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The penalty for sending more was that you had to sit through up to 12 unskippable voice clips, which actively made me deploy as few blades as I could. Of course they fixed that as soon as I finish the game.
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Taikuri posted:God drat, I've been sending blades to 1+ hour missions with all available suggested skills, and never actually bothered checking if they give better return for investment, just assumed that to be the case. IcePhoenix posted:Longer missions give more trust IcePhoenix has it nailed. It's important to know that for the rare blades (or anyone you really care about their trust level) merc missions are the wrong way to go about trust. Item pouches are the better way to do that. So, it's generally better to do the shortest missions available, which will always be Ursula's if you have her. And there appears to be no penalty for sending 6 on every mission - that's what I did at the end and very quickly banged out like 10 blades worth of affinity tree nodes. And as someone else said, the suggested skills just reduce the mission timer. YOu can get Urusula's 10 minute mission down to 4 minutes if you hit both of them on one of them (I think it's which ever one has "Focus" as a suggested skill. This let me level up Wulfric super quickly, as well as the 3-4 blades who tagged along with him and Ursula.
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Yeah, I use rare blades on merc missions to help fill out their tree after I've unlocked the full thing, but not to actually build their trust. It's also worth noting that when I say the longer missions give more trust we're talking like 100 more, maybe. I think I might have popped a blade up to level four affinity from base once? I know I've had one go from level one to level three more than a few times. IcePhoenix fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Jan 24, 2018 |
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Ytlaya posted:
That was me, and I was mistaken. My apologies!
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PJOmega posted:That was me, and I was mistaken. My apologies! Yeah, I'll note that what I wrote above about merc missions and affinity trees was only for the rare blades. I don't pay attention to the other ones outside of what I need for Salvaging and occasionally Agronomy (and the earlier merc missions to level up merc level or get items). Although I did start looking for Orb Master recently I guess.
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Taear posted:Just a general one maybe, one that you can say "This generic blade has Botany" and etc. Best bet is more on Addam's identity. IcePhoenix posted:IMO the only thing they really needed to do to fix the gacha is make the legendary cores that you get from chests (I think there are three of them in the game?) into something with a 100% drop rate on rare blades. Then put a bunch of them in the chest you can unlock after beating Ophion in the postgame so people can fill out the rest of their collection at that point. There's a very easy fix that could solve the whole thing; A post-game vendor with the remaining Rare Blades. That way you still get to  on who and when you get most of them, but you can still clean up whoever's missing easily.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Best bet is more on Addam's identity. Money is so easy to come by that you might as well just hand them all over at that point.
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Personally, I would keep the gacha system for common blades, and make random rare blades available throughout the story as sidequest rewards (give them their own unique core type, place them as sidequest rewards, story rewards, one-time drops from uniques, etc.). That way you both keep the randomness of each playthrough, and ensure that players can get all the blades by playing through the content. This does rely on Japanese developers not putting bullshit grinds as a gating mechanism on the last rare blade though, which isn't exactly something that I have much confidence in.
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Dirk the Average posted:Personally, I would keep the gacha system for common blades, and make random rare blades available throughout the story as sidequest rewards (give them their own unique core type, place them as sidequest rewards, story rewards, one-time drops from uniques, etc.). I would not even use the system at all then?
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They should've just made them Pokemon
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The drawbacks of the gacha system vastly outweigh the benefits as seen in game, all of which are minor and extremely subjective. The main reason to have a gacha system, for developers anyway, don't even apply because there's no actual MTX store. Thank goodness. As it stands it's just cargo culting mobage. Even Destiny 2 has a lootbox for "literally any exotic you don't already have" to fill collections and that game's a mess of consumer unfriendly decisions.
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I'd been fine with the gacha if it wasn't for the overdrive crap and the fact that the AI isn't good at multi-rolling making a dps on your healer blade a liability certainly early game while things are rough.
