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Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

The Leck posted:

i don't remember who posted them originally, but here they are, and they're great:

👍👍👍

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freeasinbeer
Mar 26, 2015

by Fluffdaddy
cause I like sharing salaries:

I make 130k with a 12.5% max bonus(although it’s gonna be like 8% this year because larger Corp didn’t do well, and I’ve only been here 6 months so it’ll be prorated.)

I live in Baltimore so my CoL is _very_ low.

buttchugging adderall
May 7, 2007

COME GET SOME
I got a promotion and raise about a week or so ago.

plus side: more figgies

bad side: now I gotta help interview a lot more.

I don’t mind interviewing that much so it’s not a bad trade off.

The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?
I got a big bump in total comp leaving Apple because they are cheapskates, particularly in the annual raise department.

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


^SHTPSTS

Gary’s Answer
I took a slight pay cut in terms of COL moving to Apple with the assumption that having that on my resume will make me way more attractive for big figgy positions in a few years.

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Anyone want to give a Boston network engineer some good figgies

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Shinku ABOOKEN posted:

i am hoping to jump from $140k after tax to $230k after tax. wish me luck.

Emacs Headroom posted:

good luck.

post your location / job title -- also how much is base vs. bonus vs stock? I'm at 260 base + 128k rsus in SF (just started new job)

wow some p. deece 6.5 figgies itt

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

cis autodrag posted:

I took a slight pay cut in terms of COL moving to Apple with the assumption that having that on my resume will make me way more attractive for big figgy positions in a few years.

that's normal

moving to a high-CoL area never increases wages as much as the CoL

Emacs Headroom
Aug 2, 2003

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

that's normal

moving to a high-CoL area never increases wages as much as the CoL

that wasn't true for me at least going from nyc -> sf

the sweet spot market is probably seattle. worst comp / CoL might be London

In the US, places like Chicago, Austin, and Boston have medium / lower comp but average CoL. places like Raleigh have lower comp but make up for it in very low CoL. NYC has medium-high CoL (but is the center of the universe, and the only functional american city with things like universal pre-K and a real transit system), and medium-high comp unless you're in finance.

SF has a high CoL and does not quality as a real functioning city, but the comp is the highest, and not just at FAANG companies

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
boston and chicago have very high cost of living. raleigh is close to the national average

i think your sense of the costs may be skewed by having a ton of money and being a computer toucher in big cities

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
moving from the midwest to new york city, my pay went up by 50%, but my cost of living more than doubled due to hosting costs

Emacs Headroom
Aug 2, 2003
that might be true.

there are other two advantages to being in big markets that I can think of:

1) if you can keep your costs of living the same as a proportion of your income, all things being equal it's better to be in a high comp / high CoL situation because while you're saving the same proportionately, you're saving more in total $$$

2) having a highly competitive market means you can easily move between jobs and aren't stuck in a trainwreck. I know a few people in philly who are tearing their hair out working for Comcast, but since it's more or less the only game in town, they're stuck

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
yep #2 happened to me

i enjoyed living in the midwest but i was working at the only game in town and eventually my career kinda topped out

buttchugging adderall
May 7, 2007

COME GET SOME
yeah one of the things I will give RTP credit for is having a ton of places to work for. makes recruitment a loving pain though.

PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:


jony neuemonic posted:

yeah i don't know why this is controversial. blasting someone on glassdoor probably isn't going to hurt you, but it definitely isn't going to help you so why bother?

because labor has to stick together and glassdoor is a god send in our corporate hellworld

PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:


Notorious b.s.d. posted:

wow some p. deece 6.5 figgies itt

yeah, really

although living in the paris of appalachia helps thumb my col / pay ratio a bit

ADINSX
Sep 9, 2003

Wanna run with my crew huh? Rule cyberspace and crunch numbers like I do?

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

wow some p. deece 6.5 figgies itt

no joke, I have fig envy; I need to up my fig game soon, maybe this year.

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine
Even with overtime I'm only halfway to six-figgie fucktard-hood. :(

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
i haven't gotten a real raise since i started my current job -- just 1-2% joke raises.

i like my employer but not enough to be underpaid. it is a sad conundrum.

qhat
Jul 6, 2015


Schadenboner posted:

Even with overtime I'm only halfway to six-figgie fucktard-hood. :(

A reliable source told me the other day that my boss is inches away from quitting and really I'm the only person in the team capable of replacing them, so I may be counting the figs from one to six fairly soon.

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


^SHTPSTS

Gary’s Answer

qhat posted:

A reliable source told me the other day that my boss is inches away from quitting and really I'm the only person in the team capable of replacing them, so I may be counting the figs from one to six fairly soon.

Incoming hostile work environment lawsuit from qhats new reports

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
it's the last .5 that make your figgies truly deece

qhat
Jul 6, 2015


cis autodrag posted:

Incoming hostile work environment lawsuit from qhats new reports

I don't envisage you as a red faced rager IRL because I read a post of yours on the internet, so a little reciprocity would be nice.

