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AP posted:CIG have to settle, they have no choice, so the Crytek stuff might not last much longer. The only variables I see are the minimum amount Crytek will accept and if Chris Roberts can somehow raise that much. Raising money is the only thing he seems to be good at but CIG absolutely have to settle before discovery. Chris needs to just crank out twin pairs of black market Anvil Super Hornets — actual “unauthorized” military spec versions that punch way above their weight — then sell them only in a one time, never to be released again bundle called “The Fire & Fury Pack”. Pitch it as a way to send a message to the greedy evil Crytek and Skadden even while getting in on an amazing buying opportunity. Put hot flame decals on the Fire and Shark Teeth on the Fury because ”WW2”. Ka-ching!
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stinch posted:didn't they get Amazon engineers on site? seeing as how cig appear to have no competence at any aspect of game development and can only deliver when outside contractors do all the work that would be an advantage going into the switch. Amazon on site was an Agent leak/rumour Brian Chambers said they were getting zero support from Crytek and moving to Amazon would fix that and give them access to new tech. My issues with that explanation are: 1. Crytek's support only covers what the engine is documented to do (ie not spaceships and planets) 2. Crytek's support is limited to training and standard tech support for the engine as documented 3. Lumberyard is an fps engine with basic networking, wtf are Amazon going to be able to do if someone tries to make a space mmo with it? In other words there was nothing to be gained apart from "access to new LY tech" which I have not seen any evidence for and which makes NO SENSE as CIG have claimed for 2 years they consider the engine to be Star Engine as it has been so dramatically customised. Nothing these guys have been saying regarding the engine change stands up to scrutiny.
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it's incredibly funny that the terrible engine choice has resulted in this scenario like there's that star citizen live show video where a heckler yells out "CryEngine sucks!" this engine was not really wanted by the backers, totally useless for the scope of the job, and now might sink CIG by forcing them into a costly trial this is some like, cosmic planning by whatever power runs the universe. it's just terrific.
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grimcreaper posted:"We have translated the Progenitor language. It is a repeating message as follows: Homeworld 2 sort of felt like it was making GBS threads on everything to do with 1: "So, that six month journey for survival against the odds? Yeah, you won that because of *magic* and now you need to assemble the other two magic rings to wield the magic super sword that's locked in a magic chest and become King of all Space! " It looks great and plays well, but it fucks up the story so profoundly I just sort of assume it takes place standalone. Also the Pride of Hiigara looks so much worse than the original Mothership.
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SomethingJones posted:3. Lumberyard is an fps engine with basic networking, wtf are Amazon going to be able to do if someone tries to make a space mmo with it? Apparently plaster it all over their website as an example of the kind of work they're doing. Consider my chuckle gland jacked to the tits if their agreement with CIG included sharing improvements to the code as they build a space mmo.
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G0RF posted:Chris needs to just crank out twin pairs of black market Anvil Super Hornets — actual “unauthorized” military spec versions that punch way above their weight — then sell them only in a one time, never to be released again bundle called “The Fire & Fury Pack”. Pitch it as a way to send a message to the greedy evil Crytek and Skadden even while getting in on an amazing buying opportunity. I seem to recall there were rumours of them seeking investment at Games Com 2016, I don't think even 3-4 months of big sales is going to cover the Crytek bill, considering that money would presumably already be earmarked for running costs. I think Chris Roberts will be giving lots of studio tours to potential investors and the larger ones won't be paying $350 a head, maybe the new shares that were issued play into this too.
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I gave this citizen a cue for a new derek fanfic e: apparently it didn't contain enough detail yet 
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alf_pogs posted:it's incredibly funny that the terrible engine choice has resulted in this scenario It's seriously some impressive levels of being utterly hosed. Like, they're five years in, they can't turn back now. And think of all the successful MMOs on Cryengine, like, uh, this thing?? 
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IncredibleIgloo posted:In defense of Clifford, he seems to keep almost all of his comments positive. Even the comments in regards to SC's detractors or issues are framed in a positive way. I have to say that while I am immensely creeped out by the anime angle, and am a little off put at the extreme cash outlay into a failed dream, he seems really affable. If most of the vocal Star Citizen backers acted like him, I think it would be a real improvement for their community. I imagine he keeps his comments positive to maintain a good reputation for his streaming. If that is the case, he may be the most professional acting of all the characters involved in Star Citizen. I stand with Clifford. His loyalty to Chris Roberts and affinity for Miku seem bizarre but he’s too amiable and gentle spirited to be lumped in with the jerk class citizens. He and my boy Dan ”let’s gooooooooh” Gheesling put friendlier faces on the game than most of the usual suspects. CIG needs more personalities that actually seem to enjoy playing the game and don’t have livestream meltdowns every fortnight.
