop and what are the implications of that?"I'll happily stop talking about it if people want me to.
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Jan 12, 2018 18:54
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The funniest part is that we were finished talking about it but then bows1 complained and sparked off a whole other discussion about it.
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Jan 12, 2018 18:59
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I propose we change the word Box Office to "The pay windah." like Dusty Rhodes would say.
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Jan 12, 2018 19:03
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James Mangold's Patty Hearst biopic is cancelled by Fox after Hearst said that the book it would have been based on romanticized her torture and rape. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/fox-cancels-james-mangolds-patty-hearst-biopic-1074187
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Yeah the box office numbers are generally a good indicator of a movie's popularity so they're useful in that respect. That there's danger close to MisterBibs style talk.
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Jan 13, 2018 02:30
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I know I’m just starting it again but I was basically talking about the obsession with The Last Jedi and it’s box office when it’s obviously not strange why it got green lighted
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Jan 13, 2018 05:46
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Even if I thought Solo was going to be a great movie I'm sure it would lose to Infinity War at the box office. It's just a Star Wars "story", and it's going up against the Marvel flagship franchise with 10 years of momentum. I'm sure Black Panther is going to have some sort of hook specifically to get people excited and put their butts in the theater.
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Krankenstyle posted:That there's danger close to MisterBibs style talk. Ha, I was going to add something like "... but of course the box office results are no reflection of the actual quality of the movie" to that post but I thought to myself "Eh, that obviously goes without saying" and left it out. I forgot the MisterBibs Factor. bows1 posted:I know I’m just starting it again but I was basically talking about the obsession with The Last Jedi and it’s box office when it’s obviously not strange why it got green lighted Certain people have a vested interest in finding evidence that the recent Star Wars movies are financially disappointing or not as popular as the classic Star Wars as some sort of evidence that Disney screwed up the franchise, maybe that's what was going on?
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Gatts posted:I propose we change the word Box Office to "The pay windah." like Dusty Rhodes would say. This. If you will
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joylessdivision posted:This. If you will Star Wars has fallen on HAAAAAAAAARD TIIIIIIIIIIIMES, DADDEH!
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:It's also satisfying to watch a movie you like do really well or a movie/studio/director you dislike go down in flames.
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Casimir Radon posted:Even if I thought Solo was going to be a great movie I'm sure it would lose to Infinity War at the box office. It's just a Star Wars "story", and it's going up against the Marvel flagship franchise with 10 years of momentum. I'm sure Black Panther is going to have some sort of hook specifically to get people excited and put their butts in the theater. Black Panther is gonna do well, but Avengers is going to smoke everything. And Black Panther doing well is only going to help Avengers.
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