Emacs Headroom
Aug 2, 2003

ADINSX posted:

no joke, I have fig envy; I need to up my fig game soon, maybe this year.

A lot of it is really just bay area money. A friend of mine just did a pretty thorough search and got a spread of offers from 1.25M over 4 years to 2M over 4 years (some had significany amounys in ISO form which depends on liquidity events and performance though)

I didn't talk to Netflix but my understanding is that they're aggressive also with offers, but comp entirely with base, so like a $400k salary and that's it.

Emacs Headroom fucked around with this message at 02:47 on Jan 16, 2018

qhat
Jul 6, 2015


Emacs Headroom posted:

$400k salary and that's it.

Hard cash salary owns a lot IMO.

Emacs Headroom
Aug 2, 2003

qhat posted:

Hard cash salary IMO owns much more.

I agree, but a lot of places seem to cap at like 170 and go hard on stock

Trimson Grondag 3
Jul 1, 2007

Clapping Larry
just curious, do they cap like that for managers/directors etc or just for high paid individuals?

FamDav
Mar 29, 2008

Trimson Grondag 3 posted:

just curious, do they cap like that for managers/directors etc or just for high paid individuals?

Amazon caps everyone, but you can’t even hit the cap until you’re senior/principal because of the salary/rsu ratio.

looking to buy this 900k place in Capitol Hill and knowing I still don’t have to touch like 60% of my income is p needs suiting though

EDIT: first against the wall, etc.

FamDav fucked around with this message at 04:11 on Jan 16, 2018

ADINSX
Sep 9, 2003

Wanna run with my crew huh? Rule cyberspace and crunch numbers like I do?

Emacs Headroom posted:

A lot of it is really just bay area money. A friend of mine just did a pretty thorough search and got a spread of offers from 1.25M over 4 years to 2M over 4 years (some had significany amounys in ISO form which depends on liquidity events and performance though)

I didn't talk to Netflix but my understanding is that they're aggressive also with offers, but comp entirely with base, so like a $400k salary and that's it.

I live in Seattle though. I think I could probably make a dece 6.5 if I shopped around, but I like the people I work with and I'm the tech lead of a pretty important team doing some cool green field cloud stuff. If it wasn't for those two things I'd be hitting the books for interviews

Emacs Headroom
Aug 2, 2003

FamDav posted:

first against the wall, etc.

i'm pretty far left politically (my goal would be "fully automated luxury space communism"), but since a lot of us are in uber capitalist america where the game is "try not to retire at 75 in debt eating catfood with your paltry social security benefits lol", you kinda have to shove money into a sack and be a little unapologetic about it i think.

esp. if you've (like me) spent most of your 20s in school not accruing any kind of retirement savings. and if you (like me) got one or more kids.

edit: its probably my socialist streak that compells me to tell people to post on glass door, and be radically transparent about salaries. everyone lets get more money from the VCs

Emacs Headroom fucked around with this message at 06:41 on Jan 16, 2018

Progressive JPEG
Feb 19, 2003

Emacs Headroom posted:

I didn't talk to Netflix but my understanding is that they're aggressive also with offers, but comp entirely with base, so like a $400k salary and that's it.

I heard from someone who'd started there in 2016 that they let you dial in how much base vs equity you want

But that said their P/E ratio is over 200 at the moment so I wouldn't personally pick equity lol

qhat
Jul 6, 2015


imo pick cash every time and put it into a security you actually do want

EnergizerFellow
Oct 11, 2005

More drunk than a barrel of monkeys

Progressive JPEG posted:

But that said their P/E ratio is over 200 at the moment so I wouldn't personally pick equity lol

Overall market is looking at P/E resembling the late 90s, things getting frothy, and a flattening yield curve. Things are going to get really interesting real soon.

As for Netflix specifically, even with a historically optimistic P/E of 20, there's just no way Netflix can grow top-line 10x, even in theory. The crash will be fun and hard.

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

cis autodrag posted:

Incoming hostile work environment lawsuit from qhats new reports

lol

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

qhat posted:

imo pick cash every time and put it into a Vanguard targeted retirement fund

FTFY. Do not invest in individual equities, everyone at the table knows more than you do.

Emacs Headroom
Aug 2, 2003

Schadenboner posted:

FTFY. Do not invest in individual equities, everyone at the table knows more than you do.

nobody knows anything and the S&P 500 will outperform most funds.

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

Emacs Headroom posted:

nobody knows anything and the S&P 500 will outperform most funds.

An index fund is also acceptable.

PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:


Emacs Headroom posted:

edit: its probably my socialist streak that compells me to tell people to post on glass door, and be radically transparent about salaries. everyone lets get more money from the VCs

my company encourages everyone to post to glassdoor and surprise our numbers are not only fairly accurate but we generally aren't dicked around on salary either

crazy how the ends up working :thunk:

qhat
Jul 6, 2015


Schadenboner posted:

FTFY. Do not invest in individual equities, everyone at the table knows more than you do.

Cheers.

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Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
i wouldn't mind that sweet, sweet $400k total comp

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