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so long magnus, you always tried real hard and were a pretty ice skater
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4 points in 44 games, no wonder Boucher wanted him The Dirty Burger fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Jan 26, 2018 |
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Friendly Lurker posted:Only by name I bet. Wasn't that a guy who posts here?
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It's Jawknee, and the original quote was harsher than 'crappy'.
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JoelJoel posted:I really don't get buffalo. I haven't been following them closely enough for the last few years but on paper they seem to have a really solid core of young forwards, Lehner never seemed terrible to me, and I guess the d is pretty suspect, but I have a hard time figuring how their just loving awful this year. A perfect storm of unbelievably underperforming forwards, a defense corps that can't stay healthy and isn't even that good when they are healthy, and two extremely inconsistent goalies. The last dozen or so games (excluding the Dallas game) they've been playing significantly better but still losing. Eichel has gotten over his early slump and is a PPG player right now. Kane was brilliant early on but is in a bit of a rut right now. They aren't getting much secondary scoring and it took like 40 games before a defenseman scored a goal. These last three games have been an anomaly, as they are playing opposite to how they were earlier, for example Lehner is standing on his head, the D has been great and they are scoring tons of goals. I don't expect it to last but I won't complain if it does!
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Matt Zerella posted:So was Rangers Sharks a fun game to watch or was it the gong show it looks like it was? It was fun to watch the Ranger score but lovely to watch them gently caress up repeatedly and play stupid D e: Hayes made a huge difference for the Rangers on offense but maybe the Sharks are just really poo poo defensively Levitate fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Jan 26, 2018 |
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bizarre deformity posted:Wasn't that a guy who posts here? Yes, he told us the story first
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ElwoodCuse posted:Yes, he told us the story first Like a year before the story was published even.
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Paajarvi is an ideal 4th liner in today's NHL, so I'm sure Ottawa will be putting him on the 1st or 2nd line.
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Mike_V posted:Paajarvi is an ideal 4th liner in today's NHL, so I'm sure Ottawa will be putting him on the 1st or 2nd line. Ya, especially after they trade Hoffman or Stone for a marginal prospect and *squinting at the fine print of the completed trade* a "blurst" round pick in the 2091 draft
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bizarre deformity posted:A perfect storm of unbelievably underperforming forwards, a defense corps that can't stay healthy and isn't even that good when they are healthy, and two extremely inconsistent goalies. I guess bogosian just died, so things probably going to not get better.
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Furnaceface posted:Also Duclair might be... okay?
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Levitate posted:It was fun to watch the Ranger score but lovely to watch them gently caress up repeatedly and play stupid D I think the Sharks are supposed to be pretty good defensively this year. Maybe it was just a bad game.
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https://twitter.com/kne_14/status/957001263027294209 Now..... if the Islanders got McDonagh.....They'd still be horrid on defense. I'm not opposed to the Rangers selling wholesale. A rebuild done right has to be better than dragging a rotting roster out year after year with one more overpaid "missing piece" that will not help.
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I think a rangers fire sale would be fine but it won't matter unless you also Fire av
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He's 30 and I would guess this is as high as his value is going to be. If the team is trying to get younger, get picks, get prospects, it's not a terrible idea. I think his contract is up in 2019 so 
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JawKnee posted:they're for serious taking calls on Zucc? 
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Wee man should be kept and made captain because he's just the best. And would be a very nice break from boring as poo poo expressionless dullard run we've had since Drury.
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Also off-topic, how does this man not have a job yet? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1umjn9m_Rc
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JawKnee posted:off-topic: why has no one drafted Brayden Burke? Size and “character”
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Rangers should trade Lundqvist while he still has some value / do him a favor and get him to a contender. mostly joking Similar to this person, I also initially thought the Preds game yesterday was a home game, but I didn't fly to Nashville for it https://www.sbnation.com/nhl/2018/1/26/16935446/nashville-predators-fan-away-game-mistake-twitter
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Thufir posted:Rangers should trade Lundqvist while he still has some value / do him a favor and get him to a contender. mostly joking Even if he wanted to leave... is there any team out there that can shell out 8.5mil for the next 3 seasons for him? The Rangers would have to eat a lot of salary for that to work out
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JawKnee posted:off-topic: why has no one drafted Brayden Burke? When he got traded from the Hurricanes last year the GM made some not so thinly veiled comments about him "not making good decisions away from the rink" and totally washed his hands of him. So basically he showed up to practice hungover a couple times like any teenager on earth and probably wasn't super apologetic and you know if you piss off one old white dude in hockey you're blacklisted by the rest for life. Plus he's one of those good but not amazing junior players that isn't going to really translate to a scoring role in the NHL and he sure as hell isn't going to be a checker as a pro. He'll sign a PTO with an AHL team next year, but I imagine his career will shift overseas pretty quickly.
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Angry Asian posted:Even if he wanted to leave... is there any team out there that can shell out 8.5mil for the next 3 seasons for him? The Rangers would have to eat a lot of salary for that to work out Probably not any team he would want to go to. Like, Buffalo?