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Spoilers for something midway through chapter 7: When the party is discussing how Zeke, Rex, and Nia all have some deeper connection to their blades/drivers, Morag's reason for declining something similar (asking if it would leave a scar?) seemed odd and out of character to me. Is this just a case of odd translation or something?
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Not really. One thing about Morag that comes up during some heart to hearts is thats she's actually rather vain.
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So I've hit chapter 4. Is there a way of farming Rare core crystals? I'm kinda bummed because the only rare blades I have are Wind or Earth based which is super boring when it comes to team strats. So I kinda just want to farm out a bunch so I can play around with actual options.
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chumbler posted:Spoilers for something midway through chapter 7: When the party is discussing how Zeke, Rex, and Nia all have some deeper connection to their blades/drivers, Morag's reason for declining something similar (asking if it would leave a scar?) seemed odd and out of character to me. Is this just a case of odd translation or something? From what I remember she just didn't want to do it for the sake of doing it. Sure that shows a bond, but everyone else did it out of necessity, not as some kind of fashion accessory.
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MatteusTheCorrupt posted:Not really. One thing about Morag that comes up during some heart to hearts is thats she's actually rather vain. Also scar or no scar, taking out your own heart or whatever is kind of an extreme measure to begin with.
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The scar is when she realizes she shouldn't be jealous of the extremes that pyra and rex exist as.
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Natural 20 posted:So I've hit chapter 4. Not really in Chapter 4. Rare core crystals don't mean rare blades though. Boost your luck and use some common crystals, you're likely to get a few rares that way!
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chumbler posted:Spoilers for something midway through chapter 7: When the party is discussing how Zeke, Rex, and Nia all have some deeper connection to their blades/drivers, Morag's reason for declining something similar (asking if it would leave a scar?) seemed odd and out of character to me. Is this just a case of odd translation or something? It was just idle thinking and conversation. Morag was just noticing how everyone else (Tora and Poppi included) are something different than the average Blade/Driver pairing, while she and Brighid are ironically the odd ones out by being a purely normal pairing.
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Plus Rex/Pyra and Zeke/Pandoria are romantic relationships, while Morag/Brigid isn't.
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Konstantin posted:Plus Rex/Pyra and Zeke/Pandoria are romantic relationships, while Morag/Brigid isn't. Brighid is totally in love with Mòrag though
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Calaveron posted:Brighid is totally in love with Mòrag though Does that ever come up? I always figured she had a thing for Aegaeon, considering he's usually what she talks about.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Does that ever come up? I always figured she had a thing for Aegaeon, considering he's usually what she talks about. I'm being hyperbolic but she is pretty open about her not wanting to live on after Morag dies even though that would wipe her memory clean
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Calaveron posted:I'm being hyperbolic but she is pretty open about her not wanting to live on after Morag dies even though that would wipe her memory clean Ehh, that's really just general camaraderie. I get where you're coming from, but all the Blades are like that.
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Calaveron posted:I'm being hyperbolic but she is pretty open about her not wanting to live on after Morag dies even though that would wipe her memory clean She has also kept a journal for centuries as a means of preserving her memories. The lady just doesn't like the whole "you lose your memory when you go back to your Core Crystal" thing in general.
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I just got to chapter 4 and want to start opening my cores. Who should I open them with. Or rather what is the strategy to not get a rare blade stranded on a person I don't want it on? Can I just pick Nia and open everything with her and move them later? Or should I wait longer to start a core opening fest? Second question, the non master classes, are they worthwhile? I been stacking atk on Rex, and Healers on Nia, and I'm stuck in the old school "This is my tank, this is my healer, this is my dps". So I have not played with the mixed classes. I'm worried about getting to a fight with a sub par healer or DPS and not being able to clear it. I don't think Tora will ever be anything but a tank for me, cause I find when I try a mixed tank like the 4th character in chapter 3, I couldn't ever get good positioning for the back attacks cause the mobs would just bounce aggro all over the place.
