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Tobbs Gnawed posted:I had a gut scum read on MMT, but since she outed that I targeted her with my action I think she's probably town. also why would scum not do that, claim to get blocked somehow, should make it look like scum's targeting them, right? They'd know it came from town instead, but if town wants to come out and clarify that welp, all the better, now you spotted who did it. And roleblocking-type stuff isn't exactly the towniest power to come out with either, could get a mislunch on you if they're really lucky. yeah I really don't get your thought process here Now that you claimed your action you might as well claim your flavor too, hey?
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Chic Trombone posted:hey sal, who do you think are the bad guys. i read your post history and i can't find where you solidly share a scumread I am at work and phone posting. My top 3 are Prince, B- and 50. I'm also suspect of Juchero as well. I will re read d1 posts when I get home at 10pm CST. I'm not avoiding the question. Also I posted something yesterday while I was out with friends about scum reads SalTheBard posted:Gun to my head (and after doing quick skim of the thread). I think Jucheros quick flip on 50 was weird. I'm probably looking at this too meta but I would vote Quid over Bif. I have trouble with D1 reads but this is my gun to the head reads.
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Bifauxnen posted:also why would scum not do that, claim to get blocked somehow, should make it look like scum's targeting them, right? They'd know it came from town instead, but if town wants to come out and clarify that welp, all the better, now you spotted who did it. And roleblocking-type stuff isn't exactly the towniest power to come out with either, could get a mislunch on you if they're really lucky. Assassin, Kojirou. And it's not a block, it's a delay. Her action will still go off, it just won't resolve until N2. I'd expect scum to keep the fact they have an action hidden. Now if she gets heat she can't claim to have done nothing, and will have to explain who and why. My hope was to target a scummy player and delay an NK. If there were no NK it could implicate my target. As for it not being a super towny power, TM was a jugg vig. Unless someone's action is a repeatable kill, I think mostly scum would push a case based on a power role that looks weird. And if that's the case, my town flip will at least be informative.
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:Assassin, Kojirou. well, delaying an action by a night could easily be as good as a block. Like if she was a doc or watcher on Quid.  Interesting point though that she's outed doing something on D1 that's delayed till tonight... still seems like there could be a lot of wiggle room for explaining herself though, if it was anything scummy. I mean, we should be expecting nearly everyone to have actions anyway in role madness, so it's not like confessing this puts some big new fakeclaim burden on her all of a sudden.Quite willing to vote 50 with you, though. Let's see what all he's got to say.
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Bifauxnen posted:well, delaying an action by a night could easily be as good as a block. Like if she was a doc or watcher on Quid. I think it makes a lot more sense that MMT is town outing what could (I'll admit) easily be a scum ability. I certainly could be wrong, but scum, knowing the ability is in town's repertoire, would probably keep it to themselves since the ability is a little confusing and could be used to falsely clear scum.
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Murmur Twin posted:My case on Juchero is "he isn't hunting for scum". b-minus1 posted:I guess I don’t see how simply acknowledging the threat of a potential 3p without voting for them somehow translates to “not hunting for scum” Murmur Twin posted:Quote me his strongest scum read. b-minus1 posted:gotta admit that you're right, he doesn't appear to have one. I'm not a fan at all of b- focusing on the fact that I thought Juch was 3P hunting when the main meat of my case was that he's doing the classic scum "get overwhelmed by game, make excuses instead of cases". He literally acknowledges the point I'm trying to make, and then ignores it when he goes back to case me later. b-minus1 posted:MMT threw out an early "jokevote" for quid, then later voted for monathin, and finally kept her vote parked on Juchero for the remainder of the day. just getting a strange feeling reading her posts, overly friendly townie without committing to reads, except for that juchero vote. What's suspicious about a jokevote or making an early case on someone D1? Also, I feel like it's disingenuous to say "I parked by vote on Juchero for the remainder of the day". I made a case, he did nothing to prove me wrong, and when I went to sleep the only vote leader was Quid, who I thought was town. b-: what's your opinion of Juchero?
