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dk2m posted:- How much of a difference does the performance pack add in the real world? I’ve also read that there’s a level 2 that’s out for 2018 but Fords build website doesn’t seem to have it. It seems legit, but not sure - The major difference is you get 3.73 gears in the back and the recaros are very nice, I wouldn't say the suspension upgrades are worth it though. - Coyotes are pretty solid now, not sure about the newest iteration with the direct injection though. - No - I managed 5k under msrp on my car and I wasn't trying very hard. - I run snows on my car all winter it's fine. Theres even a snow mode if you are scared(I just use track in the winter who cares) - I've never been in a car with magnaride but there don't seem to be many complaints about it
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- Are there any common issues on GTs? IE: head gskets, etc. Mustangs are notorious for suddenly losing control and eating pedestrians on the sidewalk. (Especially at car events!) Daily driving increases the Mustangs appetite to eat pedestrians by 100,000% - The MagneRide system seems really impressive from a technical point of view, but how effective is it? Is it recommended to upgrade to? Anything you can do to increase performance and/or comfort do it. Especially when daily driving.
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Thanks everyone - Im gonna drive a few different versions of the 2018 and see what they’re like, but on paper, it seems like a no brainer. I’m genuinely shocked that the common issues (barring the new engine design which probably remains to be seen) seems very benign. I can deal with rattles as long as it isn’t eating oil or deciding to poo poo out white smoke
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Jan 23, 2018 16:33
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Just make sure you get either the new orange or new crimson with the black accents. Those are so rad, I’m glad the price went up so I don’t have to worry about trading my ‘16 for one.
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Jan 23, 2018 16:54
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Buhbuhj posted:- The major difference is you get 3.73 gears in the back and the recaros are very nice, I wouldn't say the suspension upgrades are worth it though. You don't get Recaros with the PP. You get 3.73's as mentioned, 19" black wheels w/ the AMAZING Pilot Spot 4S tires (I seriously love these, so much grip), big Brembo front brakes, and a bunch of suspension "tweaks" which probably don't amount to much. I like the wing too, but you can order it without. And yeah as mentioned you can get deals. I got mine around $5k under sticker, $2k under invoice. 
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I got my 2016 GT Premium Sport Package basically at invoice without trying. It was a special order that someone walked away from and they listed it on the website at that price. I've had it right at two years, and have had a few weird issues. The main strut bolt on the front passengar side was loose and caused a weird clunking sound when going over bumps. I also had a CEL for some minor valve thing, but I can't remember the details. Also the lumbar controls weren't working on the driver seat. While I'm on the subject, is the seat back supposed to be heated and cooled as well? I haven't been able to get a clear answer, but it still doesn't seem to be working. Other than that just the normal Ford rattles and squeaks. I would love to have the MagneRide and the active exhaust, but since they got rid of the best color (Deep Impact Blue) I have to stick with what I have. It is still my favorite thing I have ever owned.
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Bandire posted:I got my 2016 GT Premium Sport Package basically at invoice without trying. It was a special order that someone walked away from and they listed it on the website at that price. I have a premium '16 ecoboost and my seat backs heat/cool. Sounds like yours is probably busted
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Bandire posted:I got my 2016 GT Premium Sport Package basically at invoice without trying. It was a special order that someone walked away from and they listed it on the website at that price. The seat backs are supposed to be heated and cooled. I saw a thread somewhere that somebody was complaining of the same thing, and got it fixed under warranty. I'm so glad I got active exhaust. The quiet start mode in the morning as great, so I don't have to sound like a dick and wake up my neighbor's 1 year old. In sport and track mode it sounds amazing. Being able to change it on the fly is great.
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Jan 23, 2018 17:42
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The leathers are supposed to be heated and cooled. But the cooling is mediocre at best. The heating works well.
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dk2m posted:Thanks everyone - Im gonna drive a few different versions of the 2018 and see what they’re like, but on paper, it seems like a no brainer. I know this is the mustang thread and saw what you said about Camaros, but I would still have a drive in one when you cross shop. A 1LE if you can find one. They're insanely good.
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Thanks guys. I had them look at it the last time it was in the shop, and they only fixed the lumbar thing and said everything else was fine. I had just assumed the cooling was poo poo since my wife's car is massively better, but the seat back is definitely not heating up.
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Larrymer posted:I know this is the mustang thread and saw what you said about Camaros, but I would still have a drive in one when you cross shop. A 1LE if you can find one. They're insanely good. Yeah agreed, my only problem with the Camaro is the styling. It just looks...smooshed? Still, that’s on my list. So I’m guessing I’ve been bad with the Perfomance Pack Level 2? It looks appealing, but maybe overkill for the street. I guess they’re going after the 1LE. Wider tires, stiffer dampers and an appearance package but it does include the MagneRide standard. I can’t find poo poo else about it other than press releases. The Ford dealers Ive asked are all giving me blanks as well http://performance.ford.com/enthusiasts/media-room/2017/10/mustang-gt-performance-pack-2.html
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Jan 23, 2018 18:45
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Recaros are a separate package now? That sucks. Ford getting a little nuts with the packages.
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Buhbuhj posted:Recaros are a separate package now? That sucks. Ford getting a little nuts with the packages.
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It does appear that way, Ive always seen them attached to every pp car I just figured they were part of it.
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Buhbuhj posted:It does appear that way, Ive always seen them attached to every pp car I just figured they were part of it.
