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raditts posted:Is that the same one he winds up accidentally killing later because his aim with a gun is so terrible? Man Skyfall was a loving turd of a movie. Yup. After Casino Royale fixed how Bond interacts with and acts towards women, they threw it all down the shitter in Skyfall. It's not my only issue with the film, but it's a big one.
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lelandjs posted:Yup. After Casino Royale fixed how Bond interacts with and acts towards women, they threw it all down the shitter in Skyfall. It's not my only issue with the film, but it's a big one. Well it's biggest problem remains that it's just not a very good movie
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Skyfall could very possibly be the most overrated film of the decade
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Jan 16, 2018 17:30
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Berenice Marhloe gives ten times the performance that Skyfall deserves. She's pretty great, honestly.
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Josh Lyman posted:Why would you even drink red wine on a first date? It stains your teeth and lips smdh I like red wine
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lelandjs posted:Yup. After Casino Royale fixed how Bond interacts with and acts towards women, they threw it all down the shitter in Skyfall. It's not my only issue with the film, but it's a big one. It's not just Bond. Off the top of my head, in Skyfall: - In the beginning, Moneypenny misses the shot, hits Bond. M made the call when it was likely a pretty awful decision. At the end, Moneypenny goes from being a field agent to a man's secretary. - Severine--in addition to the rather horrible shower invasion--appears to be strong and in control, but is actually being controlled, is summarily executed and all that happens is Bond makes a rather tasteless one-liner. - M is shown to make decisions out of maternal feelings; she is not seen as a leader, but rather as a mother figure to both the protagonist and antagonist, who in turn can't make decisions disconnected from her gender. - At the inquiry regarding MI6, the head of the inquiry is a woman and she goes on a tirade at M, and she gets put in her place by a man, essentially being told "shut up." - M can't handle a gun, is unable to defend herself, and dies. Not long after, she's replaced by a man. That whole script is terrible.
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Man I'm like 80% sure I saw that movie but I don't remember anything about it. The Daniel Craig Bond* movies are a real dumpster fire. * Not because of Daniel Craig's acting or anything
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When viewed though a modern lense, very few Bond movies aren't doing something problematic.
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I remember really liking Casino Royale when it came out but I tried to watch it last year and it doesn’t hold up very well at all 
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I think the last one I saw was Quantum of Solace, and I can't even remember poo poo about that one
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I don't know, maybe Skyfall was deeply misogynistic and I didn't catch it, but I enjoyed the movie a lot.
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well I mean, I don't know how you missed it, it's pretty overt and the entire second half of the movie is basically "you know, this whole modern bond thing is okay but what if we brought back all the cheesiness and misogyny of the Connery era"Timby posted:It's not just Bond. Off the top of my head, in Skyfall: This is why my personal nickname for Skyfall is "Bond: Other M" the thematic mommy issues are so loving weird raditts fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Jan 16, 2018 |
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Jan 16, 2018 18:00
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Also I've been watching random episodes of Black Mirror. San Junipero is boring as poo poo and also really poorly directed and written. I guess I don't understand.
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I wouldn't object if whoever follows Craig gets to go the Roger Moore route and do a more humorous take, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Vegetable posted:Also I've been watching random episodes of Black Mirror. San Junipero is boring as poo poo and also really poorly directed and written. I guess I don't understand. San Junipero's popularity IMO stems from a combination of not being as poo poo as the rest of that season and trading on the '80s / '90s nostalgia that most of its viewers undoubtedly have.
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Vegetable posted:Also I've been watching random episodes of Black Mirror. San Junipero is boring as poo poo and also really poorly directed and written. I guess I don't understand. San Junipero works for people like my mom, who doesn't like TV that's not a multi-camera sitcom or a procedural. It's the Hallmark Hall of Fame episode of Black Mirror
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Vegetable posted:I don't know, maybe Skyfall was deeply misogynistic and I didn't catch it, but I enjoyed the movie a lot. I mean that’s not WHY it’s a bad movie, it’s a bad movie anyway that just happens to have weird issues with misogyny
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I'm trying to remember what I think is a series... but may be a movie... or a videogame? It's sci fi, with ships that jump, and said jumps are controlled by... a woman? who's in a pod a la Minority report; I remember her waking up suddenly and yelling "Jump!" and the ship jumping, but that's kind of all I have. Did I just mix up a bunch of stuff and hallucinate it?
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raditts posted:TIL that actually listening to someone you're hooking up with when they say no or push you away rather than fish-hooking their mouth and jamming your dick into their face makes you a "mind reader"
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Edmond Dantes posted:I'm trying to remember what I think is a series... but may be a movie... or a videogame? Sounds like the parody-take on Homeworld.
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Edmond Dantes posted:I'm trying to remember what I think is a series... but may be a movie... or a videogame? That's Battlestar Galactica https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVk1DjMtLWs
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Edmond Dantes posted:I'm trying to remember what I think is a series... but may be a movie... or a videogame? That's a cylon basestar in Battlestar Galactica.
