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Tired Moritz posted:we should kill rex because i have no clue what theyre posting about Hah that's how I feel about everyone posting about flavor stuff this game. I'm feeling a bit suss on TM - I know he's not typically a -y poster but he seems more hands-off than usual so far. That said, I'm still feeling my vote on Monathin until he at least responds to my case.
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Bifauxnen posted:I find it's more often a scum tell when he argues for something really stupid Haha that's alignment neutral for Quid said Murmur from her glass house
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# ? Jan 28, 2018 14:00 |
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Bifauxnen posted:cause I was already looking at Chic as a lurker anyway, so seeing her show up to still post hardly anything except a pre-emptive "boy it would sure be dumb to vote for lukers on D1 though hey" really rubbed me the wrong way. Throwing a vote down and having her go "HOW DARE YOU gently caress YOU" sure didn't help any haha I think this might be one of those cases where you stop and consider "if she were actually town and frustrated at being cased for not showing up on a weekend d1, is her reaction believable?" and I personally think it is. I'm not saying she's town (still null there) but lately I've been trying to believe people when they seem angry enough to tell others off and I'd prefer to avoid the game going in a more personal-attacks direction.
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# ? Jan 28, 2018 14:06 |
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Murmur Twin posted:I think this might be one of those cases where you stop and consider "if she were actually town and frustrated at being cased for not showing up on a weekend d1, is her reaction believable?" and I personally think it is. It's more the combination of that, and seeing her make the same "uhh what" reaction as me to Rex in realtime. But in both cases, couldn't find out till I got there. Quid seems a LOT harder to read his reactions, though. Like I could see some possibility that I just have my own interpretation of why he sounded suss, but it's just not true, so he's getting stuck now arguing for weird things to try and prove something to me and lash out in a counterattack, but it's all based on some quirk of wording and now he's all Quidding it up out of control. But.... I can also see that as his scum spam strategy where he just keeps talking and talking and layering it up until hopefully some of it sounds believable enough.
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# ? Jan 28, 2018 14:13 |
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i want to believe in chic for now b-minus tho umu
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# ? Jan 28, 2018 14:31 |
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MOD EDIT: THIS POST WAS LIES.
Natural 20 fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Jan 28, 2018 |
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50 pounds of bread posted:GRRRRAAAAAAGHHHHHHHH yikes
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# ? Jan 28, 2018 16:19 |
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Natural 20 posted:Hello friends. far be it from me to tell a mod how to mod but i think you need to take an updated look at post standings
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# ? Jan 28, 2018 16:20 |
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additionally there's no way 50 has made that many posts
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# ? Jan 28, 2018 16:23 |
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i cant believe i made so little posts tbh. im ashamed... this might be the first time I actually got warned for low content hold up, is bminus in this game or what
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# ? Jan 28, 2018 16:26 |
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Chic Trombone posted:additionally there's no way 50 has made that many posts Yeah he's made maybe 6 or 7 since the game started.
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# ? Jan 28, 2018 16:26 |
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:Yeah he's made maybe 6 or 7 since the game started. And zero with any content.
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# ? Jan 28, 2018 16:27 |
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yeah i'm honestly just confused at those standings in other news: after review, rex's scumbuddies would probably be coaching them more to post less uselessly, so i'm not as firm in that read as i was. i'm still suspicious of them, though i'll take a look at quid when i get the chance today
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# ? Jan 28, 2018 16:32 |
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no loving way am I giving bif a free kill on me so actually, that might be a reason why bif is posting so much because this case on quid feels like its on shaky ground
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# ? Jan 28, 2018 16:35 |
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actually i think i know what's up with those post listings now, Nat20 did you just look at the numbers and assume people would be in the same position re: names that they were at the beginning of the game?
