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Thermopyle posted:Unless you're running a high traffic database server you will never notice the difference. im guessing i shouldnt Worf fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Jan 16, 2018 |
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Jan 16, 2018 18:32
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Thermopyle posted:Unless you're running a high traffic database server you will never notice the difference. Like I said something is really hosed up on the ‘fixed’ firmware on my HP - it’s easily noticeable using it side by side with a non-updated model. Personally I’d wait a while before upgrading any Haswell or Broadwell systems (assuming firmware is even available, I doubt it will be on an older ASUS).
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Jan 16, 2018 18:52
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dissss posted:Urgh updated the firmware on my work laptop (an HP 820 G2 so Broadwell generation) and performance has completely gone to poo poo. I'm the IT guy for an entire fleet of Elitebook G2s and haven't seen anything yet. Does it have an SSD?
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Jan 16, 2018 19:18
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Yeah came with some Liteon SSD which still appears to be working fine. We have loads of them spare so I think I'll upgrade another couple and see how they go.
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Jan 16, 2018 19:31
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Statutory Ape posted:im guessing i shouldnt I'm not sure why you wouldnt, unless it's a database server. And even then, the performance hit is probably worth taking unless it's not connected to the internet.
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Jan 16, 2018 19:40
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:I'm not sure why you wouldnt, unless it's a database server. And even then, the performance hit is probably worth taking unless it's not connected to the internet. https://www.fin24.com/Tech/News/new-spectre-and-meltdown-patches-cause-reboot-issues-20180115 unless im misreading it ill be patching my way into crash city! (potentially)
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Statutory Ape posted:https://www.fin24.com/Tech/News/new-spectre-and-meltdown-patches-cause-reboot-issues-20180115 Some guy I sold a Haswell gaming PC to, which has been fine for two years, called me up yesterday saying it crashed a dozen times for no reason in the last couple days... hmmmmm
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Zero VGS posted:Some guy I sold a Haswell gaming PC to, which has been fine for two years, called me up yesterday saying it crashed a dozen times for no reason in the last couple days... hmmmmm Yeah they're saying that the haswell patch will need a re-patch to unfuck the original patch rip. now i just need to decide what i want to replace that mobo/proc with. ryzen 1200 or maybe a pentium 4560...hmhmhmhmhmmhmhhmhmh but i guess thats a different thread somewhere. idk, i dont really post in this sub forum outside of this and the monitor thread 
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Jan 16, 2018 23:01
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Is this eventually gonna gently caress over sandy bridge? Now I'm gonna be paranoid about selling this old laptop that it's gonna get an intel fuckup and I'll get blamed for it.
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Jan 17, 2018 00:04
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I've been seeing stuff about the new 8th gen Kaby Lake processors throttling at not-that-high temps, is that actually a thing? Should I be looking at laptops with a 7th gen processor instead?
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Jan 17, 2018 00:14
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Pablo Gigante posted:I've been seeing stuff about the new 8th gen Kaby Lake processors throttling at not-that-high temps, is that actually a thing? Should I be looking at laptops with a 7th gen processor instead? As someone who has spent several weeks obsessively shopping for laptops, there hasn't been a good laptop made since 2015, and a 2015 laptop is getting long in the tooth. Welcome to laptop hell.
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Jan 17, 2018 00:42
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shovelbum posted:As someone who has spent several weeks obsessively shopping for laptops, there hasn't been a good laptop made since 2015, and a 2015 laptop is getting long in the tooth. Welcome to laptop hell. gently caress. I’m still rocking a 2013 MBP Retina 13” but I want a bigger screen and uh, not Mac anymore
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Pablo Gigante posted:I've been seeing stuff about the new 8th gen Kaby Lake processors throttling at not-that-high temps, is that actually a thing? Should I be looking at laptops with a 7th gen processor instead? i played video games on my 8th gen i7 8550u for like 8 hrs straight its in an xps 13 that has basically no cooling in it
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Jan 17, 2018 01:20
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Hello friends, I need some advice: I am buying a new laptop and want to get one with some pretty decent gaming power. Yes, I know I should buy a desktop and yes I already have one. I have a job and commute and lifestyle that does not fit a desktop into the picture well, but I like gaming when I can on the train or from hookah or whatever. I don't need super ultra top tier headshot graphics. I play most games at like normal quality and don't need vr or fancy stuff. I do play games like Path of Exile which chews up and spits out onboard graphics of my current older laptop. Budget probably around $2k unless there is a really good reason to go higher. Battery life and power are probably the two most important things for me; I'm a big dude so the weight of the laptop doesn't really matter.
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Jan 17, 2018 02:02
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I went for the Yoga 720 13.3" with an i5 8250u and 8GB, now on to obsessively refreshing the order status page for the next few days.
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Jan 17, 2018 03:02
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Omniblivion posted:I don't need super ultra top tier headshot graphics. I play most games at like normal quality and don't need vr or fancy stuff. I do play games like Path of Exile which chews up and spits out onboard graphics of my current older laptop. Battery life and gaming power don't really exist in the same machine. That said, the xps 15 has a whopping 97wh battery and a gtx 1050 in it, which is a little anemic if you're trying to play Battlefield 1 on Ultra or something, but should do fine with low/medium settings at 1080p for most games. It'll definitely handle Path of Exile just fine.
