|
Mark Salling (Puck from Glee) has killed himself. He was outed as a pedophile last year and his career was over. http://www.tmz.com/2018/01/30/mark-salling-dead-suicide-dies/
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2018 19:41
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 16, 2024 19:13 |
|
|
Rhyno posted:Mark Salling (Puck from Glee) has killed himself. He was outed as a pedophile last year and his career was over. Awesome.  Now if only some more of the creeps in the industry would do this. How much longer do you think LCK has?(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2018 19:51
|
|
|
Rhyno posted:Mark Salling (Puck from Glee) has killed himself. He was outed as a pedophile last year and his career was over. Hm. Suicide is always tragic to an extent, but it’s hard to extend sympathy here. One of the provisions of his sentencing was that he would be forced to pay out, like, half a mil to any victim of the pornography he possessed if they submitted a formal request. I wonder how that will work with his death. I’m assuming it would come out of his estate, but would his family be liable for that payout should it run dry? It might seem like a random thing to bring up, but I remember seeing it as the smallest possible silver lining for the victims in the situation. It would be tragic if that got taken off the table for them.
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2018 19:57
|
|
|
Al Borland Corp. posted:Sometimes a foot is just a foot. Yeah, this stuff is straight up witch hunting. It's functionally identical to the intent behind that picture of the producer and Michelle Obama from earlier in the thread. It's proof of nothing except that out of context you make words and images mean anything you like. Quite apart from the fact that kids programmes have had jokes aimed to go over the head of the target demographic since time immemorial, I'm not convinced any of that stuff would be in the least bit creepy without a framing device having been hung about it.
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2018 20:16
|
|
|
Calling for fans of the show to write stuff on their kid feet and send him pictures feels...not great.
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2018 20:43
|
|
|
Lovely Joe Stalin you seem incredibly invested in the idea that this man with a giant flashing neon sign over his head saying "WARNING: CHILDFUCKER" who has been the subject of rumors about childfucking for literally a decade plus, and who has been involved in some incredibly sketchy situations for which the easiest possible missing puzzle piece is "childfucking," should not be investigated for possible childfucking
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2018 20:53
|
|
|
Coffee And Pie posted:Calling for fans of the show to write stuff on their kid feet and send him pictures feels...not great. That is peculiar, I'll grant you that. LORD OF BOOTY posted:Lovely Joe Stalin you seem incredibly invested in the idea that this man with a giant flashing neon sign over his head saying "WARNING: CHILDFUCKER" who has been the subject of rumors about childfucking for literally a decade plus, and who has been involved in some incredibly sketchy situations for which the easiest possible missing puzzle piece is "childfucking," should not be investigated for possible childfucking You know what, this doesn't deserve a reply beyond "gently caress off". Lovely Joe Stalin fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Jan 30, 2018 |
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2018 20:57
|
|
|
This thread has gone, uh, places.
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2018 21:02
|
|
|
It's a great example of exactly what myself and others warned about.
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2018 21:09
|
|
|
Coffee And Pie posted:Calling for fans of the show to write stuff on their kid feet and send him pictures feels...not great. Yeah, but who's to say? We all do that.
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2018 21:10
|
|
|
I'd actually stopped reading before it got down to his tweets because I was bored of scrolling through context-free clips, I'll hold my hands up to that. Asking for pictures of feet to be sent in is hard to see in a context other than pretty loving creepy.
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2018 21:15
|
|
|
I don't know if the guy from Head of the Class is a pedophile and I feel like there should be a credible accusation before he gets labeled as once. And I don't see feet as sexual so I kind of don't know how to determine whether contextless pictures of feet are sexual in nature. Like I'm open to the idea that they might be sexual to a foot fetishist but without some context that I recognize as sexual I don't see how we tell the difference between sexual feet and just feet. All that being said, that twitter thread made me click it off grossed out and worry that someone was looking over my shoulder because there's absolutely way too many gifs of an underage Ariana Grande being overtly sexual on camera. That poo poo's differently creepy.
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2018 21:42
|
|
|
So apparently Mark Salling was found hanging from a tree, just a short distance from a Little League field. That paints an especially dark picture of the circumstances, given what he was convicted of.
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2018 21:44
|
|
|
Is every Glee cast member a giant weirdo with tons of issues? Seems like that
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2018 21:51
|
|
|
esperterra posted:This thread has gone, uh, places. A Stalin . . who's against witch hunting rich creeps??
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2018 21:54
|
|
|
Feet are funny, they make for easy kid-friendly jokes. They're awkward, weird looking, bad-smelling hands that you walk on. I don't think it means any more than that.
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2018 21:58
|
|
|
Lovely Joe Stalin posted:Quite apart from that, Franco seems sufficiently far up his own arse that he'd say anything that he thought made him sound artistic and interesting. I've hated Franco ever since rumors spread that he cheated his way through those degrees. Who is insecure enough to get degrees JUST for bragging rights?
