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VJeff posted:Well, when you're right, you're right, we'd better have Candice win the women's Rumble and Gargano win the men's, then have them win the Raw Women's and Universal Titles. It's the only possible solution. Nothing is going to illustrate how messed up Vince's 'gotta work the dirt sheets, gotta be a SURPRISE!' notion is than the reaction Ciampa's gonna get when he comes out next Saturday. Literally every person in the arena knows it's going to happen, and it doesn't matter, because it's the way the story has to end.
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Gaz-L posted:Nothing is going to illustrate how messed up Vince's 'gotta work the dirt sheets, gotta be a SURPRISE!' notion is than the reaction Ciampa's gonna get when he comes out next Saturday. Literally every person in the arena knows it's going to happen, and it doesn't matter, because it's the way the story has to end. I figure there's a greater-than-zero chance they keep the belt on Cien due to heel shenanigans and then do a rematch in New Orleans tbh more or less depends on what else they would like to do for a main event for that show. Cole vs Gargano, maybe, assuming Cole wins his match against Alister? Alister vs Gargano would be a fun face vs face, I guess, but WWE's always weird about those matchups (...is Ciampa gonna be healed by Mania)
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Gaz-L posted:Nothing is going to illustrate how messed up Vince's 'gotta work the dirt sheets, gotta be a SURPRISE!' notion is than the reaction Ciampa's gonna get when he comes out next Saturday. Literally every person in the arena knows it's going to happen, and it doesn't matter, because it's the way the story has to end. I agree with you in principle, I disagree a little in this particular example. We know Ciampa's gonna show up, but we don't know how. Is he gonna attack Gargano to cost him the match, or is Gargano gonna win and then Ciampa jumps him while he celebrates, ala Owens attacking Zayn or Cole attacking McIntyre? abraham linksys posted:(...is Ciampa gonna be healed by Mania) I think when he left, the prediction was early 2018?
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I don't think Ciampa is close to coming back E: Even if he was, I think people are working themselves a little too much. With extremely rare exceptions (enough that they stand out), NXT title matches almost always have clean finishes without run-ins. I expect Almas to win because Johnny can afford it, and whatever they do with Gargano and Ciampa, it's probably not involving the belt. Benne fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Jan 18, 2018 |
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oh my god I just realized I misread "Ciampa coming out" as "Gargano winning" somehow I am not awake enough to post about wrestling  but I guess my point still stands, just replace "Cien heel shenangians" with "Ciampa distraction to allow Cien to get the pin on Johnny" Benne posted:E: Even if he was, I think people are working themselves a little too much. With extremely rare exceptions (enough that they stand out), NXT title matches almost always have clean finishes. I expect Almas to win because Johnny can afford it, and whatever they do with Gargano and Ciampa, it's probably not involving the belt. I think if Ciampa's ready to work by Mania, it'd make sense to make it a title match, but I bet that's not a call they could make yet, and they wouldn't have much of a backup plan
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i mean really how healthy do you have to be to walk out and kill johnny gargano with a samurai sword
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Oh, I never said Johnny wouldn't win clean. I just assume Ciampa then comes out, murders him, and maybe steals the belt.
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projecthalaxy posted:i mean really how healthy do you have to be to walk out and kill johnny gargano with a samurai sword Mauro: MAMA MIA, GARGANO LOSING BLOOD FASTER THAN THE SAINTS' LOSE THEIR SEASON AFTER A CATCH FROM QUANDRE DIGGS Nigel McGuinness: LOOK AT THE CLEAN MOTION IN CIAMPA'S STROKE, BRILLIANT! Percy Watson: Whoa.
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https://twitter.com/cagesideseats/status/953860972531408896 Hanson and Rowe look so weird with normal clothes and no makeup
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DarkstarIV posted:I think the only other thing that stuck out to me with the Lacey Evans/Aliyah/Shayna thing was that Ember cut yet another god awful promo. Just give her a manager or something at this point because she's never going to improve. Ember's promo was good and your ridiculous hateboner for her is the funniest thing about PSP
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Rarity posted:Ember's promo was good and your ridiculous hateboner for her is the funniest thing about PSP I have no problem with Ember's in ring work. It is actually great. But her promo skills have not improved at all since joining NXT. She either sounds like a robot or has no inflection.
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ozymandius1024 posted:Go on...... They had their last house show there as well. I had a great time, so now I'm gonna have to get tickets to this one!
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Rarity posted:Ember's promo was good and your ridiculous hateboner for her is the funniest thing about PSP Eh, it wasn't great. Nothing she says sounds natural, still. It felt like she was trying to be/sound like a scary bad rear end and it felt forced. On the other hand, I'm stoked TM61 is getting the Roderick video treatment. Hopefully it'll result in everyone actually having a reason to be interested in them. Anyone else thinking AOP lose at Takeover and get called up to avoid having too many big guy teams with War Machine coming in?
