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Vegas was also gifted their #1D Nate Schmidt who should have been protected by Washington but wasn't because heaven forbid they lose Tom Wilson. Also still lolling at the fact that Schmidt was healthy scratched in the playoffs in favor of Brooks Orpik and Karl loving Alzner.
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ThinkTank posted:Losing Will Karlsson was a forgiveable decision by Columbus. He was 24 at the time and had managed a career high 9 goals. The most he'd put up at ANY level was 15 in 55 with HV71. The odds of him jumping to even 20 goals (let alone 27 in 49 to date) were astronomically low. Protecting Jenner, Wennberg and Saad who'd had actual good seasons at the NHL level was a fairly obvious decision. The Knights taking Karlsson barely raised a blip at the time, it's just in retrospect that one looks bad. They were kind of in a bad situation having to protect Dubi and Hartnell (who was then immediately bought out) too.
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Mind_Taker posted:Vegas was also gifted their #1D Nate Schmidt who should have been protected by Washington but wasn't because heaven forbid they lose Tom Wilson. The Capitals wanted to try the bad defensemen strategy that worked so well for the Pens last year. I thought Schmidt was the best Caps' dman for most of that series last year and I was surprised they'd just let him go like that.
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Meanwhile look at the absolute trash that Nashville, Columbus, Minnesota, etc got to pick from
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Mind_Taker posted:Vegas was also gifted their #1D Nate Schmidt who should have been protected by Washington but wasn't because heaven forbid they lose Tom Wilson. Also the Bruins didn't protect Colin Miller, who has been great for Vegas, plus the whole losing Subban on waivers thing happened.
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Jamwad Hilder posted:Also the Bruins didn't protect Colin Miller, who has been great for Vegas, plus the whole losing Subban on waivers thing happened. The Canucks are so bad the best player the Knights could select from them was Luca Sbisa.
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https://twitter.com/IneffectiveMath/status/958729746485010432 jesus christ
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iospace posted:1. Find teams that protected only four forwards to protect four D. Steal one of their forwards then (ex: James Neal). gently caress drafts just steal players
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The Predators have scheduled a press conference an hour from now to announce that Mike Fisher is coming out of retirement.
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Apparently Mike Fisher might be un-retiring lol
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Francois Beauchemin is no longer the final torchbearer for the 1998 draft
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I know Weber's out, but the Habs looked really really bad last night.
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Welcome to the "defense will be even better than last year" experience.
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Suspicious posted:Welcome to the "defense will be even better than last year" experience. *some Habs fans actually believe this*
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Ginette Reno posted:Speaking of Vegas steals what about Columbus who lost their best center to Vegas? Imagine how much better the Jackets would look with Karlsson? Instead their center depth is kinda trash. I don't see how their centers line up against Crosby/Malkin or Backstrom/Kuznetsov and win a series. Bob would have to go into jesus mode. They're just too outmatched down the middle. William Karlsson wasn't the CBJ's best center. That title went to his BFF Wennberg, who put up 60 last year. Dubi and Gagner were ahead of him on the depth chart, too. Wild Bill looked to be a bottom six center who was an excellent defensive center (typically on the PK with Calvert), but didn't seem to have much more. Truth be told, I was more worried about losing Calvert at the time because he can slot in basically in any situation. Part of the reason they were willing to expose Wild Bill was they knew Dubois was coming and PLD, while not putting up Wild Bill numbers, is having a solid rookie season. There's also the possibility of them picking up a center to help the depth, but Dubois-Wennberg-Dubinsky-Sedlak's something to build on. ThinkTank posted:Losing Will Karlsson was a forgiveable decision by Columbus. He was 24 at the time and had managed a career high 9 goals. The most he'd put up at ANY level was 15 in 55 with HV71. The odds of him jumping to even 20 goals (let alone 27 in 49 to date) were astronomically low. Protecting Jenner, Wennberg and Saad who'd had actual good seasons at the NHL level was a fairly obvious decision. The Knights taking Karlsson barely raised a blip at the time, it's just in retrospect that one looks bad. It was also