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A SWEATY FATBEARD posted:
But does it actually run the os at that speed? 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWKnLvqjquw Der8auer puts an EPYC into a Threadripper board.
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Prescription Combs posted:But does it actually run the os at that speed? You'd be surprised, but it does. 
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GAY 4 ORGANS
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SwissArmyDruid posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWKnLvqjquw dude is nuts, randomly taping off pads to narrow down the sense pin love him
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A SWEATY FATBEARD posted:You'd be surprised, but it does. Nice! 
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Jan 29, 2018 08:57
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Prescription Combs posted:Nice! What board are you running?
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redeyes posted:dude is nuts, randomly taping off pads to narrow down the sense pin Wouldn't take more than 10 or so tries to narrow it down if you just cut in half each time. That said, if you can get a TR 1950x to work in a workstation Epyc motherboard that has unborked IOMMU and ECC support, I could see them being pretty kickass for certain kinds of simulation work, the kind where the sim doesn't scale well past about 16-24 cores, so having tons of Ghz to throw at it would work nicely.
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Methylethylaldehyde posted:Wouldn't take more than 10 or so tries to narrow it down if you just cut in half each time. That said, if you can get a TR 1950x to work in a workstation Epyc motherboard that has unborked IOMMU and ECC support, I could see them being pretty kickass for certain kinds of simulation work, the kind where the sim doesn't scale well past about 16-24 cores, so having tons of Ghz to throw at it would work nicely. IOMMU and ECC work properly with TR. Pretty sure the IOMMU problem was a known issue with KVM. I've been toying with the idea of doing a virtualized Win 10 overtop KVM or whatever the latest and greatest is these days. Anyone have a link or two to some guides? What's the best VM to run on Linux these days for GPU(Nvidia)/Audio passthrough?
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Stanley Pain posted:IOMMU and ECC work properly with TR. Pretty sure the IOMMU problem was a known issue with KVM. Not really? Win 10 and Server 2012 won't boot if you have IOMMU enabled. I had to disable it to get it to do more than sit on the black loading screen. Perhaps they fixed it in recent BIOSes, I'll have to shut everything down and check again. ECC works great, and makes overclocking RAM super easy, since you can run the test while watching the system log for the ECC errors to report themselves.
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it's absolutely criminal that ecc isn't mandatory in 2018 yet under all specs.
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Mr Shiny Pants posted:I was kinda hoping for a Asrock motherboard. I did find another board but didn't feel it was worth mentioning because it'll come pre-stained from the factory in the form of the letters M, S and I in that order.
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Methylethylaldehyde posted:Not really? Win 10 and Server 2012 won't boot if you have IOMMU enabled. I had to disable it to get it to do more than sit on the black loading screen. Perhaps they fixed it in recent BIOSes, I'll have to shut everything down and check again. Blank screen is still probably a KVM issue as there are patches to the kernel + a userland program to re-connect the device if it disconnects the GPU, or a shutdown of the VM causes a problem with D0-D3 state transitions. I mean, it still could be a platform wide PCI-E problem. I remember the old NPT problem which turned out to be a KVM bug. Wouldn't be surprised if that's the case here as well. If your issue is the D0-D3 state bug where lspci -v shows FF as the header for the guest GPU https://www.reddit.com/r/VFIO/comments/7slj72/threadripper_reset_patch/ has your fix.
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Nono, I'm running Server 2016 as the hypervisor, and it really doesn't like it for some reason. Hyper-V is what work uses, and it's what I use because it works well enough for me, at least until now.
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Methylethylaldehyde posted:Nono, I'm running Server 2016 as the hypervisor, and it really doesn't like it for some reason. Hyper-V is what work uses, and it's what I use because it works well enough for me, at least until now. Ah, RIP I guess 
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Stanley Pain posted:Ah, Yep, I just wanna be able to feed my SAS controller and tape deck directly through to the VM, instead of needing this hilarious round robin of tape drive to tape redirector to isci target to VM side thing. But we shall see.
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Methylethylaldehyde posted:Yep, I just wanna be able to feed my SAS controller and tape deck directly through to the VM, instead of needing this hilarious round robin of tape drive to tape redirector to isci target to VM side thing. But we shall see. How many TB of Linux ISOs are you backing up now?  I snagged 8 x 10TB HDDs over black friday. 
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Stanley Pain posted:How many TB of Linux ISOs are you backing up now? Currently? Like 50TB-ish? Edit: I'm lusting hard after the new LTO-8 tapes. 12TB per tape.
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Oh, since we have a real-world example of it, if you wanted an example of how AMD could dodge the poison pill in their x86 license: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/29/vmw...ic-markets.html
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Oh, since we have a real-world example of it, if you wanted an example of how AMD could dodge the poison pill in their x86 license: a. reverse-mergers only work between a private company and a public one, so the private company would need to wealthy enough to buy AMD in a reverse merger, then subsequently buy Company X that you want to merge AMD with. b. the license agreement specifically defines by ownership of the company such that any entity owning more than 50% of the company constitutes a Change of Control. AMD had to get clever just to make that work with just the GloFo spinoff (by splitting GloFo's voting rights and assets differently), you'd need to be way more clever to go the other direction. the x86 license deal isn't impossible to evade, just fantastically expensive in legal bullshit.
