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Think that fucks it up try singing "A Á B D Ð E É" to the same tune.
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If you use any Photoshop-type program and you copy/paste an element it almost always appears what seems to be at a random place on the screen, usually offset from the original by a small amount. This always drove me crazy because it feels chaotic and arbitrary (I know you can paste in place). Today I realized that it’s a very intentional design because if that didn’t happen there’d be no visual feedback for the user to let them know the paste had occurred. fullroundaction has a new favorite as of 05:56 on Jan 31, 2018 |
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Trans-LoafWithTail posted:oh yeah, do the commonwealth countries even do the ABC song? because doesn’t their hosed up “zed” thing gently caress up the whole rhyming structure at the end? Yeah we do the ABC song and our pronunciation of 'Z' does gently caress up the rhyming structure but we just go with it.
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Jan 31, 2018 06:53
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Trans-LoafWithTail posted:oh yeah, do the commonwealth countries even do the ABC song? because doesn’t their hosed up “zed” thing gently caress up the whole rhyming structure at the end? The English way of singing it is possiblyy way more popular than the American way of singing it since RP is how ESL is or at least was taught all over the non-anglophone world. e: What I don't get is how you can make it work without all the letters of the alphabet. I mean Å, Ä, and Ö are an integral part of the lyrics.
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Jan 31, 2018 08:08
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Yeah we do the ABC song and our pronunciation of 'Z' does gently caress up the rhyming structure but we just go with it.
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Jan 31, 2018 18:14
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Having lately decided to spend my work break listening to short podcasts with my eyes closed a few times this week, I just realized that my dad might not have been bullshitting me saying "I'm not asleep, I'm just resting my eyes".
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Feb 1, 2018 19:59
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He was imagining a life where his son didn't have such stupid loving ideas about goddamn everything.
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Trans-LoafWithTail posted:oh yeah, do the commonwealth countries even do the ABC song? because doesn’t their hosed up “zed” thing gently caress up the whole rhyming structure at the end? I learned a version in French class that sounded like a marching tune.
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The German version of the ABC song is a bit ADD:quote:A B C And kids are on their own for the rest of the alphabet.
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Feb 4, 2018 08:29
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pidan posted:The German version of the ABC song is a bit ADD: Huh? I learned the german alphabet to the same tune as the american one.
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Inzombiac posted:Huh? OK there's that too, I guess the one about the cat just left a deeper impression on me 
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Jerry Cotton posted:The English way of singing it is possiblyy way more popular than the American way of singing it since RP is how ESL is or at least was taught all over the non-anglophone world. I have no proof but I think that that era is past. Especially outside of Europe. The thing I came to this thread to post: the country Azerbaijan is linguistically descended from the ancient region/kingdom Atropatene. Basically a dude names Atropatenes got assigned to rule a part of the old kingdom of Media under Alexander the Great, so the place started getting called variations of "Media Atropatene" depending on what language you spoke. The dude and his descendants kept ruling the area as kings but Alexander swiftly died and his empire collapsed, and soon the "Media" part was dropped. The kingdom, later subjugated into the parthian and then sassanid empires and finally becoming generally accepted as an integral part of Iran, was known locally as "Atropatkan". Over 2000 years Atropatkan became Azerbaijan. To make things funnier, the historical Atropatkan/Azerbaijan does not include most of the actual country by that name. The breakaway government in 1918 chose it because it signalled distance from the russian conquerors and embraced the local, iranian-influenced culture. Sort of like if a breakaway Arizona republic named itself "Sonora," I guess? Not bullshit etymology but easily googleable and sourced. Mind blown.
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I was definitely taught British English at school, but the way most people actually learn the language is through consuming media, and that's largely American in origin. Even many British artists seem to affect an American accent when they sing.
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Feb 4, 2018 18:32
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My German friends have English accents and use English slang. It's hilarious to hear them rattle off about someone they don't like in German and then slip in a "daft" in the most posh sounding way.
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That's interesting. Over here, young people are more likely to have an American accent when they speak English. I mean, obviously a Flemish accent first and foremost, but tending towards American English. With older people it will be more ambiguous. I notice when I'm internally re-reading a passage from a book or something, it's definitely in a generic pseudo-American accent distilled from years of consuming English-language media.
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I learnt A B C D E mein Kopf tut mir so weh
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A B C Dad gay so what, H I J K...
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Phlegmish posted:I was definitely taught British English at school, but the way most people actually learn the language is through consuming media, and that's largely American in origin. Even many British artists seem to affect an American accent when they sing. Accents are a funny thing. My father speaks with a very neutral, middle-American accent. His first language was German, second Serbo-Croatian, third English, 4th Latin, 5th Spanish, and then a smattering of others. A bit of Bantu, a bit of Mongolian, lots of language derivatives but not conversational. Now that his mother, my Oma, is dying, he's staying out in western PA where he grew up. My Ota died some years ago so it's his last connection to the "old country" where he was born. My conversations on the phone with him have him regressing to his original American accent. He sounds like he's from western PA. I'm waiting for him to start saying "yinz" at this point. His speech is much more aggressive than normal. I'm flying out there to see her this Friday. I'm guessing he's going to be regressed beyond what I've ever seen before. Instead of his normal northern MN behavior, I'm pretty sure that we'll get into a fist fight about the Steelers or something weird like that. The thing is that, I do the same thing. I always fall into the accents of the area that I'm in too. Especially under stress.