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Hakkesshu posted:That's Battlestar Galactica AngryBooch posted:That's a cylon basestar in Battlestar Galactica. AHA! I thought it was Galactica, but completely forgot how Basestars jumped. Thanks a lot!
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Vegetable posted:I don't know, maybe Skyfall was deeply misogynistic and I didn't catch it, but I enjoyed the movie a lot. Sandwiched between Quantum of Solace and Spectre it's pretty great, but next to Casino Royale it's less impressive. I still don't think it's not good or anything.
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'50s: I guess I'll go with I love Lucy too. '60s: The Twilight Zone. '70s: All In The Family '80s: Cheers '90s: Friends '00s: Mad Men '10s: Fringe (gently caress you, it's the best) Croatoan fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Jan 16, 2018 |
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The apostrophe goes before the decade, it substitutes for the 19. So it’s ‘60s, ‘70s, ‘80s, etc.
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If you don't think The Simpsons was the best show of the 90s just I don't even know what to say to you.
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Anyone else enjoy Gogglebox? I thought the premise was the dumbest poo poo ever but I thoroughly enjoy it.
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IRQ posted:If you don't think The Simpsons was the best show of the 90s just I don't even know what to say to you. Early 90's? Yeah, sure. Mid-to-late? Nah. When FXX put up EVERY. SIMPSONS. EVER. on their app the wife and I went through it from the start and began to lose interest in it right around '96 or so. If it had maintained the quality, maybe I would say it was the greatest show of the 90's overall. I still watched up until about '08, for some reason. Even the last few seasons of Seinfeld were pretty drat good TV, even if they weren't as great as the previous seasons. asecondduck fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Jan 16, 2018 |
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Croatoan posted:Anyone else enjoy Gogglebox? I thought the premise was the dumbest poo poo ever but I thoroughly enjoy it. Googglebox is when I decided that broadcast TV isn't for me anymore.
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Complete series of The Sopranos blu ray is $50 https://www.amazon.com/The-Sopranos-The-Complete-Series-Blu-ray/dp/B00L5QX1FO
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lelandjs posted:Even the last few seasons of Seinfeld were pretty drat good TV, even if they weren't as great as the previous seasons. Late Seinfeld is like Season 7 of Homicide: Life on the Street: Not as good as the seasons that came before it, but still better than just about anything else on television at the time.
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lelandjs posted:Early 90's? Yeah, sure. Mid-to-late? Nah. Even late 90s had some iconic episodes, but the show itself is so important that it in many ways defines the decade.
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IRQ posted:Even late 90s had some iconic episodes, but the show itself is so important that it in many ways defines the decade. I'm not really arguing with you because tastes are hella subjective (and I know you aren't a huge fan of Seinfeld, which is fine). But you did make me think that Seinfeld, with its focus on perceived microagressions and petty causes and issues, ended up predicting the '10s pretty well. asecondduck fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Jan 16, 2018 |
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lelandjs posted:I'm not really arguing with you because tastes are hella subjective (and I know you aren't a huge fan of Seinfeld, which is fine). I actually loved Seinfeld, I just don't think it held up.
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I've never seen an episode of Seinfeld, but I was taken to his standup which I thought sucked. My new girlfriend is also taking me to see him so hopefully he's gotten better in the 5 years since the last time.
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IRQ posted:Man I'm like 80% sure I saw that movie but I don't remember anything about it. I haven't seen the Daniel Craig movies but I think Goldeneye and From Russia With Love are like the only two Bond films I've seen that were anywhere near as good or entertaining as the reputation of the character. I guess Live and Let Die was good too. There are a lot of loving lovely Bond films.
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GreenNight posted:I've never seen an episode of Seinfeld, but I was taken to his standup which I thought sucked. His standup is medicore-to-bad and easily the worst part of the first few seasons of the show. Thankfully, they realized that pretty early on. Lurdiak posted:I haven't seen the Daniel Craig movies but I think Goldeneye and From Russia With Love are like the only two Bond films I've seen that were anywhere near as good or entertaining as the reputation of the character. I guess Live and Let Die was good too. You're not wrong. I would say that there are couple other good ones (On Her Majesty's Secret Service, Licence To Kill) but there's really only one or two truly good Bond films per Bond. Maybe that's the secret, they should just cast a new Bond for every film and then they'll all be good! 
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Looten Plunder posted:Oh look. Someone thought about this rationally gently caress off.
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GreenNight posted:I've never seen an episode of Seinfeld, but I was taken to his standup which I thought sucked. His standup is absolutely terrible, and he's an obnoxious human being in general (when he was staying at the hotel I worked at a few years ago, he treated the wait staff at the restaurant and the front desk / bell staff like absolute poo poo). I still think it's creepy that he and Matt Lauer look like long-lost twins now.
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