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I kept reading that as a Stimpit, which is a totally different thing than a simpit.
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I Greyhound posted:I kept reading that as a Stimpit, which is a totally different thing than a simpit. From a financial perspective they're not terribly dissimilar.
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G0RF posted:CIG needs more personalities that actually seem to enjoy playing the game and don’t have livestream meltdowns every fortnight. Well if you know anyone else who identifies as an anime doll and has $30,000 to spare on a video game don't be shy about slinging them a referral code.
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alf_pogs posted:it's incredibly funny that the terrible engine choice has resulted in this scenario It was the worst possible engine choice for what they wanted to do but it was the only choice because all the big publishers shot down Chris's phenomenaly dumb idea. Crytek cut them a deal and helped with the crowd funding demos that made 177 million dollars but no game. Star Citizen was never going to happen, ever.
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AP posted:I seem to recall there were rumours of them seeking investment at Games Com 2016, I don't think even 3-4 months of big sales is going to cover the Crytek bill, considering that money would presumably already be earmarked for running costs. I think Chris Roberts will be giving lots of studio tours to potential investors and the larger ones won't be paying $350 a head, maybe the new shares that were issued play into this too. It seems more likely than not. The  version would be that the Concierge dinner event for $350 will have a very special surprise, “Here’s a stock certificate with your very first share comped with your dinner. But if you want to buy more, you’re in for a treat!”There would be a temporary outrage for non-attendees quickly addressed as CIG unveils that shares in the world’s first quadruple A game can now be bought be anyone! And the more you buy, the more extra little in-game ship perks you get for free! Dusty Lens posted:Well if you know anyone else who identifies as an anime doll and has $30,000 to spare on a video game don't be shy about slinging them a referral code.  went to a Miku concert if memory serves. Let’s start with him!
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I am completely in love with the idea of the concierge alpha team being assembled to serve as the seed bank for some kind of confidence investment system.
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AP posted:I mean what I said, CIG will have to settle this for whatever they can get Crytek to accept. Personally I don't believe Crytek is going to turn down something in double digit millions and run a real risk of getting nothing due to CIG going bust, CIG need to figure out what the low end is. This would be the smart thing to do. But really... The whole reason the suit exists in the first place is because of Robert "I Made This" Space, and his inability to leave other peoples money on the table when they aren't looking. He will imagine his way into court.
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Tippis posted:So more of a D pose, then? More like a D pose.
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May I interest you in a Banu Multi Level Merchantman?
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a blast from the past. Skadden might be pretty interested in these     I liked how openly ben parry discussed about things, but little did he know about what future brings. I feel like this would have been quite fine discussion in normal game company, but we all now know that CIG is abnormal. Even telling the truth can turn against it 
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This is wonderful!
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Put all the shares of CIG on a block chain. Call it Citcoin. Earn more Citcoins by running the SC client.
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-Everybody else is just a pre-investor! -Your investment will grow with the galaxy, right now we have 1/9 of a system... out of a hundred! That's a 900% growth-chance. -Generations from now, people will see your name attached to the greatest game in history -Chris would only extend this special one-of-a-kind offer to his most trusted friends. -And so does Sandi, if you know what we mean. -Opportunities to invest into a C.R. game have not happened since the 90s. -Bezos is a fan and wanted to invest but we feel indebted to our real supporters. -Get this... Citizencoin! -If you can convince another 2 people to invest, and they convince a mere other 2 people, then, thanks to your upline, you'll be getting more than enough after a mere 17 levels. -Finally, a qualified investor will be allowed to buy a (ahem), sorry, I am not allowed to disclose this information until the next meeting. trucutru fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Jan 22, 2018 |
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Dooguk posted:There is something about people who tell everyone how much they give to charity. You can use that world Caufield, but I prefer braggadocio myself.
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SomethingJones posted:Tax credits, selling SQ42 pre-orders, ending Crytek support, a payday loan, land sales and motherfucking tanks. Don't forget pushing a broken and unplayable 3.0 to live, having Gamescom streamers reset every 15min cos of memory leaks, and the massively popular and successful Hello Kitty referral program competition  And I know we've forgotten more stuff 
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hot balls man no homo posted:Put all the shares of CIG on a block chain. Call it Citcoin. Earn more Citcoins by running the SC client. Has anyone said Shitcoin but in reference to Star Citizen?
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Wait this is the bar? WHo can play SC at 60 fps?
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I find it quite comical that all the internet lawyers still haven't figured out the lawsuit is going to be decided by a jury. Of which, probably think It's ludicrous to spend a dime on game and items that don't exist.