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Phenix Rising posted:On the other hand, I'm stoked TM61 is getting the Roderick video treatment. Hopefully it'll result in everyone actually having a reason to be interested in them. y'know, I was skeptical when they did it for Roddy, but it worked out over time, so maybe it'll work for them too. the one thing is I kinda wish they waited until after TM61 had returned for a couple squashes to start doing it, be able to show current ring work and those packages side by side, but eh I guess it'll maybe help pop the crowd for their return
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TM61 is getting a name change.
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rovert posted:TM61 is getting a name change. oh, this is very good to hear
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I still want no Ciampa on Saturday, but both Gargano and Ciampa in the Rumble... But I'll take any Ciampa return I can get.
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rovert posted:TM61 is getting a name change. Good, I was tired of them never teaching anyone Will O Wisp.
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I always wanted to like TM61 but they never gave me a reason to care in their last run, so this is a nice refresher.
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My idea is to make one of TM61 turn on the other one and have them interfere in eachothers' matches about 8 times each. Purpose: To Continue Feud. afterward, they will both have enough overness to be mid-carders on the main roster. i don't know if things have changed but this worked extremely well when it was free and accessible to book wrestling in 2002.
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Benne posted:I always wanted to like TM61 but they never gave me a reason to care in their last run, so this is a nice refresher. I thought the match they had with AOP was really good and opened up a few eyes, but that was one of their last matches before Shanes knee surgery
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The problem with TM61 right now is if they debuted without a gimmick change or anything, they would probably be dead in the water. Especially with War Machine, AOP, Sanity, Heavy Machinery, etc all floating around still.
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Yeah, TM61 kind of bombed when there was like 2 tag teams on NXT, and now there's actually a fairly robust division. They should probably have stayed in Japan. Maybe Roppongi 3K would have a second team to wrestle.
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TM61 had a very good match with AoP (that was justifiably overshadowed by DIY/Revival 2/3 Falls) and I vaguely recall they were headed into a feud with Revival before they needed surgery? That probably would've been starmaking for them. Like, I don't care one way or the other but I'm very willing to give these two the benefit of the doubt, purely because NXT's Tag Team Division can't seem to stop hitting home runs, so why would it stop now?
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The tag division can always use a little-guy babyface team, and right now the only other little-guy team is Fish/O'Reilly (also Lorcan/Burch but they can't buy TV time right now  ), so TM61 should have a spot without much trouble.The soft-focus feature did wonders in getting people to care about Roddy, so I don't see why it'd be any different here.
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That stuff seems to just do gangbusters in general, which kinda makes you wonder why they never do it on the main roster!
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Gaz-L posted:Yeah, TM61 kind of bombed when there was like 2 tag teams on NXT, and now there's actually a fairly robust division. They should probably have stayed in Japan. Maybe Roppongi 3K would have a second team to wrestle. They were getting over before Shane got injured.
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Man, I hate crowds talking over wrestlers trying to talk in the ring but darn good speech from Joey.
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TM61 had good momentum off of that Takeover match and then Shane got hurt. I don't really see how it's fair to make any kind of assessment of them at this point.
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rovert posted:They were getting over before Shane got injured. i remember being genuinely impressed with them with the finals of the dusty classic, dealing with the weird shark cage structure and a greener Authors of Pain. Also I hope they just get renamed, "The Mighty".
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Shane did the cool high spot and the other guy demonstrated good power for a guy w/ his frame, so it was cool
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ChuckDeNomolos posted:i remember being genuinely impressed with them with the finals of the dusty classic, dealing with the weird shark cage structure and a greener Authors of Pain. Also I hope they just get renamed, "The Mighty".
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Was there an issue with them being called TMDK or were they just victims of NXT's wishy washy naming conventions? Did they expect EA was gonna sue them over an ancient trademark?
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They weren't big enough indie draws for them to keep their names, which means a complete renaming in WWE terms. They used the phrase as a catchphrase for a couple of weeks, I think.
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Basic Chunnel posted:Was there an issue with them being called TMDK or were they just victims of NXT's wishy washy naming conventions? Did they expect EA was gonna sue them over an ancient trademark? It is a long explanation but essentially that's the case but I don't think EA is a factor. However, Shane and Mikey are looking to secure TMDK for themselves independently.
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Gaz-L posted:They weren't big enough indie draws for them to keep their names, which means a complete renaming in WWE terms. They used the phrase as a catchphrase for a couple of weeks, I think. They still use it in packages
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rovert posted:It is a long explanation but essentially that's the case but I don't think EA is a factor. are they looking for the trademark in the US only? it seems to still be in use in Australia; I was pretty bemused when I watched Okada/Slex and Slex was announced as part of TMDK since I didn't realize it was a stable beyond Shane and Mikey too bad WWE would never be chill enough to let a Los Ingobernables de Japon situation arise with TMDK in the US
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Looking forward to TM61's new shirt: TM61! Like the Undisputed Era, but less so!
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