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2018 22:04
|
|
|
Also I just want to say that, despite the huge amounts of CP found on his computer and that he pled guilty, it's a drat shame Salling killed himself. Suicide is loving terrible and I feel huge sympathy for his family. Only thing I can really say about it is I hope that's a sign he was regretting his actions. But he should have just done his time and tried to rehabilitate rather than taking his own life. Goddamn tragic when people go to that extreme imo.
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2018 22:46
|
|
|
esperterra posted:Only thing I can really say about it is I hope that's a sign he was regretting his actions. But he should have just done his time and tried to rehabilitate rather than taking his own life. Goddamn tragic when people go to that extreme imo.
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2018 22:49
|
|
|
You never know. I try not to dig too deep into conspiracy theories when it comes to celebrity deaths, especially ones that appear to be a suicide, but anusthing is possible.
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2018 22:51
|
|
|
esperterra posted:You never know. I try not to dig too deep into conspiracy theories when it comes to celebrity deaths, especially ones that appear to be a suicide, but anusthing is possible. Whoah there. 
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2018 22:58
|
|
|
esperterra posted:But he should have just done his time and tried to rehabilitate rather than taking his own life. Goddamn tragic when people go to that extreme imo. Sure, but is there really any recourse for someone who will be on the sex offender registry as a pedophile for life? Not that I think all pedophiles convicted of a crime should just kill themselves, but that's a mark that doesn't just go away after you do your time/make restitution to society in the internet age. The days of fully paying one's debt and being given a second chance are over for people like the Glee dude, much less the Victor Salva types.
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2018 23:03
|
|
|
Anusthing is Possible will be the title of the first porn star biography to win an Oscar.
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2018 23:03
|
|
|
Origami Dali posted:Sure, but is there really any recourse for someone who will be on the sex offender registry as a pedophile for life? Not that I think all pedophiles convicted of a crime should just kill themselves, but that's a mark that doesn't just go away after you do your time/make restitution to society in the internet age. The days of fully paying one's debt and being given a second chance are over for people like the Glee dude, much less the Victor Salva types. I guess it depends tbh, on whether he actually assaulted any kids or was just getting it out via porn. Both are loving terrible and harmful to the kids involved, but one's still worse than the other. His life would be haunted by the registry forever, even moreso since he's a public figure. But I like to believe anyone can change for the better.
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2018 23:12
|
|
|
Remulak posted:Either that or he was gonna name names. Are you suggesting he was murdered? I don't think there's really a precedent for the world of child porn engaging in assassinations.
|
|
#
?
Jan 31, 2018 02:48
|
|
|
Remulak posted:Either that or he was gonna name names. i do not know a whole lot about the nefarious underworld of child pornography but if I remember correctly from the articles I read he wasn't one of those guys who goes onto the dark web and trades videos, i think he was the kind of guy who used his fame/handsomeness to get underage girls to send him stuff. This doesn't change the severity of what he did but it makes it way less likely that there's some grand conspiracy surrounding his death. edit: i cannot imagine that life is very kind to someone arrested for child porn. you're in jail at the mercy for violent guys who have just enough of a code of ethics to beat the poo poo out of diddlers, then if you get out you're on a list and no amount of explaining/redemption is gonna make most people trust you ever again. Being famous might actually work against him in this particular case because it's gonna be harder to blend into society without people figuring out what he did very quickly. source: read the novel Little Children DC Murderverse fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Jan 31, 2018 |
|
#
?
Jan 31, 2018 02:52
|
|
|
Lovely Joe Stalin posted:It's a great example of exactly what myself and others warned about. It's actually a pretty great example of how people get away with it for so long. I mean, pictures of kids feet is about as creepy as you can get short of actual child porn, and there's still folk here going 'it's only 4chan.'
|
|
#
?
Jan 31, 2018 02:55
|
|
|
Yes, please tell me the context where a teenage Ariana Grande getting sprayed with water during a car wash episode is not, at the very least, creepy as hell.
|
|
#
?
Jan 31, 2018 03:27
|
|
|
DC Murderverse posted:i do not know a whole lot about the nefarious underworld of child pornography but if I remember correctly from the articles I read he wasn't one of those guys who goes onto the dark web and trades videos, i think he was the kind of guy who used his fame/handsomeness to get underage girls to send him stuff. This doesn't change the severity of what he did but it makes it way less likely that there's some grand conspiracy surrounding his death. Yes, let's feel sorry for pedophiles. gently caress off. I'm glad the child molester is dead.
|
|
#
?
