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Pretty good episode, but I still don't entirely buy the Not Team Arrow's thought process. I get the frustration at being spied on, but it's not like Ollie or the team in general, has ever not had their best interests at heart otherwise. The apology was legit and heartfelt, it just seems they don't want to re-team up out of pettiness. Seems like the two teams will meet in the field and hijinks will ensue. Fully expecting this division to last until like the third last episode when they realize they have to get together to fight the 5 baddies. Still not sure who that fifth guy is, though. Whoever decided that Thea and Lance must always share scenes is a goddamn genius. They're both complete treasures and I never expected Thea to be the voice of most reason, nor did I expect their relationship to be the one I'm most interested in. Good job, Arrow writers.
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# ? Jan 19, 2018 23:38 |
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# ? Apr 25, 2024 09:31 |
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Sir Potato posted:Pretty good episode, but I still don't entirely buy the Not Team Arrow's thought process. I get the frustration at being spied on, but it's not like Ollie or the team in general, has ever not had their best interests at heart otherwise. The apology was legit and heartfelt, it just seems they don't want to re-team up out of pettiness. Yeah it's annoying to me. Oh Renee you sold out the team to protect your daughter and didn't tell anyone. Yeah I get that no harm no foul there man. But Oliver, you spied on us because you thought someone compromised the team and were right? Not cool man that betrayed our trust. The "the whole team isn't treated the same" thing doesn't even make sense because 2/3rds of the people they are referring two are or have been Green Arrow and the third is the one setting up the spying stuff.
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# ? Jan 20, 2018 00:24 |
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What's a crogurt?
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# ? Jan 20, 2018 00:45 |
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WhyteRyce posted:Yeah it's annoying to me. Oh Renee you sold out the team to protect your daughter and didn't tell anyone. Yeah I get that no harm no foul there man. But Oliver, you spied on us because you thought someone compromised the team and were right? Not cool man that betrayed our trust. The "the whole team isn't treated the same" thing doesn't even make sense because 2/3rds of the people they are referring two are or have been Green Arrow and the third is the one setting up the spying stuff. And honestly, they've repeatedly emphasized that those three are the OG Team Arrow over the past several seasons. You can't really blame them for being at the very least skeptical of team members that Ollie has never entirely felt safe trusting or for having some innate sense of trust for each other over the newbies. Like, Rene very clearly recognizes that Ollie has a pretty solid argument when it comes to Ollie/William and Rene/his daughter and how Ollie would do the same if he was in Rene's position. Also the whole thing about Dinah fussing about the 24-hour thing. Like, you guys aren't on the team anymore. It's a good faith exercise on the part of Ollie to even mention the fact that Cayden James knew about you and you're going to yet again call them out for it? At the very least I do like what they're doing because it is a genuinely new dichotomy. None of the shows have really had another team that wants the same thing as our "heroes" do function at the same time so that will at the very least be interesting. And I do like the three of them so I do want them to do well, but as usual, it just seems like CW-drama for the sake of drama.
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# ? Jan 20, 2018 04:13 |
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Phenotype posted:What's a crogurt? Cursed Forgurt.
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# ? Jan 20, 2018 13:16 |
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It's days later and I'm still laughing that Cayden James's stolen T-Spheres had big glowing Cs on them. For Cayden.
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# ? Jan 20, 2018 13:49 |
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Zutaten posted:It's days later and I'm still laughing that Cayden James's stolen T-Spheres had big glowing Cs on them. For Cayden. Nothing is more important than good branding.
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# ? Jan 20, 2018 14:10 |
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twistedmentat posted:Cursed Forgurt. That's bad.
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# ? Jan 20, 2018 15:36 |
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DoctorWhat posted:That's bad. But you get your choice of topping I really hate vigilante. He's basically a terrible version of Deathstroke. James has the sane problem that Devoe has on Flash, he's outsmarting the heroes, but only because the heroes are being really dumb.
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# ? Jan 20, 2018 16:18 |
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twistedmentat posted:But you get your choice of topping That's good!