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Jan 17, 2018 03:10
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:Battery life and gaming power don't really exist in the same machine. That said, the xps 15 has a whopping 97wh battery and a gtx 1050 in it, which is a little anemic if you're trying to play Battlefield 1 on Ultra or something, but should do fine with low/medium settings at 1080p for most games. It'll definitely handle Path of Exile just fine. There is also the Aero 15 which has a 94whr battery and a GTX 1060 which will be a mix of Ultra and High on BF1 @ 1080p. A little less svelte than the XPS15, however, with much less of that premium-wow factor.
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Shrimp or Shrimps posted:There is also the Aero 15 which has a 94whr battery and a GTX 1060 which will be a mix of Ultra and High on BF1 @ 1080p. I wasn't that impressed with the aero 15, the build is a little suspect and the touchpad is janky as gently caress. Apparently the new 15x is much better, and has a 1070 max-q as well.
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:I wasn't that impressed with the aero 15, the build is a little suspect and the touchpad is janky as gently caress. Apparently the new 15x is much better, and has a 1070 max-q as well. The touchpad (ELAN) is balls until you hack Windows Precision drivers, which is an easy fix but shouldn't be necessary in the first place. Build quality thing is hard to guage. The body is mostly metal (aluminum) with the exception of the lid of the back of the screen, though the hinge is made from plastic and is probably a weak spot. The trim of the laptop (the surface that runs along the outside edge) is also plastic I believe. The 15x, as far as I know, has the same everything except for the 1070MQ. It's more powerful for sure, and the thermal solution in the Aero 15/X body handles the extra heat fine as long as you have a good paste job (not guaranteed on stock config). One thing to watch out for on the Aero 15 is light bleed. The bottom bezel of the screen is fastened quite tight and often creates bleed on the bottom edge; it's consistent. With that said, if you're looking for thin+powerful+big battery, you're basically looking at the XPS15 or the Aero 15 at the moment. Razer Blade maybe, as I recall reading that it had good battery life. There is supposed to be an Aorus X3 model (14", 1060, 7700HQ) with a bigger battery (76whr?) but I've never seen it in the wild.
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So the Dell Inspiron 15 7000 Series Gaming Laptop has been working pretty great, but it does run a little hot when doing anything graphically intense. I haven't gotten any errors or crashes, so I think everything is fine, but I was thinking about getting a cooling pad or laptop stand. Are either of these at all worth it, and does anyone have any good recommendations?
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dissss posted:Like I said something is really hosed up on the ‘fixed’ firmware on my HP - it’s easily noticeable using it side by side with a non-updated model. Me too. My 15" Surface Book 2 seems laggy as hell after the firmware update. I thought I was going mad. Placebo or what?
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I've got a HP Envy 17-k that i'm trying to get into. The feet seem abnormally hard to get off and i'm getting to the point where if I pull any harder i'm worried i'm going to break something. Is there a trick to it? Why do HP do this "disassemble the whole thing" game with me?
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hotsauce posted:Me too. My 15" Surface Book 2 seems laggy as hell after the firmware update. I thought I was going mad. I got pissed off enough to reimage it (didn’t help) then swap in another SSD and reimage again. Second time sped it up a huge amount but I’m fairly sure it’s because it didn’t install the January Windows Update yet (it’s approved in WSUS but nothing seems to be installing it at the moment).
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two questions: 1) are egpu There Yet 2) should i just wait for the new batch of ryzen lappies at this point
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Given the prices of everything in desktopworld, I'm now seriously considering taking out the WLAN card from my 2012/13 Asus VivoBook's mini-PCIe slot and using a $50 "Beast" expansion to connect a 2013-vintage video card to the laptop so I can maybe play some PC games while waiting for the buttcoin bubble to burst. Rather than spend $900+ on a machine I would, realistically speaking, just use for games in addition to another $1000-1200 for a new ultrabook, I mean.
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AverySpecialfriend posted:two questions: 1) Sort of. You *will* get better performance out of an eGPU, but the cost of an eGPU enclosure is an additional $300+ on top of buying a GPU in this crypto-hosed market, and Thunderbolt 3 is only 4 lanes of PCIe, which does not allow your desktop-grade GPU to stretch its legs all the way. 2) Entirely up to you. What are you hoping to get out of a Ryzen APU laptop that you might not get out of an Intel or Intel + Nvidia?
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Jan 17, 2018 21:13
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Or the KBL-G equipped notebooks coming out! XPS 15 2-in-1 and HP Spectre x360 15 are on the way. (Please with Freesync 2 panels c'mon OEMs)
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:I wasn't that impressed with the aero 15, the build is a little suspect and the touchpad is janky as gently caress. Apparently the new 15x is much better, and has a 1070 max-q as well. I thought the 15X was basically the same build and body but with the 1070 Max-Q instead of the 1060? Either way it's pretty much impossible to find at the moment. Everywhere I've checked (definitely in Canada but most places in the US I've searched don't have it) has been sold out with no estimate of a restock for some time. Probably going to go for the regular 15 soon since I desparately need a new laptop and after trying one in a store, the touchpad doesn't seem too bad (especially if I can install Precision drivers instead of the Elan ones).