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# ? Jan 28, 2018 16:36 |
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Tired Moritz posted:actually, that might be a reason why bif is posting so much not a fan of this take
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# ? Jan 28, 2018 16:37 |
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im not saying bif is scum/or she specifically want to shoot me (because theres no way for her to have any control over my posting numbers) im saying she just want that gun for strategic/lol reasons
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# ? Jan 28, 2018 16:40 |
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Chic Trombone posted:actually i think i know what's up with those post listings now, Nat20 did you just look at the numbers and assume people would be in the same position re: names that they were at the beginning of the game? Good chance something messed up with my lookup, I'll do a quick doublecheck now.
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# ? Jan 28, 2018 16:41 |
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An accurate list.
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# ? Jan 28, 2018 16:46 |
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##vote bminus wakey wakey its playhouse disney
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# ? Jan 28, 2018 16:48 |
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Tired Moritz posted:im not saying bif is scum/or she specifically want to shoot me (because theres no way for her to have any control over my posting numbers) That's not alignment indicative. A town player would want the gun in their own hands as much as scum would. Also, Bif is actually scumhunting/putting pressure on players.
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# ? Jan 28, 2018 16:48 |
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do you agree with bif's case though
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# ? Jan 28, 2018 16:52 |
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Tired Moritz posted:do you agree with bif's case though On who, Quid? I've got a town read on Bif and gulag, so my impression of the (light as it is) Quid push isn't a scum push. I need to look at Quid, but my impression is that town Quid pushes cases, good or bad, and scum Quid is more defensive/evasive. Chic seemed...aggressively defensive, and whether it's genuine or a little forced, it tends to be an effective scum tactic for many players.
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# ? Jan 28, 2018 16:58 |
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Quidthulhu posted:This is an awful loving vote on me. Really, after joke voting myself, any town member should be thinking twice about putting a vote on me. Quidthulhu posted:I like neither the Juchero or Mona cases. Quidthulhu posted:I originally voted Juchero because I thought his vote on me was kinda careless and pretty bad. Then I remembered he's real awkward in jokephase and decided it was more likely that he just wasn't thinking about it vs. deliberately trying to sneak a vote in on a turbo candidate or something. Quidthulhu posted:That’s not what I did at all. You said you couldn’t see how I was changing an opinion on Juchero and I clarified that I liked neither my original case or the current case. I also admitted that you were correct in saying that that interpretation wasn’t clear from my original statement, which was part of the reason why I clarified it in the first place. To me, this reads as someone who is overly critical of their own vote. I think Quid realized that his self-vote has nothing to do with his alignment, so his explanation for voting Juchero is pretty bad. A better reason would be that dropping a joke vote on a self-voting player and putting him at -4 is a pretty scummy thing to do. Quid wasn't thinking about whether Juchero was town or scum, rather he saw that Juchero's vote was bad so he dropped the right vote for bad reasons. The backtracking looks bad, but it's hard for me to tell whether he's being genuine or not. I feel like town Quid would modify his case and push it, rather than back off so quickly. Juchero's vote was pretty bad, even if Quid's reasoning was off. So yeah, we've got an evasive, defensive, conciliatory scum Quid. Some good (or even bad) casing with follow-through might change my mind, but for now ##vote Quid
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# ? Jan 28, 2018 17:14 |
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Tired Moritz posted:##vote bminus yeah yeah im here getting caught up. busy night last night.