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# ? Jan 20, 2018 16:39 |
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twistedmentat posted:Cursed Forgurt. DoctorWhat posted:That's good! The toppings contain potassium benzoate.
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# ? Jan 20, 2018 21:45 |
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Rocksicles posted:The toppings contain potassium benzoate. * blank stares * Just caught up on the episode and a good way to set up the 2nd pat of the season. Though I agree Team Arrow and Oliver (for once) were in the right vs. the Outsiders. I am genuinely curious how they are going to solve this by the end of the season though.
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# ? Jan 21, 2018 00:14 |
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Mooseontheloose posted:Just caught up on the episode and a good way to set up the 2nd pat of the season. Though I agree Team Arrow and Oliver (for once) were in the right vs. the Outsiders. I am genuinely curious how they are going to solve this by the end of the season though. Mutual enemies, "they're too much for just the three of us to handle independently," "this is only a temporary arrangement until Cayden James is taken down," etc.
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# ? Jan 21, 2018 01:33 |
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He already launched the nuke Oliver. Oh no, it's aimed at the Arrow Cave! There's nothing I can do expect redirect it.
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# ? Jan 21, 2018 01:34 |
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Maybe it's just me but during the scene with just Felicity and Dig with the team it seemed like Dig wasn't actually looking at anyone. They kept cutting to close ups and his gaze always seemed slightly off.
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# ? Jan 21, 2018 02:55 |
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nine-gear crow posted:The way I rationalize it is that Person of Interest was actually an Arrowverse show and Cayden James is actually just another one of Finch’s many aliases and he just went off the loving rails after Reese and the Machine died on him. his defeat will be a call from gideon that says "can you hear me" and he will collapse weeping
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# ? Jan 21, 2018 06:24 |
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Aphrodite posted:He already launched the nuke Oliver. Oh no, it's aimed at the Arrow Cave! Somewhere the Not Outsiders are decorating their base when Rene says "Yo hoss what's that soun—"
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# ? Jan 21, 2018 06:25 |
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Chokes McGee posted:Somewhere the Not Outsiders are decorating their base when Rene says "Yo hoss what's that soun—" Ragman shows up in the nick of time. "Felicity, my ancestors' rags JUST recharged, c'mon!"
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# ? Jan 21, 2018 07:03 |
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Sir Potato posted:Whoever decided that Thea and Lance must always share scenes is a goddamn genius. They're both complete treasures and I never expected Thea to be the voice of most reason, nor did I expect their relationship to be the one I'm most interested in. Good job, Arrow writers. I want them to get together but now they're doing the "I think of you as my dad" thing so that's out.
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# ? Jan 22, 2018 03:48 |
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Tiggum posted:Was Ollie surprised that all the bad guys turned up? I thought that was his plan, but then he didn't seem remotely prepared for it. I thought the explosives were to blow all the bad guys up when they turned up at the warehouse and stood in one place, but obviously not.
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# ? Jan 23, 2018 20:14 |
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I wasn't totally clear on what Oliver's plans were post them realizing they were bugged, so for now I'm just going to consider that maybe its purposely confusing because he's trying to outsmart the bad guys with some game. But I dunno. Or he could just be flailing again.
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# ? Jan 23, 2018 22:42 |
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Ollie's always been good on his feet, but the long range planning thing was never his strongest asset.
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# ? Jan 23, 2018 23:24 |
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Xelkelvos posted:Ollie's always been good on his feet, but the long range planning thing was never his strongest asset. Makes sense. It matches his fighting-style: rarely shoots enemies from afar, always prefers kicking.
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# ? Jan 24, 2018 02:40 |
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4000 Dollar Suit posted:I want them to get together but now they're doing the "I think of you as my dad" thing so that's out. I had that vibe as well for a bit during this last episode, but the father/daughter relationship is probably a much better option, especially since they can tie it into Black Siren and all that. I imagine he'll forgo having BS as his "daughter" and choose Thea instead which will be nice. I don't even care if Thea comes on the team or not, just always have her be the wise sage they need advice from, Willa Holland plays it well.