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The moron doesn't even realise that all his precious jpegs were all probably made on a mac, and macs are probably a significant part of the art asset pipeline and video production at CIG because Windows is loving terrible at running industry standard art tools like Illustrator, Photoshop, InDesign and Premiere. Idiots who don't get the difference between the uses of a Windows PC and an Apple IOS device rankle me like gently caress. And if CIG aren't using Macs, loving LOL.
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When people say Homeworld 2 is good, you just need to think about the logic -- or lack thereof -- surrounding the Balcora Gate towards the end of the game. The antagonist Makaan has gone through the Balcora Gate to find the god-ship Sajuuk. In order to prevent the player from following, his own people have began to destroy the gate. The Balcora Gate is the only way to get to Sajuuk. It is also the only way out, unless Sajuuk is reunited with the three hyperspace cores. Makaan does not have the three cores, he only possesses two of them. The player has the third. So, why bother following him at all? Once Makaan has gone through, just let his followers blow up the gate and strand their own leader in the center of the galaxy. Additionally, if you never follow Makaan through, he never is killed, which means the planet killers never threaten Hiigara.
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"Can your paintbrush write like a pen? If no get out of here with that poo poo." -A Star Citizen PC master race idiot.
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Xaerael posted:The moron doesn't even realise that all his precious jpegs were all probably made on a mac, and macs are probably a significant part of the art asset pipeline and video production at CIG because Windows is loving terrible at running industry standard art tools like Illustrator, Photoshop, InDesign and Premiere. Idiots who don't get the difference between the uses of a Windows PC and an Apple IOS device rankle me like gently caress. Yeah it would be funny if they finally found a way to not waste money for purely marketing purposes, I agree
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AP posted:I seem to recall there were rumours of them seeking investment at Games Com 2016, I don't think even 3-4 months of big sales is going to cover the Crytek bill, considering that money would presumably already be earmarked for running costs. I think Chris Roberts will be giving lots of studio tours to potential investors and the larger ones won't be paying $350 a head, maybe the new shares that were issued play into this too. Heard that rumour too, from quite a few people
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Quavers posted:Don't forget pushing a broken and unplayable 3.0 to live, having Gamescom streamers reset every 15min cos of memory leaks, and the massively popular and successful Hello Kitty referral program competition You know what we need We need a list
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Xaerael posted:The moron doesn't even realise that all his precious jpegs were all probably made on a mac, and macs are probably a significant part of the art asset pipeline and video production at CIG because Windows is loving terrible at running industry standard art tools like Illustrator, Photoshop, InDesign and Premiere. Idiots who don't get the difference between the uses of a Windows PC and an Apple IOS device rankle me like gently caress. Errrmmm, my 1950X 1080Ti SLI 64GB editbox box rofflestomps any mac you can buy running Resolve or Premiere. Seriously not even close.
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tuo posted:This should be played in a non-stop loop during discovery During opening statements: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_xwFI3TPs0
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AP posted:I bet everything spent by F42 in the UK plus the 2015 motion shoot have had full tax credits since 2014. Could be £10-30 million because I like making figures up. My sources within the British Royal Family have confirmed over coffee at the Royal Starbucks that these numbers are correct if not far more more, or possibly less. Calling it now.
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Experimental Skin posted:Errrmmm, my 1950X 1080Ti SLI 64GB editbox box rofflestomps any mac you can buy running Resolve or Premiere. Seriously not even close. That doesn't change the fact that industry standard for film is to run inside a Mac ecosystem? 90% of any post or finishing house here in LA will be running all of the above on Macs and cutting on Avids, or you're running some kind of custom Linux build on a specced out box at VFX shops. No idea how much of that carries over from the art side of film to the video game world, but it would absolutely shock me to find out that CIG was exclusively PC-Master-Race boxes. Beluga Snail fucked around with this message at 02:17 on Jan 22, 2018 |
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Beluga Snail posted:That doesn't change the fact that industry standard for film is to run inside a Mac ecosystem? 90% of any post or finishing house here in LA will be running all of the above on Macs and cutting on Avids, or you're running some kind of custom Linux build on a specced out box at VFX shops. No idea how much of that carries over from the art side of film to the video game world, but it would absolutely shock me to find out that CIG was exclusively PC-Master-Race boxes. Why? Why would that "absolutely shock you?" Is it not your opinion that using PC-Master-Race boxes would be the wrong choice to run the apps you're referring to? That was the impression I got - did I read it wrong? Because the only next logical conclusion I can possibly draw is that you are positing the following: "It would absolutely shock me to find out that CIG was doing the wrong thing."
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