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While it sucks to see some favorite players on the trading block, it also helps that they have some younger players ready to step into their roles - Buchnevich for Zuccarello, and Skjei for McDonagh. Those are also two really good players with a year left on really cheap contracts, so they should fetch a huge return. Rumored returns are: McDonagh: W. Nylander + 1st round pick + prospect Zuccarello: ??? Nash: 1st round pick Grabner: 1st round pick Holden: 3rd or 4th round pick Desharnais: 4th or 5th round pick The thought of the Rangers potentially ending up with a top 15 pick and four more firsts is pretty good.
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I've seen that mentioned in a few places. BSB had this to say about it: "Say the Rangers got William Nylander or Mitch Marner from the Maple Leafs along with a first- or second-round pick – they’re instantly adding a potentially elite-level forward and a high pick to help them in the draft. (Editor’s Note: Since this will probably cause a ton of strife from outside fans, I am basing the Leafs return for McDonagh on a loose package of what the Rangers gave for Yandle. I privately reached out to two respected Leafs writers about the above and both saw it as a fair ask)." https://www.blueshirtbanter.com/2018/1/22/16905318/ryan-mcdonaghs-rumored-trade-is-the-most-important-event-in-jeff-gortons-tenure
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Brodeurs Nanny posted:You think the Leafs would deal Nylander, a first, and a prospect for Mac?? ....MacKinnon, right?
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Rotten Cookies posted:He's 30 and I would guess this is as high as his value is going to be. If the team is trying to get younger, get picks, get prospects, it's not a terrible idea. I think his contract is up in 2019 so Yeah basically if the view is that this team isn't going to take a step forward then it makes sense to sell on guys like Nash, Zucc, etc. McDonagh...man I think they'll regret it if they trade him because he's severely underrated and it could be many many years until they find a defenseman as good as he is no matter how many draft picks they get, but they're also in a spot where he's up for a new contract and he's probably going to get $7 mill + or something on a contract that takes him to his mid 30's. Zodijackylite posted:While it sucks to see some favorite players on the trading block, it also helps that they have some younger players ready to step into their roles - Buchnevich for Zuccarello, and Skjei for McDonagh. Those are also two really good players with a year left on really cheap contracts, so they should fetch a huge return. Rumored returns are: I think Buch can be better than Zucc eventually, but Skjei's never going to be as good as McDonagh IMO, and they don't exactly have any other real studs waiting to jump into the NHL. You might get an "OK trending towards blah" defense with guys like Graves and Pionk called up, maybe they take some steps in the NHL and improve, but no one that's going to jump in and be a go to guy back there. Brodeurs Nanny posted:You think the Leafs would deal Nylander, a first, and a prospect for Mac?? I think the asking price of a young and good forward, a high pick, and some prospect isn't crazy for McDonagh with a year left on his contract. Whether the Leafs would do that deal or Nylander is too much of a good young forward is up for debate
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nylander is way further along than duclair was... it's a fair asking price but i don't think it's a fair trade
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That seems like a lot for a 30 year-old, even if he is precisely what they need, but who knows. The Leafs have two other elite young forwards aside from Nylander, but they might want to deal JVR/Kadri instead. If Nylander went the other way, I'd be surprised if it wasn't straight-up, considering Nylander's age.
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if they traded him this year he'd be 29 when next season started, not 30. For what it's worth...but I think a big part might rest on whether the Leafs think they could make the jump to a contender in the next year by acquiring him and maybe some other pieces, if the price is right.
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Levitate posted:I think Buch can be better than Zucc eventually, but Skjei's never going to be as good as McDonagh IMO, and they don't exactly have any other real studs waiting to jump into the NHL. You might get an "OK trending towards blah" defense with guys like Graves and Pionk called up, maybe they take some steps in the NHL and improve, but no one that's going to jump in and be a go to guy back there. I agree on that, Skjei isn't going to be McDonagh, even though he's really good. Buchnevich is on pace for 52 points while getting the least ES ice time, <12m/game, of any regular player other than Carey and Nieves. He also boasts the lowest goals-against/60 other than Staal (!) and Nieves. I'm pretty apprehensive towards pretty much all of the Rangers defensive futures - I don't think there's a first pairing guy in the system. They have a lot of RHD with offensive potential, but as we've seen with Shattenkirk, these guys thrive when they're not on the first pairing. Shattenkirk anchors the second pair, DeAngelo or Pionk ends up on the third pair, but I'm not sure there's room for all three of them on the roster, unless Tony D makes some magic with Skjei on a top pairing. Beyond that, Sproul has a bit of NHL experience but seems to be replacement level.
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If NYR dealt those guys, would they be the first team to engage in the kind of pragmatic rebuild (ditching your mid-age guys before their salary outweighs their worth and because they’ll be older/beat up by the time the team is actually competitive) that only exists in theoretical discussions? It’s kind of interesting because more teams could do this but it basically never happens, largely because GMs remain convinced they’re one piece away or because they don’t want to risk pissing off the fans.
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