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Bifauxnen posted:cause I was already looking at Chic as a lurker anyway, so seeing her show up to still post hardly anything except a pre-emptive "boy it would sure be dumb to vote for lukers on D1 though hey" really rubbed me the wrong way. Throwing a vote down and having her go "HOW DARE YOU gently caress YOU" sure didn't help any haha Chic Trombone posted:also kind of a misrepresentation of why i was The Mad in the first place (i still think D1 lurker calls are I felt like Bif was going to start tunneling on you for not being a lurker / not around at the start of D1 and it was going to lead to unpleasantness in the thread, so I was trying to nudge her away from that with my post. It didn't really have much to do with you (other than thinking your frustration at being lurker cased d1 would be genuine no matter what your alignment is) quote:MMT why didn't you bring me up as scummy later in the day when it was clear i wouldn't start a fight or w/e you're claiming to have been worried about over it? It dawns on me that I was just assuming that people know this, but I work a graveyard shift and keep weird hours. I was asleep during the escalation of the Quid/Bif fight and subsequent push on TM - I didn't really have any sort of suspicion of you until I went back and re-read the day.
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Since I've already claimed, the dueling is flavor. My ability is to delay a player's action resolution by one night. MMT doesn't have anything to do with it apart from the fact that she was my target.
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:Since I've already claimed, the dueling is flavor. Can you explain why she was your target? Also, what would the danger have been of telling us your power last night? A one turn move delay isn't scary. It wouldn't have gotten you targeted. Do you think town could have given you a better guess at who to duel, if you'd chosen to confide in us? Wouldn't telling us have removed suspicion on you when Quid was pushing hard? What was your rationale?
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KhediveRex posted:Can you explain why she was your target? Ehhh I stand by my assertion that Quid's case was bullshit. It was largely based off him repeatedly saying that I knew Bif was town, when every post of mine regarding her alignment contained uncertainty. He also was only pushing players who went after him (Me and Bif), fluctuating between trying to convince Bif I was scum and truing to convince me Bif was scum. It was insane and annoying. Why the hell would I claim D1? I wasn't under any substantial pressure. As for claiming now, it's to save us from a day spent speculating about my power, whether it's a scum or town ability, and because I feel a lot better about MMT for claiming to be the target of it. Also, telegraphing my action is crazy. If I do pick scum, it helps them decide who does the NK etc. It doesn't help town at all. As an aside, I'm not 100% on MMT. If she's scum, it could be useful for her to announce her action was delayed (proving she didn't do the NK at least) while trying to out a town power role. I just think it would have been better for scum to keep quiet, so I lean town on her.
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:Why the hell would I claim D1? I wasn't under any substantial pressure. As for claiming now, it's to save us from a day spent speculating about my power, whether it's a scum or town ability, and because I feel a lot better about MMT for claiming to be the target of it. Alright, strategy wise that has merits and, anyway, to each their own. But why MMT? That still doesn't make sense to me.
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KhediveRex posted:Did she do something during the voting fiasco last night that made you suspicious? I don't remember her doing almost anything. And if that's the rationale, there were another four or five people you could have picked from who also weren't much active last night. No, it's just this general air of amicability that pings me. Like she's being overly friendly/conciliatory even when she's casing, and I'm more used to her (as town) pushing cases with a little more bite to them (whether they are good or bad). Her response to the night action makes me lean town on her, though. Claiming it is (I think) bad scum play, and MMT's scum game is largely characterized by good plays. She also claimed it fairly early after the day started suggesting she didn't discuss outing it with her scum team. If she were scum, I think it would have been an important topic of conversation.
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Also, I did pick her because she was mostly 7nder the radar. In my experience, players in that position are often chosen to perform the night kill.
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Juchero posted:i'm sad i wasn't around for deadline, things got wild i would like juchero to elaborate on how either of those flips is gonna mean poo poo. ddi you just really want to make a post.