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# ? Jan 28, 2018 17:44 |
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Chic Trombone posted:not a fan of this take lol seriously actually I forgot this game had lurker guns, hot drat I'd kind of like it if someone else got it so I I don't need to be the one responsible for shooting B-, but that's probably just useless wishful thinking
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# ? Jan 28, 2018 17:46 |
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Tired Moritz posted:im not saying bif is scum/or she specifically want to shoot me (because theres no way for her to have any control over my posting numbers) i mean it's not like they're posting white noise nonsense to up their postcount or anything so idk why you'd think they were specifically aiming for the lurker vig
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# ? Jan 28, 2018 17:53 |
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Bifauxnen posted:Even if you know Rex's alleged flavor, is that enough to think he's good? I've been thinking a lot about how these 14 roles could be assigned, and ideally there should be enough room for pure fakeclaims to avoid flavor solving. Bifauxnen posted:also y'all might wanna check if there's an "un" in front of that "confirmed" there I strongly agree with both of these posts. Part of the reason I haven't posted a lot (along with being in two mafia games, but that's on me) is that I've been trying to learn as much as I can about flavor because it seems like it absolutely is going to play a part in figuring out roles/alignments. For these reasons, I just wanna get my quick reads out there before I go back and carefully read the thread again. lean town: juchero bif gulag 50 pounds lean scum: tm quid neutral on everyone else for the moment
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# ? Jan 28, 2018 17:59 |
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Chic Trombone posted:i mean it's not like they're posting white noise nonsense to up their postcount or anything so idk why you'd think they were specifically aiming for the lurker vig i thought it was strange for someone to make 70+ posts in D1 but I remember that I was talking about bif in a game flavored with something she liked so nevermind still not personally convinced by the case on quid tbh
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# ? Jan 28, 2018 18:06 |
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:
this is my impression as well. He basically has played the whole game on defense ever since juchero's fourth vote.
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# ? Jan 28, 2018 18:08 |
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why do you townread 50 pounds
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# ? Jan 28, 2018 18:16 |
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Bifauxnen posted:lol seriously Wow I was unaware of the lurker gun thing, that's awesome.
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# ? Jan 28, 2018 18:24 |
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Tired Moritz posted:why do you townread 50 pounds I second this question
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# ? Jan 28, 2018 18:28 |
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I'm hoping that 50 is just trying some clever "best Mafia player ever" gambit and that he'll name the scumteam after a day of BLARGHing and not saying anything? I definitely lean closer to scum than town for the time being. That said, for those casing him for low game content, I'd argue Monathin has less - at least 50 softclaimed flavor and voted somewhere.
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# ? Jan 28, 2018 18:39 |
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Chic Trombone posted:I second this question Also, thirding this question.
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# ? Jan 28, 2018 18:40 |
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THINKING... HARD... ONLY... FIGHT... ONLY... PROTECT...
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# ? Jan 28, 2018 19:04 |
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y'know i know we're not supposed to make flavor arguments but i'm preeeeetty sure berserker is bad news?
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# ? Jan 28, 2018 19:28 |
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Bifauxnen posted:Quid, this is what I'm confused about rn: you say you made that post to clarify, but I don't see what it even is you needed to clarify. My original complaint was how you went from making such a strong case to saying you didn't like it. And now you're "clarifying" that... no, you didn't mean something totally different about criticizing someone else's case? It was true that you really don't like your own case after all? You actually don't need to correct me on that? This is untrue; Bif's entire thread of posting on poking me over this originally was grounded in "I don't get what you're saying, Quid, clarify it": Bifauxnen posted:Man, that sure is a 180, did the haiku change your mind that much? Bifauxnen posted:I forgot it was there, since I thought it was odd to go from the way you sounded when you voted, to "not liking the case". If you're just having second thoughts and feeling less sure of yourself in voting Juch, okay, that's one thing. But that doesn't seem to line up with you saying you don't like the case at all. Back when the case was first made you had those strong statements on why you thought Juch deserved your vote at that time. Bifauxnen posted:well that isnt very clear when all you say is you just dont like "the case" That second post in particular is basically coaching me into giving a correction on what I said. She's now turned her case around and grounded it in me...over explaining myself? ##vote Bif her casing is reading incredibly fake to me
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# ? Jan 28, 2018 19:28 |
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like maybe it's a 3p team or something but i'd prefer not to be smashed into goo
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# ? Jan 28, 2018 19:29 |
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Tired Moritz posted:why do you townread 50 pounds his posts, while containing mostly gibberish, appear to be in somewhat in alignment with my current interpretation of how flavor works in this game.
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