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gary oldmans diary posted:if the sun had an atmosphere that reached just almost to the earth then you yeah you would only have to decelerate a little to get into that and then you would inevitably get sucked down into the sun (youre thinking about how things work on earth) The sun has a massive radius though (I assume this is what the other goon was referring to). Generally the calculations are done treating the sun as a point mass and neglecting its radius because it is easier. Even factoring in the sun's radius the amount of energy required to send stuff out is less than into the sun. The other wrinkle would be allowing for gravity assists which can substantially reduce the energy requirement for either option.
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let it mellow posted:wasn’t there some early buttcoiner who was going to become god through guitar and butts? He also loved riding his motorbike on LSD.
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gary oldmans diary posted:if the sun had an atmosphere that reached just almost to the earth then you yeah you would only have to decelerate a little to get into that and then you would inevitably get sucked down into the sun (youre thinking about how things work on earth) I mean sort of, but consider that the sun is spitting out so much mass as solar wind you can use a literal sail to accelerate a satellite.
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Raldikuk posted:The sun has a massive radius though (I assume this is what the other goon was referring to). Generally the calculations are done treating the sun as a point mass and neglecting its radius because it is easier. Even factoring in the sun's radius the amount of energy required to send stuff out is less than into the sun. The sun is huge, but it's still relatively small compared to the distances being discussed (such as Earth to Sun). So he's right, diving into the sun doesn't mean adjusting your orbital velocity to 0 with infinite accuracy, merely very close to 0 with a very high degree of accuracy will suffice.
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I like the question asking him if he’s a soy boy and he says he’s into soy protein for exercise
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Thank you all for keeping this thread about orbital mechanics and not about filthy cryptocurrencies.
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:Remember Alpha Mayo proof: 
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TVsVeryOwn posted:Thank you all for keeping this thread about orbital mechanics and not about filthy cryptocurrencies. Eh I think it's still relevant, we were just talking about the bitcoin satellite
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TVsVeryOwn posted:Thank you all for keeping this thread about orbital mechanics and not about filthy cryptocurrencies. It’s all noise, I just skip 30 pages
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The recent posts in this thread have illustrated the cult-like, other-izing tendencies of bitcoiners. People making fun of bitcoin are at worst doing just that; they laugh at the scams, they laugh at the people who are gambling way more than they can afford to lose, and they laugh at how seriously bad the protocol is at doing its purported job. But from them I don't think that I've ever sensed ill will like the kind that regularly comes from the legit bitcoin followers, posters like AARO and ghosTTy, who seem to actually hate anyone who hasn't fully committed to the cult like they have.
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meanwhile we have this live feed from satoshi's inner sanctum https://i.imgur.com/x0qOjjF.mp4
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Raldikuk posted:The sun has a massive radius though
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jimmyjams posted:shitcoin  Today it is Saturday, January 27 - this is good for Bitcoin.
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QuarkJets posted:The recent posts in this thread have illustrated the cult-like, other-izing tendencies of bitcoiners. People making fun of bitcoin are at worst doing just that; they laugh at the scams, they laugh at the people who are gambling way more than they can afford to lose, and they laugh at how seriously bad the protocol is at doing its purported job. But from them I don't think that I've ever sensed ill will like the kind that regularly comes from the legit bitcoin followers, posters like AARO and ghosTTy, who seem to actually hate anyone who hasn't fully committed to the cult like they have. The hate is much stronger from the "nocoiners" compared to the bitcoiners. You're up there in the top 5. Just my 2cents from the outside looking in.
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the bitcoin bros on reddit are legit mad at being laughed at for years. here i think only ham sandwiches is really sour as you can see when he lets slip his persecuted portrayals of these threads pretty sure ghostty is doing another flavor of what comfy is doing. if anyone is lashing out at nocoiners in earnest they need to work on that because it looks like satire. who is aaro? as for laughing at bitcoin and bitcoinfolk -who in their right mind could blame someone for doing that? its one hilarity after another
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Aaro was getting real butthurt in the altcoin thread but I think in the end he said he sold most/all of his coins
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I refuse to play the NYT style "let's find out how Trump voters REALLY feel, maybe it is them who are right and us who are wrong??" game with Bitcoin. Bitcoin is dumb and you are dumb if you think it's good. Thank you and goodnight.
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Alpha Mayo posted:http://bit.ly/2GeeCGl 
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What is bitcoin at right now? Is it doing wel
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Fartbox posted:What is bitcoin at right now? Is it doing wel Better than ever now that the chief saboteur AlphaMayo has been dealt with
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Fartbox posted:What is bitcoin at right now? Is it doing wel It's basically been around $11-13K over the last couple of weeks.
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Inept posted:fake news XEM fine Update: XEM is now above where it was before news broke about $450 million being stolen. Theft only makes crypto stronger.
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gary oldmans diary posted:compared to earths orbit ok that shaves off 4 tenths of a percent. this changes everything Ya I agree it is tiny, which is why when this problem is given to physics students to solve point mass approximation is perfectly fine. The bigger game changer would be allowing gravity assists....But can the bitcoin satellite wait for the proper launch window and alignment? Probably not 
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zaurg posted:The hate is much stronger from the "nocoiners" compared to the bitcoiners. You're up there in the top 5. Just my 2cents from the outside looking in. I'm in complete disbelief. Can you find and provide an example where I've expressed hate toward someone simply for owning cryptocurrency?
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Raldikuk posted:Ya I agree it is tiny, which is why when this problem is given to physics students to solve point mass approximation is perfectly fine. The bigger game changer would be allowing gravity assists....But can the bitcoin satellite wait for the proper launch window and alignment? Probably not Also I'm 99% certain that when there was a reddit thread talking about it the bitcoin satellite people were adamantly against having fuel for orbital maneuvers. The argument was basically "that's expensive, the other satellites will just have to avoid us" Perfect libertarian argument
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QuarkJets posted:I'm in complete disbelief. Can you find and provide an example where I've expressed hate toward someone simply for owning cryptocurrency? QuarkJets posted:Moxxis my friend posting in this thread instead of moving to Hawaii and becoming a pro surfer is a bad life choice on your part. Arguably that applies to all of us but you could actually afford to do it so you should.
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When space libertarians become a thing I’m going to start a kickstarter to launch bricks into orbit.
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Moxxis Endowment posted:You told me that posting here was a "bad life choice". Pretty mean-spirited imho. I said that probably no one should be posting on these dead gay forums, but especially people who have enough money to be able to do whatever they want. I wasn't suggesting that we expel the people buying and selling cryptocurrencies
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QuarkJets posted:I said that probably no one should be posting on these dead gay forums, but especially people who have enough money to be able to do whatever they want. I wasn't suggesting that we expel the people buying and selling cryptocurrencies
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Moxxis Endowment posted:Lol 1.7 mil isn't anywhere enough money to do "whatever you want", especially when you're only in your late 20s. A condo in my city alone will eat nearly half that. You must be terribly bad with money. Which might explain your interest in bitcoins.
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