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:Also, I did pick her because she was mostly 7nder the radar. In my experience, players in that position are often chosen to perform the night kill. This is the heart of what I'm not understanding. On a night where there was the threat of a cop being killed, you used your power to check out a gut read you developed long before any of the drama of day 1 came onto the scene. If I had had your power I'd have dueled someone who was involved with the deadline last night. Someone who was engineering after Quid came out as Cop. Someone who disappeared after Quid came out as Cop. Someone involved with the situation who seemed to have an agenda. Someone who might have been involved with scum's reaction to a claimed cop. You kept you're cool and hit the first person in the game you had been suspicious about. Like there were no more pressing issues to respond to. That's a strange reaction for town. On the other side of things if you were running interference for a NK, anyone you felt like hitting would be equally valid. ... There's less mystery in imagining that your scum than in imagining that your town. Basically. But I'd love to hear your side of it. Why was dueling MMT the best thing you could do to prevent the potential death of a cop?
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Lunchtime! Finally finished my look back at the Tired lunch train. If you don't wanna read all this crap, just skip to my next post where I will summarize my findings. But here's my work if you wanna check it. T-60 minutes Quid had not yet copclaimed, and is sitting at 5/8 votes. B- claims to believe that Quid is really just frustrated town, and throws a first vote on Tired for looking scummy the way he voted Quid then peaced out. (null read on this... before the cop claim, scum would have been more willing to throw votes around elsewhere for some townie cred when Quid flipped town) KhediveRex claims to also believe Quid is town, but doesn't case anybody else. He's still got that jokevote sitting on himself. (maybe I should at least leave him in the "undecided" category instead of assuming that weird post made him totally townie...) Prince unvotes from Chic, and answers her asking what people think about Tired. He doesn't seem to actually find Tired scummy, but would rather vote Tired over Quid. (hm, this is a bit hedgey? Could be scum who knows they're both town?) T-48 minutes Quid copclaims. Gulag: "i wish yoju had said "i am cop" at a point where it was maybe possible to not kill you." (this could be a scumpost, trying to sell the narrative that it's not possible to move the vote even after the copclaim. I still see Gulag as posting pretty townie otherwise, but this is now a spot on his previously clean record) KhediveRex reacts to the copclaim but doesn't move his vote off himself. (null read, just continues to be odd I guess) Chic seemingly agrees at first that moving the vote off Quid doesn't seem possible. B- expresses that it makes no sense to lynch a claimed cop, though. Chic then says that if everyone around moved to Tired, it might work. T-40 minutes Chic cast the second vote on Tired after calling out for everyone to try and make the move: Chic Trombone posted:gently caress it i'll try for it ##vote tired mortiz Chic Trombone posted:Votecount for Day 1 T-40 Minutes Right after this, Monathin made clear that he was still determined to vote Quid. (could always be scum not wanting to move, but his reasoning does sound sincere) Prince inquired a bit as to why Tired in particular should be the new target. (null read - town players not already suss on Tired themselves would indeed want to think this over before moving blindly) Sal claimed he wouldn't mind voting for TM instead of Quid, "if you think his cop claim is legit", but doesn't move his vote yet. (this move seems slightly scummy) I cast the next vote for Tired: Tired now has 3/8 votes, while my vote removed from Quid leaves him at 4/8. Gulag seemed to agree that Tired was worth voting for, but does not yet move his vote. Gulag sarcastically mentions plurality voting to underline how this plan is not likely to work. (this continues to look possibly scummy for Gulag, though a townie would also be concerned about a no-lunch) Quid then re-emphasizes how he believes he's truly the best lunch for the day, basically giving scum his blessing and all the excuse they need to stay on him. Scum should be wanting to dig in and make sure the Quid lunch goes through at this point instead of letting Tired take the lead. T-30 Minutes Prince casts the next vote for Tired, he is now at 4/8, TIED with Quid. (wow this is a big point in Prince's favor actually) Tired starts asking if he should claim, I say no cause I don't really think yet it's actually going to happen. SalTheBard posted:It's hard to take someone