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The Management posted:no idea if this will succeed in this market, but that’s how Apple plays. this all makes sense but “little speaker i can ask things that plays music badly” is not something i can see ever wanting to have. i am sure it will make money but i dont understand why someone would want this device in this form factor to begin with when you can just get a real stereo and have better sound or talk to your phone if you want siri/alexa/whatever.
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kwinklesOFFICIAL posted:get a real stereo with speakers and plug your existing appletv into it. bam done problem solved. that’s what I was gonna do but then that rear end in a top hat Tim said the HomePod would come out REAL SOON and here we are a year later
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infernal machines posted:unrelated, have you ever tried a/ux on your quadro? our own Lain put it on her Quadra 800 back in the fall. can't find the relevant tweets atm
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kwinklesOFFICIAL posted:this all makes sense but “little speaker i can ask things that plays music badly” is not something i can see ever wanting to have.
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kwinklesOFFICIAL posted:this all makes sense but “little speaker i can ask things that plays music badly” is not something i can see ever wanting to have. I agree, especially since Siri is still bad. but then you said “real stereo” which rings a lot like “real computer”, versus something you plop on your shelf and it just works, which makes me think they’re on to something.
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amazon has sold somewhere in the vicinity of 5 million echos going into this past holiday. regardless of your personal desire for one, there's clearly a market there. whether apple is entering too little too late is another question is entirely
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yeah, the success of the echo and to a lesser extent sonos shows you that there very much is a market for 'small speaker that plays things and sometimes you can ask it things it wont know the answer to probably' but hey you know what that market wants? to play their spotify poo poo.
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The Management posted:I agree, especially since Siri is still bad. but then you said “real stereo” which rings a lot like “real computer”, versus something you plop on your shelf and it just works, which makes me think they’re on to something. fair enough. might be a nice speaker for a bathroom or kitchen or something, but i would be way more autistic about a living room stereo.
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kwinklesOFFICIAL posted:fair enough.
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ufarn posted:the homepod makes perfect sense, except apple have fumbled all of siri, iot, and apple music lol can’t fumble before the snap
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:actually I really really desire a HomePod because I’ve realized I’ve been listening to music on headphones for far too long
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ios 11.2 and a half: imessages will now return to sequential time
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thank christ, that bug has been driving me up a goddamn wall
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Jan 23, 2018 23:36
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about loving time. did they ever fix this on macOS because it’s been happening for years.
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The Management posted:I agree, especially since Siri is still bad. but then you said “real stereo” which rings a lot like “real computer”, versus something you plop on your shelf and it just works, which makes me think they’re on to something. Siri is so so bad.
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The Management posted:about loving time. did they ever fix this on macOS because it’s been happening for years. looks like it
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i used to get that problem a lot when imessage first came out for macs but i haven't seen it in forever
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qirex posted:my receiver is an airplay endpoint and it owns, turns itself on and everything when I hit play in the itunes remote app on my phone, once airplay 2 hits I'll be able to sync it with the sonos in my bedroom for maximum pleasure
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cis autodrag posted:Siri is so so bad. you know I feel like it’s actually getting worse? I mean Siri sounds better but seems to miss more stuff lately, or doesn’t get my meaning... or maybe just been standing still for so long but google voice works amazing for whatever I say
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are the poverty-level sonos play:1 speakers going to have airplay 2 capability? I was reading the official sonos forum thing and they said it’s questionable, as we have no idea how good or bad the chipset is inside. airplay 2 is supposed to be 100% software based so it’s possible they can upgrade them, but I have little hope considering it’s the entry level product. (though someone on the forums claims that bose’s alarm clock will be airplay 2 compatible so it’d be shameful as all hell if sonos can’t get it to work) also I’m not buying sonos one because hahahaha gently caress if you think I’m going to let amazon dot loving com listen inside my house. 
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The Management posted:okay, let me spell it out for you guys. this is Apple doing what they do on every product ever. they are only targeting the highest end first. if that catches on they will move down market. This is me. I actually had Sonos, with a Playbar and two Play:1s in a multi-room setup, but the app loving sucks and the multi-room audio was always slightly out of sync, enough to make the whole thing more trouble than it was worth for me. With that said, I'm prepared for a 1.0 disappointment.
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apple is diving headfirst in to a technologically ill-conceived and functionally half-baked market in some desperate attempt to be the also-ran because of tim's gnawing fear of missing out? the devil you say
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post the ipod socks
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loving finally
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i really want the homepod but after having a terribad experience with the apple watch for a few days i’m gonna hold out until i see some reviews
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:i really want the homepod but after having a terribad experience with the apple watch for a few days i’m gonna hold out until i see some reviews did you ditch it after a few days of resolve the problems
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cinci zoo sniper posted:did you ditch it after a few days of resolve the problems i returned it because they removed the main feature i lusted for in an update, picking music stored on my phone using it, to push the 3g edition, and the workout tracking was really quite underwhelming also it fought with my phone a lot for control of my bluetooth headphones, leading to a lot of jittery audio basically it was real bad
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:i returned it because they removed the main feature i lusted for in an update, picking music stored on my phone using it, to push the 3g edition, and the workout tracking was really quite underwhelming  im kind of entertained by the idea, but i guess ill hold out for now
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i really wanted to like it and it looked and felt real nice but at the end of the day charging another device every night was just not worth the hassle with the small amount of features i got in return, and not being able to do the most obvious thing of scrolling through your phone music on it just felt like a huge gently caress you from timb
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:i really wanted to like it and it looked and felt real nice but at the end of the day charging another device every night was just not worth the hassle with the small amount of features i got in return, and not being able to do the most obvious thing of scrolling through your phone music on it just felt like a huge gently caress you from timb thats super loving dumb that you cant even use it for music normally
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cinci zoo sniper posted:thats super loving dumb that you cant even use it for music normally watchos 4 is worse in pretty much every way, it’s incredible
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missed that apple also still won't be releasing airplay 2 which was announced summer 2017, smh
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pram posted:unprecedented the sound from this thing whipped rear end.
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HomeKit is actually great because it’s the only thing out there which actually gives a poo poo about granting access to other people. Want your friend to be able to control the lights (but not when they’re outside your network)? Done. Grant your girlfriend the ability to control poo poo and revoke it easily when you get dumped. By extension the automation it can do is significantly less stupid, such as turning everything off only when the last person leaves, so you don’t suddenly get plunged into darkness
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homekit is the only iot framework i would actually trust without doing a masters degree in iot frameworks but that doesn’t say anything about the homepod as a product
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Apple Watch is cool because it’s like hey wouldn’t it be awesome if all the useless, spammy push notifications you got on your phone were now suddenly pushed to wrist instead, with the option of either impossible to notice haptics or impossible to ignore haptics? And wouldn’t it be cool if the only way to see what was tapping your wrist all the time was to have to flick your wrist in such a way that you look like a jackass to the other human beings you were talking to? And wouldn’t it be great if the only way to tame the nonsense was to spend more time flipping switches in the watch app than a Linux user spends configuring their OS? And wouldn’t it be super cool if there was a round hardware button and a long hardware button that both basically do the same thing but not quite because oops Jony bet big on Sprint and Google’s circle of friends feature and now they have to desperately redesign the OS every year to try to fix a hardware design flaw?
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