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ilkhan posted:Some people want to keep the heating/cooling functions, even with the pp. 🤔 I am some people.
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Bandire posted:I am some people.
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So is the Coyote Gen3 available in crate form or what?
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Looks like you can get the aluminator but not the newest iteration with direct injection yet.
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ilkhan posted:The leathers are supposed to be heated and cooled. But the cooling is mediocre at best. The heating works well. Agreed. Love my heated seats, but the cooler just makes me feel like I’m damp. Never use the cooler.
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When I left the dealer after buying mine I didn't know the seat cooler was turned on, and after a few minutes thought I sat in something wet after they washed it. Was hoping it'd be nice in the summer, but I guess it'll just feel damp
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That digital dash is so insanely cool. drat. Can I pull out my 16 cluster and throw that in? No? poo poo.
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What is that shifter extension kit?: https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/articles/over-prepared-mustang/ I always thought it was kind of crazy how forward the shifter was in the New Edge.
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kimbo305 posted:What is that shifter extension kit?: I dont know what that shifter is but the whole package is amazing!!!!
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Wait, how'd they let him race without a full roll cage?
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It's an autocross car. Stuff like that, rallyx, track days, and some entry level time trial stuff is generally fine to do with just a helmet.
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long shot question..... Can the 14" Wilwood brakes with 6 piston calipers clear 18" FR500 replica wheels? if so, is there any links or photos of it to help me verify?
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So, Adam Brunson at Tune+ (the ninja that custom tunes my 2016 Ecoboost) made a big post today about how they found something interesting in the fuel system that's likely contributing to the ecoboom problems. quote:#1 - Lowside Fuel Pressure Sensor tl;dr: lowside fuel pressure sensors are loving up, the car isn't setting a MIL, and when boost happens the high pressure side starts dumping fuel thanks to faulty readings from the low side. Have some data from someone else who captured this behavior while logging:   The highlighted column is actual fuel rail pressure, and it goes to poo poo while at WOT spinning 4500-5000rpm and getting blasted with 23psi of boost. Guy's loving lucky it didn't grenade. If you look at the Lowside Actual FP column you can see it's stuck giving an incorrect reading, so instead of the ECU ignoring it (as it would if the sensor was unplugged) it's trusting the incorrect reading. After reading this, I decided to check my trouble codes even though I don't have any lights on. P018C, fuel pressure sensor B circuit low. Changed the monitor layout on my AccessPort to show lowside desired and actual pressures - desired is 70-80psi but actual reading is 0.0. Fantastic. I'm lucky that at least until now I'm in the "safer" of the two failure modes, but now I've got to track down that drat sensor and try swapping it out. Factory techs were chiming in saying they were seeing it regularly on cars that weren't modified at all. I'm glad they stumbled upon this issue and put out a warning. Bottom line: between this and the head gasket issues, anyone with an Ecoboost should be on guard.
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Man way to make me feel better about going from an eco to a GT.
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Pony in Italy, part 7 or so:
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H2SO4 posted:So, Adam Brunson at Tune+ I bought an Ecoboost because junkyard engines are $800 on ebay. Going to lookup your guy though to get me closer to needing one.
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H2SO4 posted:Bottom line: between this and the head gasket issues, anyone with an Ecoboost should be on guard. I have a 2016 ecoboost with no mods- can you put this post in English for someone who doesn't speak gear-head? Basically just want to know what the symptoms of this are so I can spot the issue if it happens to me.
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Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be much in the way of warning. If you car seems to lose a bunch of power or stumbles while in boost that's not a good sign. Also, have your trouble codes read even if you don't have a check engine light. Air/fuel ratio gauge might also give you a bit of warning if you see it suddenly spike during boost.Elephanthead posted:I bought an Ecoboost because junkyard engines are $800 on ebay. Going to lookup your guy though to get me closer to needing one. Here's his website. I've been super happy with the results I've seen and I've been tuned since around 3000 miles. H2SO4 fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Mar 10, 2018 |
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got a link to that post? i have a friend who should read it
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H2SO4 posted:Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be much in the way of warning. If you car seems to lose a bunch of power or stumbles while in boost that's not a good sign. Also, have your trouble codes read even if you don't have a check engine light. Air/fuel ratio gauge might also give you a bit of warning if you see it suddenly spike during boost. Thanks, the E85 looks tasty.
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I've been with Adam for like 12k miles now. There's a lot of hate online for him because he's super reactionary about the ecoboost poo poo and half the time he's been straight up wrong, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with his tuning. His average tunes are very safe and if you request he can go balls out and get some silly numbers. The fuel thing looks like a decent lead but time will tell if it's another fluke or an actual thing thats blowing up cars. I think the headgasket issue is overblown, it's mainly from head lift which is usually from detonation but theres a 100 reasons why that can happen and its not common enough to even worry about.
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RFC2324 posted:got a link to that post? i have a friend who should read it This is the post, but you might have to be a member of the Ecoboost Mustang Technical group to see it. Buhbuhj posted:I think the headgasket issue is overblown, it's mainly from head lift which is usually from detonation but theres a 100 reasons why that can happen and its not common enough to even worry about. I agree with you here, I feel like there are shortcomings with the design but it shouldn't be something that'd be a factor until you start really cranking things up.
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H2SO4 posted:This is the post, but you might have to be a member of the Ecoboost Mustang Technical group to see it. Appears you do need to be, but it also appears that said friend is, so it works 
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