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I've been looking for a new gadget in the ultrabook/tablet category. Newegg popped up a $400 HP ProBook X360, which despite being heavily marked down still seemed over priced for what is is. Any opinions on that one? Or on the more bargain tablet like Onda Obook11? Amazon and Newegg have a bunch of sub $200 tablets by companies ive never heard of. My use case is using a stylus to hand write notes on pdfs and word docs + Slack/Discord/Webbrowsing. I started looking at the more expensive things because I have a bunch of low end games on steam that seem to run on everything. Preferably something on the bigger side with a good display. This is to replace a dying Asus N550J from 2013 which I got when I was constantly traveling. Its definitely been overkill for what I use it for but its physically falling apart and the battery doesn't hold much anymore.
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M_Gargantua posted:I've been looking for a new gadget in the ultrabook/tablet category. Newegg popped up a $400 HP ProBook X360, which despite being heavily marked down still seemed over priced for what is is. Any opinions on that one? Or on the more bargain tablet like Onda Obook11? Amazon and Newegg have a bunch of sub $200 tablets by companies ive never heard of. You've basically described a samsung pro except for the steam part
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M_Gargantua posted:I've been looking for a new gadget in the ultrabook/tablet category. Newegg popped up a $400 HP ProBook X360, which despite being heavily marked down still seemed over priced for what is is. Any opinions on that one? Or on the more bargain tablet like Onda Obook11? Amazon and Newegg have a bunch of sub $200 tablets by companies ive never heard of. https://www.amazon.com/NuVision-Tou...ndows+10+tablet  I know you said on the bigger side, but consider the following: Someone gave me a giftcared for Amazon, and I picked this up as a gamble to see if it would be any good. For $70 bucks, you get: Quad Core Atom CPU (1.66 Ghz Turbo) 2GB LV-DDR3 8 Inch 1920x1200 HD IPS Touchscreen 32GB SSD with MicroSD Slot (supports 128GB-256gb SDXC) Bluetooth 802.11n Micro-HDMI and Micro USB(Both charging and USB Host) I've been pretty impressed, its a GREAT mobile netbook, and comes with FULL Windows 10 Home, with Creators Update so you can have the Linux subsystem. Pros: Really REALLY tiny, 10 point touch screen, high resolution decent video playback USB Rechargeable, so you can charge it with a Phone charger or a mobile battery pack. Comes with a Micro-USB to USB adapter for the MicroUSB port Screen is very crisp and bright Cons: Internal speakers are poor quality Wifi Antenna has poor reception Its not the fastest thing out there, but fast enough for 1080 HD video, light gaming, and minimal multitasking Its super thin. Its so thin, you can bend it. If you have some more cash to spend, these are REALLY awesome: https://www.amazon.com/LANRUO-Pocke...-4&keywords=GPD  Quad Core Intel Atom (2.5 Ghz Turbo) 8GB LV-DDR3 128GB SSD USB 3.0 Ports and USB-C Ports 7 Inch 1920 x 1200 touchscreen Aluminum Body Pocket Size CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 02:57 on Jan 18, 2018 |
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For $70 you've sold me on the first one. If it's that flexible I'm probably going to find a sturdy case but $70 is replace when broken territory
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Lol god drat the nerd in me wants that second one so bad. For no reason.
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That first one is actually tempting as hell lol
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M_Gargantua posted:For $70 you've sold me on the first one. If it's that flexible I'm probably going to find a sturdy case but $70 is replace when broken territory I mean, it's just a shoddy budget metal enclosure they used. Just make sure you keep it in a case or something padded.
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Statutory Ape posted:Lol god drat the nerd in me wants that second one so bad. For no reason. Same, and the only thing I can imagine myself doing on it is running a GBC emulator and playing Pokemon Blue.
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Those with a Wacom pen would be great. My Toshiba Encode 2 Write died and a 13" laptop is too large to take notes.
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Statutory Ape posted:Lol god drat the nerd in me wants that second one so bad. For no reason. The description is good as hell, they are so passionate about their product and I believe it. Fashionable and appropriate for my delicate womanly fingers while I sip a latte and chat with my girlfriends, how much better can it get AverySpecialfriend fucked around with this message at 06:00 on Jan 18, 2018 |
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AverySpecialfriend posted:The description is good as hell, they are so passionate about their product and I believe it. Fashionable and appropriate for my delicate womanly fingers while I sip a latte and chat with my girlfriends, how much better can it get <me> i want the poo poo out of that <friend> yeah drat that's tiny <me> unfortunately i cant think of a single use for it <friend> easy to bring to the shitter <me> lol <friend> sitting at a conspicuous part of a starbucks/dunkin so people see your sweet rear end tiny computer <me> tell the cute barista how its small but really good and effective because im actually using a remote desktop connecftion to my computer i built at home and, pretty much what a friend of mine said in a group chat
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