at face value claiming cop when they are about to be lynched. Honestly though this reminds me a lot of my last day of Shine where I was just loving annoyed. Sal's vote puts Tired in the lead, 5/8 votes compared to Quid at 4/8. (although Sal had sounded very hedgy before, this does seem to be a quite townie move here to make Tired the vote leader) Quid continues to insist he's the best dunk. T-24 minutes Tired claims as Saber the Strongman Vig, masoned with Chic. Chic confirms the masonry, saying that TM's low activity there is also part of why she's suss on TM. New votecount: Chic Trombone posted:Votecount for Day 1 T-22 minutes Quid self-votes, making the votes tied again. Both Quid and TM are at 5/8. Sal tells Quid to fight and not give up! Gulag: "if youre actually cop you could re-enter with your results and just, not do what happened today, or else die in the night." (Despite Gulag being around and present and posting through this whole countdown, and sounding like he doesn't want to lunch a cop either, and claiming before to be fine with voting TM, Gulag still hasn't moved his vote to Tired even in the period where TM took the lead. Next he says, "i can't switch to TM because quid is self-voting. what a world" what does that even mean? Who says he can't vote TM? Bringing TM from 5/8 to 6/8 votes might likely convince Quid to stop self-voting, and that would get TM to 7/8 votes, and if someone can't hammer then, we wouldn't have done it for Quid either. Hm, maybe I should reread Gulag from scratch...) T-17 minutes Prince votes for... Tobbs?? Seeming to want to agree with Quid's case? (yeah I don't know what to make of this one) KhediveRex casts a new vote for TM. Since Prince had just changed his vote, the votes remain tied at 5/8 each Quid says he'd be down to vote Tobbs, but Sal tries to help talk Prince out of this. Gulag also reacts with confusion. Prince claims he was trying to get Quid to engage, puts his vote back on TM. New total: Tired in the lead at 6/8, Quid at 5/8 T-12 minutes New votecount: (btw, Chic continuing to provide these counts as all this poo poo's going down, helping to show that the Tired lunch is possible, counts as a townie point in her favor, imo) Chic Trombone posted:Votecount for Day 1 T-11 minutes Quid is STILL insisting that "TM should be given the chance to continue playing" though, still giving scum an excuse to stay on him. Sal reacts to this by moving his vote back off Tired. Quid takes the lead again at 6/8, with TM at 5/8 (looks like a scummy move here but... if Sal is scum, why did he put Tired in the lead earlier? It's not like Quid wasn't making the exact same arguments before to still vote for him. Sal's reasoning could be sincere...) Gulag tells Sal to switch his vote back to TM?! Sal unvotes in confusion. Gulag comes in with a new vote on TM. New total: TM in the lead again at 6/8, Quid at 4/8 (Maybe Gulag was just holding out till now since he knew he was around all till deadline, and could be the hammer vote on Tired once things were actually possible... and till then he'd stay on Quid so things didn't keep shuffling madly back and forth? ok I'm still gonna reread Gulag just in case, to be thorough, but my earlier fears are gone) T-8 minutes 50lbs shows up to say "LITTLE GIRL! I WILL PROTECT!" but doesn't vote for nobody, his vote is still parked on me from ages ago ffs. (scummy scum scum scum scum) New vote count: Chic Trombone posted:Votecount for Day 1 T-7 minutes Monathin casts another vote for TM. TM now at 7/8 with Quid at 4/8 (helpful, but no longer worth townie points I don't think. With Quid dropped all the way down to 4/8, he was no longer the one to vote to avoid a no-lunch) Quid drops the hammer just as Sal also moves his vote back. The deed is done.
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FINDINGS: Chic's casting a vote for TM doesn't look like a throwaway at a worthless cause for town cred after all. She continued to post updates to show the progress and seemed fully committed to seeing it through. Reading her as fairly townie for this. KhediveRex also seems to have been helping. Prince a bit hedgey? But he helped the Tired vote get off the ground. Still very undecided on him, but this helps me view him more favorably. Sal looking not as bad as I originally thought. He often sounded hedgey, but he helped Tired take the lead at a critical point. He has been downgraded from "quite scummy" to "undecided" on my Lumpenlist! Monathin still hard to gauge... his objection to moving his vote off Quid could be sincere. Gulag scared me for a sec when I was re-reading this, and I'm gonna re-read him just to be careful, but seems to be a false alarm. 50lbs is super scum. ##vote 50lbs
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GulagDolls posted:hmm...I think the prince may be bad. I have been feeling that same way.