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# ? Jan 24, 2018 03:32 |
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I get that it was meant to be touching but all I could do during Thea's "think of your other daughter" scene was imagine Lance going "Oh Sara's off in time or whatever ohhhh you meant yourself"
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# ? Jan 24, 2018 06:02 |
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Sir Potato posted:I had that vibe as well for a bit during this last episode, but the father/daughter relationship is probably a much better option, especially since they can tie it into Black Siren and all that. I imagine he'll forgo having BS as his "daughter" and choose Thea instead which will be nice. I don't even care if Thea comes on the team or not, just always have her be the wise sage they need advice from, Willa Holland plays it well. I'm on board with this, plus I loved her stint as ACTION CHIEF OF STAFF or whatever where she was following reporters by hopping across buildings like a ninja in a business dress. I'm still gonna be disappointed if she doesn't put on the hood at least once this season, though.
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# ? Jan 24, 2018 06:20 |
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Sir Potato posted:the father/daughter relationship is probably a much better option
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# ? Jan 24, 2018 07:53 |
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"Thea will become the best character on Arrow", is definitely something I didn't foresee in 2013.
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# ? Jan 24, 2018 08:12 |
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Thea/Lance shipping what the gently caress is wrong with you people
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# ? Jan 24, 2018 08:28 |
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GobiasIndustries posted:Thea/Lance shipping what the gently caress is wrong with you people Look, the Flash thread title is a literal screaming plea to get people to stop talking about incest. This ain't the first time goons started to talk about weird groady poo poo unsolicited w/r/t a CWverse show.
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# ? Jan 24, 2018 09:03 |
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TwoPair posted:I get that it was meant to be touching but all I could do during Thea's "think of your other daughter" scene was imagine Lance going Lance has been so laser focused on his daughters for the past 6 years that I assumed she was referring to either dead Laurel, or Sara. Referring to herself wasn't even a reading that crossed my mind until this post.
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# ? Jan 24, 2018 12:48 |
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Thea has only known Lance for like 2 years.
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# ? Jan 24, 2018 15:50 |
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Aphrodite posted:Thea has only known Lance for like 2 years. They've been vaguely aware of each other the whole time. Wasn't he there when she was arrested for drugged driving back in season 1?
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# ? Jan 24, 2018 17:12 |
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I mean even if he wasn't, Oliver dated Laurel for a long time (and fooled around with Sara) so Lance would presumably know the Queen family pretty well
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# ? Jan 24, 2018 18:29 |
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TwoPair posted:I mean even if he wasn't, Oliver dated Laurel for a long time (and fooled around with Sara) so Lance would presumably know the Queen family pretty well Yeah but your brother's girlfriend's dad is probably not someone you're close to.
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# ? Jan 24, 2018 18:30 |
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Wait... there's people who want Thea and Quentin to hook up? Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww...
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# ? Jan 24, 2018 23:20 |
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STAC Goat posted:Wait... there's people who want Thea and Quentin to hook up? Amusingly, Legends of Tomorrow, a show that has had multiple close calls with the Grandfather Paradox, including a main character who has tried to bang several other Arrowverse heroes’ mothers/grandmothers, still has the least creepiest fanbase on SA. Well done Team Legends!
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# ? Jan 24, 2018 23:49 |
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nine-gear crow posted:including a main character who has tried to bang several other Arrowverse heroes’ mothers/grandmothers, I feel like Nate is a goon.
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# ? Jan 24, 2018 23:52 |
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At this point it would be more interesting if the next step of Cayden James' elaborate plan involved Team Flash or Central City and he gets to play his "I've planned everything" cards against The Thunker to see who has the most
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# ? Jan 24, 2018 23:56 |
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STAC Goat posted:Wait... there's people who want Thea and Quentin to hook up? Oh, dear, I definitely don't want them to get together, but it seemed like they could have gone that route. I'm sure the CW has done worse. I'm super glad they didn't go that route cause, like I said, their father/daughter relationship is the best on the show.
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# ? Jan 25, 2018 00:20 |