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Kilazar posted:I just got to chapter 4 and want to start opening my cores. Who should I open them with. Or rather what is the strategy to not get a rare blade stranded on a person I don't want it on? Can I just pick Nia and open everything with her and move them later? Or should I wait longer to start a core opening fest? You only get like 3 of the the move blade items for 95% of the game. I would wait until you get the 5th party member before you go too crazy with core opening especially because there are spoiler reasons about 75% of the way through the game that you don't want too many on Rex/Nia. Also almost everyone one of my endgame blades was blades you get from side quests or story so I would find a decent list of where to get them from because its a fair number.
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socialsecurity posted:You only get like 3 of the the move blade items for 95% of the game. I would wait until you get the 5th party member before you go too crazy with core opening especially because there are spoiler reasons about 75% of the way through the game that you don't want too many on Rex/Nia. Also almost everyone one of my endgame blades was blades you get from side quests or story so I would find a decent list of where to get them from because its a fair number. When counting chars does big guy with Roc count as 4? or does he not count since he died? Just want to make sure that the next char I get is indeed 5. Additionally will 5 be my primary blade opener for core rare hunting?
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Kilazar posted:When counting chars does big guy with Roc count as 4? or does he not count since he died? Just want to make sure that the next char I get is indeed 5. Next will be 5 and yes they are in most end game parties and a good choice to pop cores on.
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Kilazar posted:When counting chars does big guy with Roc count as 4? or does he not count since he died? Just want to make sure that the next char I get is indeed 5. No, he does not count. Four is someone else. That said, you'll get five not too long afterwards.
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You guys know hiding who the party members is pretty pointless when the official publically-released artwork outs them entirely, right? Zeke's even on the eShop splash page.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:You guys know hiding who the party members is pretty pointless when the official publically-released artwork outs them entirely, right? But they're from behind and then being there doesn't mean they're a party member. Just because you don't care doesn't mean other people don't. I had no idea, for sure.
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Taear posted:But they're from behind and then being there doesn't mean they're a party member. Just because you don't care doesn't mean other people don't. I had no idea, for sure. It's bad cargo-culting from the original game, because hiding them has none of the significance that Seven does in the original. If the game had a physical manual, they'd all have a paragraph description apiece with artwork. The game is also about as subtle as a brick as to who your potential pool of party members is. It'd be like saying "don't tell me Haru's a party member in Persona 5" when she's right on the cover.
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The final character in Xenoblade was also like 80% into the game. Morgan joins at barely 50%, when the story starts up with a purpose.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:It's bad cargo-culting from the original game, because hiding them has none of the significance that Seven does in the original. If the game had a physical manual, they'd all have a paragraph description apiece with artwork. The game is also about as subtle as a brick as to who your potential pool of party members is. I'd never have guessed 5 was who they were. I assumed that they'd be a team rocket style thing hassling us through the whole game.
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Tae posted:The final character in Xenoblade was also like 80% into the game. Morgan joins at barely 50%, when the story starts up with a purpose. Morag's also pretty obviously working to a moral code from the get-go. She's not out to get the Aegis for her own nefarious plans, or the glory of Mor Ardain, she just really doesn't want a repeat of the Aegis War. Taear posted:I'd never have guessed 5 was who they were. I assumed that they'd be a team rocket style thing hassling us through the whole game. He is, and given the game's limited recurring cast it's pretty obviously headed towards Zeke joining up for some reason or other, because he's sure as hell not an actual threat. You're also making it worse by concealing the party members, because you've definitively stated there are five of them, and "four" is a character that does not fit Vandham's description. Wonder what that openly implies... 
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Who's the best person to bond Vess to? Also, is it possible to get more than one of the unique blades? As in if I pull the stupid polar bear and child blade can I also get her on Rex, or is it one and done, must user an Overdrive to bond to another person?
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Konstantin posted:Plus Rex/Pyra and Zeke/Pandoria are romantic relationships, while Morag/Brigid isn't. Wrong 
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Louisgod posted:Who's the best person to bond Vess to? Never use an overdrive to bond a blade to Rex. Not sure if we should go into why but I’d recommend against it
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