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Prince of Space's Reaction List Day 2 50 pounds of bread - was unable to protect the little girl last night. What is he going to do about it? Still waiting on responses, Berserker. Currently scummy. b-minus1 - suspects SaltheBard and Monathin for their votes on Quidthulhu, but it feels like they might just be throwing out hot-topic names out there. Null-to-scummy. Bifauxnen - makes effortposts and pokes at people until they get upset. Acting very pro-town-oriented in that respect. Leaning town. Chic Trombone - Added a lot of pressure in getting a lunch going on her mason buddy Tired Moritz Day 1. Null-to-scummy. GulagDolls - Bloodthirsty and reactionary. Leaning town despite personal misgivings (I don't like your avatar's face). Juchero - Is he coasting or is he afraid to be noticed? We're still waiting to hear more from Juchero. Leaning scum. KhediveRex - After his "town slip" earlier, he has been helpful and wrote up a nice lumpenlist. Good guy. Monathin - Posts sincerely, just got hung up on bad play and policy voting on Quidthulhu yesterday. Categorized as "I want to believe" town (the most dangerous kind of town). Murmur Twin - Thinks oddly and makes strange cases. Might just be wrong about some things. Null read total. Prince of Space - Null, self-read SalTheBard - Slightly lurky. Gets upset when poked. Would like to see his upcoming reads before passing too much judgement. Tobbs Gnawed - Assassin/duelist claim. Vouches for Murmur Twin and Bifauxnen. Leaning Town due to flavor claims. e: Ah, I refreshed and I have much to read.
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GulagDolls posted:hmm...I think the prince may be bad. Please explain how - you mean bad at playing bad, or bad alignment bad? Because I can agree to being the first one (at times), but I will fight with you over the second one.
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I was hedgy because I believed both of their claims and didn't want to lose them.
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i was going to quote your original list as similarly bad so thank you for providing a new one. actually i will.Prince of Space posted:Prince of Space's Day 1 reaction summaries in summation -nothing -nothing -knows the lo-....ok <_< -scummy for trying to get out of jokephase?? - i'm town for no reason - scummy for NOT getting out jokephase -/???????? -nothing -nothing -nothing -scum 4 no content -nothing -nothing at best there is no point to these lists and at worse you are trying to fake reactions. i dont even understand 1/3 of these. d2 is the same thing. i still don't get why i'm town.
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Prince of Space posted:Well, before the Texas/Mexico meta chat goes away, I'm think I'm gonna throw down a ##vote Tobbs Gnawed because I never got to punch him in the Soldiers game. This feels to me like soft bussing. Obviously there was still a lot of Shine V meta discussion going on, but to vote for him just seems weird to me. Prince of Space posted:Fine then - And then look just like that he removes his vote. He was told to "watch out! because 14 votes don't leave room for error!" Prince of Space posted:I also don't have a clue what's going on in regard to the source material, so please don't expect any roleplay from me on this one! Prince of Space posted:Doesn't Rider normally want to protect Shinji? I thought Shinji and Rider had a Master/Servant relationship. Prince of Space posted:I do feel like people who know the source material have a leg up on what to expect in this game. Flavor discussion that seems out of place due to waffling between not knowing, and knowing the flavor. After this he engages me in conversation about DBZ mafia. There is a lot of posts from Prince that have nothing to do with the actual game. After this we get into a weird back and forth regarding Haikus. I won't bother posting it all but Princes vote flows freely from Gulag to Juchero, then proceeds to unvote Juchero. Prince of Space posted:Don't die, jokephase! We need our people to live, and to not be killed! After all... Tries to keep jokephase going to prevent actual game chat from starting. Prince of Space posted:I was just wondering what Chic Trombone's thoughts were on anime, video games, and erotic novels. I feel like pushing a lynch on lurkers (considering that we were still in D1 and shortly out of jokephase) I think calling out Lurkers is incredibly scummy. Prince of Space posted:So are you suggesting that it's the NORM for Servant/Master pairs to be in a masonry this game? This is very troubling... such Role Madness indeed! I know that Prince is new(?) but these types of comments seem to have someone feeding them to him. Maybe it's his masonry buddy, maybe it's scumbro, who the gently caress knows but these are not comments that I would expect to see from a new player. Prince of Space posted:I think that the four most "serious" posters in this game (Quidthulhu, Tobbs Gnawed, Murmur Twin, Bifauxnen) should be left alone for today. They've been posting enough semi-productive stuff that they can be caught by it later. Again these seem like comments fed from a masonry or scumdoc. I think it's safe to assume that Tobbs, MT or Bif is scum. I'm leaning most towards TG but that is neither here nor there. Prince of Space posted:
Totally just blows off Quids case of TG. Also Quid called Tobbs a "cutie" during Jokephase when everything was going nuts. I don't think a flip in attitude like that is off base. But if TG is scum this is scum protecting scum. Now this sequence is loving strange: Calls me out for being a lurker (when I wasn't lurking at all, but actively had posted throughout D1) and votes for me When I respond he changes his vote to Chic Trombone But then changes his vote again after Chic proposes that TM is scum But THEN with 31 minutes left before lynch votes for TG?! What the gently caress. It's almost like he was trying to force a no lynch, when called out on it by Gulag Prince says: Prince of Space posted:I have no clue ! I don't want a no-lynch either! Well then why the gently caress would you vote a 3rd part when we have 31 minutes left to lynch and the only two people with any sort of vote on them are TM and Quid at that point? Finally settles on voting TM This is all just Day 1. Prince I'm sure people are happy to have new blood. I have never played scum so I always feel at a disadvantage when I ask myself "Does this seem like something I would do?" I feel like you are newbie scum trying to pretend to be newbie town and it's just not working for me. ##Vote Prince of Space
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also knowing the flavor of a game will literally never impact whether someone is scum or town so idk why that's a point on your list i mean i'm pretty solid in my bif as town read but that's just nonsensical tbh
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GulagDolls posted:d2 is the same thing. i still don't get why i'm town. Would you rather I think you're scum? I can reread your posts as if you're scum and come back with plenty of reasons to vote for you, if you'd prefer.
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I'm glad that others are kind of feeling the same way I am and that I'm not crazy.
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hmmm well sal's post didn't make much sense to me and he might be crazy.
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Prince of Space posted:Would you rather I think you're scum? I can reread your posts as if you're scum and come back with plenty of reasons to vote for you, if you'd prefer. i would rather you provide actual reasoning either way
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GulagDolls posted:hmmm well sal's post didn't make much sense to me and he might be crazy. What can I clarify for you? (This is a serious post)
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is lumpenlisting the big Thing now btw i feel like a mafia oldtimer in my day we made fun of his lists *shakes cane*
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Jan 30, 2018 05:33
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i'd actually like you to expand your read of me, Prince. why do you think me pushing someone i thought was scum is scummy, seemingly only bc they were my mason buddy?
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Jan 30, 2018 05:36
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Chic Trombone posted:is lumpenlisting the big Thing now btw i looked myself up on votefinder and my first game was in 2011 my god, i am a mafia oldtimer (i was 18 holy poo poo)
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quote:There is a lot of posts from Prince that have nothing to do with the actual game. this is true quote:Tries to keep jokephase going to prevent actual game chat from starting. i disagree with the implication that scum would just be going "hey nobody start playing" quote:I know that Prince is new(?) but these types of comments seem to have someone feeding them to him. Maybe it's his masonry buddy, maybe it's scumbro, who the gently caress knows but these are not comments that I would expect to see from a new player. why, because it has the word rolefishing in it? quote:Again these seem like comments fed from a masonry or scumdoc. I think it's safe to assume that Tobbs, MT or Bif is scum. I'm leaning most towards TG but that is neither here nor there. i don't see a scum motivation for changing votes like that near deadline
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SalTheBard posted:Well then why the gently caress would you vote a 3rd part when we have 31 minutes left to lynch and the only two people with any sort of vote on them are TM and Quid at that point? You're getting a little overheated over a game of mafia here. I took my vote off of Tired Moritz for a minute back there, because I believed in him and I believed Quid and I didn't want either of them to get lunched. I don't see why that's so hard to understand. I would much rather have "the duelist" be removed from town play than "the cop" or "the strongman vigilante." You're trying to make a mountain out of a molehill, and I think that's because you're scum, SaltheBard. You're not so new at this game that you'd never have had a scum role, not by now. This must be your first scum-game! ##vote SaltheBard
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