either this or lose one of the three players they explicitly protected as conditions: -Josh Anderson, who seemed to have more upside and has 15 goals having matched really well with Dubois and Panarin on the top line. -JMFJ who, while not great, had a solid season on the second pair with Savard (he's slipped a bit this year but the D corps looks worse without him), or: -Korpisalo, a potential starting goalie who Porty has (I think rightly) evaluated will either be the starting goalie or worth a first round pick in a couple years. (e- In retrospect, the Korpisalo protection was even more important because it allowed Forsberg to be traded along with Saad in the Panarin deal. I do that trade again 7 days a week.) Thufir posted:They were kind of in a bad situation having to protect Dubi and Hartnell (who was then immediately bought out) too. Dubinsky is what he is (Top 6 center who's typically good for 10-20 a year and also is looked to as a leader on the team and one of the only "gritty" players left) with not that great of a contract. It sounds to me like there was still some hope they could trade Hartnell and exposing him would wreck his trade value, so they protected him. CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Jan 31, 2018 |
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Thufir posted:Apparently Mike Fisher might be un-retiring lol With Johansen, Turris, Bonino, Sissions and Jarnkrow, is there even really room for him? Edit: Flyers lines for tonight: Giroux - Couturier - Konecny Voracek - Patrick - Simmonds Weal - Filppula - Raffl Goulbourne - Laughton - Lehtera I don’t whether to be more excited for Konencny and Patrick being on the top two lines, or frustrated that Lehtera is playing. I still don’t know who the hell Goulbourne is. Duckman2008 fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Jan 31, 2018 |
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Duckman2008 posted:With Johansen, Turris, Bonino, Sissions and Jarnkrow, is there even really room for him? If he can get his legs caught up to NHL speed he's probably a better #4 than Sissons or Jarnkrok and I guess both of them can play wing. Probably bad news for Aberg and/or Salomaki though.
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There's also the possibility that Forsberg's injury is worse than originally reported and they'll shuttle someone out to RW.
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Report I read say the Preds actually reached out to Fisher weeks ago, so they must not be okay with someone's production.
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https://twitter.com/JapersRink/status/958699358622502913 Russian Machine Never Breaks
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Chad Sexington posted:https://twitter.com/JapersRink/status/958699358622502913 He and Kessel have proven that the secret to a long, fruitful career is to not bother playing defence
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ThinkTank posted:He and Kessel have proven that the secret to a long, fruitful career is to not bother playing defence In Kessel's case avoiding any and all corner battles also has more than a little to do with it. I love Kessel but he's hilarious to watch in the corners. The minute anyone is remotely close to checking him that puck is off his stick. He takes contact only rarely. Far different from Malkin and Crosby who seem to enjoy having two guys on their back while they just hold onto the puck and make a play. Kessel's style works though and keeps him in a lot of games so no complaints. Ovechkin of course doesn't avoid contact but he's just a god damned tank who can shrug anyone off.
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Jamwad Hilder posted:
Let's not forget Tony Deeeeeez nuts on the Rangers
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Ginette Reno posted:In Kessel's case avoiding any and all corner battles also has more than a little to do with it. I love Kessel but he's hilarious to watch in the corners. The minute anyone is remotely close to checking him that puck is off his stick. He takes contact only rarely. Far different from Malkin and Crosby who seem to enjoy having two guys on their back while they just hold onto the puck and make a play. It's funny though because I swear when it's the playoffs or some other random game that he decides is important you can instantly tell because he'll actually seriously battle for pucks.
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ThinkTank posted:He and Kessel have proven that the secret to a long, fruitful career is to not bother playing defence He's actually been back-checking really well this season. Last game against the Flyers for instance... In other news, FUUUUU-- https://twitter.com/russianmachine/status/958753580550410240
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Chad Sexington posted:He's actually been back-checking really well this season. Last game against the Flyers for instance... This wouldn't be as worrisome if it were a one-off thing but Barry just can't help scratching young players in the postseason either.