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Zen+ to have meltown/spectre microcode patches out of box at launch. Zen2 will have fixes baked into uarch or what they call "hardened."
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Isn't Zen meltdown proof anyway?
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:Isn't Zen meltdown proof anyway? Yep, it's only Spectre that Zen is vulnerable to, and only somewhat as the mitigation of such a vulnerability apparently costs next to nothing, and well Spectre is harder to exploit to begin with. Also, earnings report dropped http://ir.amd.com/news-releases/news-release-details/amd-reports-fourth-quarter-and-annual-2017-financial-results They beat their expectations, second quarter of GAAP profitability in years, and it's the weakest quarter as well. Looking to see AMD break 100-150m in profitability soon.
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Is there a reason AMD didn't release 6 and 8 core desktop APUs? Small market?
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Khorne posted:Is there a reason AMD didn't release 6 and 8 core desktop APUs? Small market? The silicon only has one CCX, so 4 cores in the max. An 8 core + 11 Vega CUs APU would likely be a big chunk of silicon that would require a high price and high TDP, and then you run into the small market problem. How many people are willing to spend $400+ on an 8 core APU with mediocre built in graphics and lower clocks than the $300 variant without the GPU?
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Cygni posted:The silicon only has one CCX, so 4 cores in the max. An 8 core + 11 Vega CUs APU would likely be a big chunk of silicon that would require a high price and high TDP, and then you run into the small market problem. How many people are willing to spend $400+ on an 8 core APU with mediocre built in graphics and lower clocks than the $300 variant without the GPU?
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Trip Report: gently caress Windows Server 2016, and gently caress needing 1703 to get IOMMU to play nice with AMD. Server Core is the loving devil and god help anyone who has to use it outside of huge environments.
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Methylethylaldehyde posted:Trip Report: gently caress Windows Server 2016, and gently caress needing 1703 to get IOMMU to play nice with AMD. Server Core is the loving devil and god help anyone who has to use it outside of huge environments. Just use Linux and install Windows as a VM on KVM. Since server 2008R2, Windows server has become a shitshow in my opinion. ( 2012R2 is okay, but whoever thought it would be a good idea to have the 8.1 desktop on a server where you need to mouse in the left bottom corner in an RDP session to access options needs to be fired. )
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My sister has a coworker who apparently took out a loan for $12k this xmas to "invest". 
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Paul MaudDib posted:My sister has a coworker who apparently took out a loan for $12k this xmas to "invest". Invest in what? Property? Buttcoins? AMD stock?
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Buttcoins. Sorry, wrong thread, meant to post that in the crypto thread. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 11:29 on Feb 3, 2018 |
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Speaking of buttcoins: Using Threadripper to mine. https://www.hardocp.com/article/2018/02/01/threadripper_pays_for_itself_using_cryptocurrency_mining I have conflicting opinions. On the one hand, AMD sells through their silicon. On the other, allegedly, _AMD PITCHED THE ARTICLE PREMISE TO [H]_.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Speaking of buttcoins: Using Threadripper to mine. loving LOL If they can ramp up production? This owns. If not.....
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Anyone heard of these ASUS Crosshair issues with Ryzen before?
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Speaking of buttcoins: Using Threadripper to mine.
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ufarn posted:Anyone heard of these ASUS Crosshair issues with Ryzen before? Does he say which firmware he's running on/which ones hes tried? IIRC ASUS has pushed multiple beta and maybe even a release firmware update out with hilariously unsafe defaults (like 1.8v SOC!!!) They? or maybe another company also recently pushed out older fw with a new name. Every time you update fw it's important to double check voltages, they aren't the only company to have made the 1.8v soc mistake. Never saw anything official about this but it was supposedly the result of some sort of reference versioning mismatch from AMD Also, my 2x16 CL153000 Corsair LPX (SK Hynix) happily runs at 16/22/22/22/53 3200 with the latest fw on this AX370 Gaming 5. I was going way out of my way trying to lock something down with that ryzen timing calculator, turns out you can just turn XMP off, set the frequency to 3200, leave all of the timings to auto, and only adjust ProcODT/SOC/DRAM voltages (80/1.125/1.4) I have 4x8 CL163200 Corsair in my Monero box that I will swap out and try later, some people have gotten two of these to 3600. Was skeptical of the benefit, but jumping from 2933 to 3200 was good for 550 points on Firestrike Combined. Max framerates haven't changed all that much, but worst case minimums are ~7.5% higher. I feel like I said the exact same thing when I jumped from 2666 to 2933. I'm lowkey impressed they managed to get ram compatibility to this point only a year in I had originally chosen the Gaming 5 because it's like, one of 3 boards with a clock generator, but Gigabyte still hasn't given us access to it via firmware 
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Speaking of buttcoins: Using Threadripper to mine. I don't write shill tech review articles or like the pointless mining of crypto, but I'm sure someone here will try to justify buying an x399 system over an r7 based on this bridging the gap. You need to make ($600+$330-$270-$90) $630 dollars mining to bridge the gap. Not doing the math on that, but assuming stable anything from crypto is a bad bet and it'd take somewhere between 6 and 12 months at current rates. With these articles being printed, it's going to never pay off. Khorne fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Feb 3, 2018 |
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Dear amd please do a zen for graphics ie replace GCN wholesale with your new cash money nvidia needs a real competitor Thanks in advance
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