Jan 31, 2018 04:10
|
|
|
Snowman_McK posted:It's actually a pretty great example of how people get away with it for so long. I mean, pictures of kids feet is about as creepy as you can get short of actual child porn, and there's still folk here going 'it's only 4chan.' You know full well that what I meant was that you went from loudly and proudly proclaiming the obvious and absolute guilt of one person to insinuating that someone else had suspect motives because they didn't fall in line with you. And Lord of Booty did the same. Not because I disagreed with you about the need to end abuse, or that it exists in Hollywood. Not because I disagreed that people claiming to be victims should have their claim treated as credible and acted upon. I didn't even disagree with you that this guy might be what it's claimed he is. I simply disagreed with with taking physical ugliness, anonymous rumours, and fragmentary 'evidence' removed from original context but deliberately framed in the most negative way possible as proof that some nebulous 'investigation' and punishment are required. 'Evidence' which in one instance has already been completely debunked in just the last few pages, and an investigation that doesn't involve the police or, as far as I can tell, anyone more reputable than Mr Flibble the haunted hand puppet. For that you both turned on me. And that has been my point all along. That once you throw away reason and caution and any requirement for proof, even insufficient zealousness can be cause for suspicion. Which is how innocent people get hurt and why you need to be cautious with this poo poo. What the pair of you did to me was intellectually cheap, and morally pretty loving vile, but it was also entirely predictable.
|
|
#
?
Jan 31, 2018 04:30
|
|
|
Lovely Joe Stalin posted:You know full well that what I meant was that you went from loudly and proudly proclaiming the obvious and absolute guilt of one person to insinuating that someone else had suspect motives because they didn't fall in line with you. And Lord of Booty did the same. This didn't actually happen at all. It was in this thread, so feel free to pull up the posts where I did this.
|
|
#
?
Jan 31, 2018 04:35
|
|
|
Lovely Joe Stalin posted:You know full well that what I meant was that you went from loudly and proudly proclaiming the obvious and absolute guilt of one person to insinuating that someone else had suspect motives because they didn't fall in line with you. And Lord of Booty did the same. dude i was calling you a loving troll, not a pedo, chill you're choosing to very loudly die on a kind of insane hill, that makes me think you're trying to get people riled up
|
|
#
?
Jan 31, 2018 05:11
|
|
|
like if i think you have any suspect motives, those suspect motives are "make this thread very bad" not "protect another diddler"
|
|
#
?
Jan 31, 2018 05:12
|
|
|
Lovely Joe Stalin posted:You know full well that what I meant was that you went from loudly and proudly proclaiming the obvious and absolute guilt of one person to insinuating that someone else had suspect motives because they didn't fall in line with you. And Lord of Booty did the same. You know how else innocent people get hurt?
|
|
#
?
Jan 31, 2018 05:17
|
|
|
#NotMyStalin
|
|
#
?
Jan 31, 2018 05:51
|
|
|
Vincent posted:Yes, let's feel sorry for pedophiles. i'm not saying i feel sorry for him (there is a sort of tragic element to that compulsion, though actually acting on it really removes a lot of the potential for redemption), i'm explaining why someone in that position might pick suicide as a way out rather than having to live with that
|
|
#
?
Jan 31, 2018 07:42
|
|
|
Man, this thread is really playing out exactly like the Democrats threads in D&D.
|
|
#
?
Jan 31, 2018 07:49
|
|
|
esperterra posted:Also I just want to say that, despite the huge amounts of CP found on his computer and that he pled guilty, it's a drat shame Salling killed himself. Suicide is loving terrible and I feel huge sympathy for his family. Yeah, that’s pretty much my opinion on these things. I agree with you in that I prefer to think people are capable of improving themselves if they genuinely want to, regardless of how often that actually happens. I figure the world is cruel and hateful enough as it is, I don’t see it as a bad thing to have a shred of empathy for another person, even if they may not really deserve it. On some level I feel genuinely sorry for a lot of people mentioned in this thread, not in the sense that I think they’re victims or have been treated unfairly, but their lives as a whole are just really depressing for me to think about.
|
|
#
?
Jan 31, 2018 08:03
|
|
|
Lovely Joe Stalin posted:That once you throw away reason Lovely Joe Stalin posted:I'd actually stopped reading before it got down to his tweets because I was bored of scrolling through context-free clips Interesting, tell me more how we need to calmly and rationally evaluate the facts on these subjects and not jump to conclusions?
|
|
#
?
Jan 31, 2018 12:19
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 16, 2024 19:13 |
|
|
Remember this thread is not the #metoo movement and and nobody posting here is trying to champion some grand political scheme. Talking about suspected pedophiles (ephebophiles to be fair) in Hollywood on an SA CD thread does not in any way detract from what’s happening in Hollywood/on Twitter. Personally I think if Dan is not guilty then at some level someone else must have pulled An Open Secret with young girls in Hollywood and it’s only a matter of time before we find out. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
|
|
#
?
Jan 31, 2018 15:33
|
|