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Mind_Taker posted:This wouldn't be as worrisome if it were a one-off thing but Barry just can't help scratching young players in the postseason either. See: Schmidt, Nate. It's just infuriating to see him benched for not doing anything... but when Trotz does decide to play him, it's like 8 minutes alongside DSP and Stephenson. How are you supposed to put up points like that?
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young guys gotta earn their icetime by playing mistake free hockey 100% of the time but vets will work through it and fart
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Levitate posted:young guys gotta earn their icetime by playing mistake free hockey 100% of the time but vets will work through it and fart Coaches tend to conflate emotional maturity off the ice with on ice defensive responsibility. The two are wholly unrelated, but it sure feels like the kid who's dating three women at once and partying with his buddies on off days isn't doing the little things as well as the 29 year old married guy who spent his weekend golfing.
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Duckman2008 posted:I still don’t know who the hell Goulbourne is. "Energy guy" seems to be the term thrown around. He's stapled to the 4th line and seems to at least be a decent enough sparkplug that forechecks well. I think he's gotten something like 6-8 minutes so he's not exactly leaned on much. Coatsey can't shut the gently caress up about how badly he wants to see him fight someone but he hasn't seemed to be much of an agitator so far. E: lol https://twitter.com/wyshynski/status/958759902528393219 DJExile fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Jan 31, 2018 |
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Pornographic Memory posted:It's funny though because I swear when it's the playoffs or some other random game that he decides is important you can instantly tell because he'll actually seriously battle for pucks. Yeah in important games he will deign to take some contact and occasionally even throw a hit. I honestly don't care that he generally doesn't do either though. He has his own unique style and it works super well, so who gives a poo poo if he doesn't hit or like to go in the corners? And yeah his back checking has been on point this season.
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Ginette Reno posted:Yeah in important games he will deign to take some contact and occasionally even throw a hit. When your other core players are Crosby, Malkin, Letang, and now Murray, having a player of comparable impact who actually plays 82 games a season is a pretty big asset so I'm basically agreeing with you. It's just really funny that he can actually play like he does and get away with it, because there's no doubt a lot of old school hockey people would be driven up a wall by it. Kind of dovetailing in with this and the discussion about younger players, this Post-Gazette article a couple weeks ago had some pretty interesting quotes from Crosby and Sullivan regarding playing young players on the Penguins' top lines. quote:Younger players tend to be fast and play with a sense of urgency. Crosby likes that. He also likes how eager they are to learn and how willing they are to adapt their game. The idea that younger players, aside from their speed and energy, are actually better players to play with Crosby because they're more willing to adapt their play to fit with him is an interesting perspective. An older player is probably going to stick with what's kept them in the league until this point, whereas a new guy who isn't secure in his status as a regular NHL player is more malleable.
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ThinkTank posted:There's also the possibility that Forsberg's injury is worse than originally reported and they'll shuttle someone out to RW. He’s supposedly really close to coming back, seemed like there was a chance he was going to play last night.
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Pornographic Memory posted:The idea that younger players, aside from their speed and energy, are actually better players to play with Crosby because they're more willing to adapt their play to fit with him is an interesting perspective. An older player is probably going to stick with what's kept them in the league until this point, whereas a new guy who isn't secure in his status as a regular NHL player is more malleable. You can actually see this in action with how Sheary/Guentzel/Simon play. They all go to the same areas and play the same type of give and go game that Crosby likes. I think stylistically how he plays definitely has rubbed off on them.
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fits posted:somewhere jarome iginla is roused out of bed by a ringing phone and his nurse gently tucks him back in and says "I'm sorry Jarome. there are no NHL GMs calling today." he rolls over on to his side, and curls the blankets up tight. he begins to cry.
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Aye Doc posted:and his nurse gently tucks him back in and says "I'm sorry Jarome. there are no NHL GMs calling today." he rolls over on to his side, and curls the blankets up tight. he begins to cry. Iginla didn't even make Team Canada at the Olympics. Why hasn't he retired yet?
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