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I sometimes speak English to my parents to keep their old brains spry, they both speak the language, or claim to anyway. These conversations are shorter than usual and with a lot of halting pauses, but I trust it's worth it.
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Feb 5, 2018 08:04
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Mary Tyler Moore was a real person and not just a character from a TV show.
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I was born in the US but my parents immigrated so they have accents. I don't, in what I'm pretty sure was a conscious effort not to sound like them.
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mostlygray posted:My conversations on the phone with him have him regressing to his original American accent. He sounds like he's from western PA. I'm waiting for him to start saying "yinz" at this point. His speech is much more aggressive than normal. I'm flying out there to see her this Friday. I'm guessing he's going to be regressed beyond what I've ever seen before. Instead of his normal northern MN behavior, I'm pretty sure that we'll get into a fist fight about the Steelers or something weird like that.
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Aphrodite posted:I was born in the US but my parents immigrated so they have accents. I don't, in what I'm pretty sure was a conscious effort not to sound like them. Does that hold true when speaking specifically and exclusively to them as well? People generally develop and use different registers depending on the social situation and interlocutor(s) involved. My parents are West Flemings who ended up in Brabant and made a conscious effort to raise their children in Standard Dutch, while still speaking in West-Flemish dialect to each other. I now speak with an unremarkable Brabantian accent in daily life, but when talking to my parents or my sister, I will automatically use a slightly more 'proper' register simply out of habit - for example, using 'je' instead of 'ge'. I also have a passive knowledge of West-Flemish simply from listening to my parents speak to each other.
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fullroundaction posted:If you use any Photoshop-type program and you copy/paste an element it almost always appears what seems to be at a random place on the screen, usually offset from the original by a small amount. This always drove me crazy because it feels chaotic and arbitrary (I know you can paste in place). If you manually select the element you wish to copy in the layers submenu and drag it over the New Layer icon, it creates a copy in the exact same position.
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Phlegmish posted:Does that hold true when speaking specifically and exclusively to them as well? In the US it goes beyond just register switching, in my experience. Very early on, for example, I learned that southern accents = idiot in pop culture, and so made an active effort to speak unlike my parents. This is super common among southern kids, afaik. And the end result is that not only do I lack a southern accent- despite being a native texan, I can’t sound like one if I try. Most regional or foreign accents are associated with being ignorant and so most kids train themselves out of it from an early age. I’m from rural west Texas but the most common guess as to where my accent is from is “Toronto”
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See also the lower-class Boston accent. I lived with somebody with that accent for ten years, so when we spoke to each other (I'm a Texan), we sounded like normal people, but around my family I drop into Texan mumbling he can't understand, and when somebody cut us off in traffic, he'd go full Denis FUCKIN Leary.
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Bad Angus! Bad!
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My best friend is Australian and his parents are from India and whilst he has a strong Australian accent I got the shock of my life when he answered his phone to them and suddenly changed to an incredibly think Indian accent. I thought he was joking at first and he didn't realise he did it.
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Phlegmish posted:Does that hold true when speaking specifically and exclusively to them as well? Maybe once upon a time, but not anymore.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:In the US it goes beyond just register switching, in my experience. Very early on, for example, I learned that southern accents = idiot in pop culture, and so made an active effort to speak unlike my parents. This is super common among southern kids, afaik. And the end result is that not only do I lack a southern accent- despite being a native texan, I can’t sound like one if I try. Same. I grew up in Memphis and friends in family would often give me a "where're you from?" because I consciously over-corrected my accent. I drop into Southerisms occasionally now that I am middle-aged and have a half-life-time of living to define me instead of how I speak. Also, "y'all" is the best word and everyone should use it.
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Trans-LoafWithTail posted:oh yeah, do the commonwealth countries even do the ABC song? because doesn’t their hosed up “zed” thing gently caress up the whole rhyming structure at the end? We find a way to make it work. La-Zed Boy recliners and the rapper Jay-Zed are awkward though.
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Aleph Null posted:Same. Y'all is an objectively necessary word in the english language. However, I cannot say it without sounding like a carpetbagger. I've developed the exact opposite way. After living in Ontario few a few years and already having a weak rear end drawl, I now say stuff like "soarry" and do the east Canada/midwestern tonal thing a lot where you go "SoooOO? or whatever. Meanwhile my parents and grandparents still say "melk" and "harses" and "dayum"
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rodbeard posted:Mary Tyler Moore was a real person and not just a character from a TV show. Her real name was Laura Petrie, although when she divorced her husband Rob she changed it to Mary Richards.
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rodbeard posted:Mary Tyler Moore was a real person and not just a character from a TV show. So was Dick Van Dyke
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Nudity in art is when a clothed person disrobes while nakedness is a natural state. Even though I've always known the phrase, 'naked as a jay bird' and 'nudity is in the eye of the beholder.' MariusLecter has a new favorite as of 16:11 on Feb 6, 2018 |
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MariusLecter posted:Nudity in art is when a clothed person disrobes while nakedness is a natural state. Again.
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MariusLecter posted:Nudity in art is when a clothed person disrobes while nakedness is a natural state. 
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MariusLecter posted:Nudity in art is when a clothed person disrobes while nakedness is a natural state. What?
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Sorry folks but it looks that first one is actually correct. http://www.artandpopularculture.com/On_the_difference_between_nakedness_and_nudity
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Pocket Billiards posted:We find a way to make it work. Zed Zed Top
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Memento posted:Sorry folks but it looks that first one is actually correct. Just because one dude thinks English speakers as a whole make a distinction between nudity and nakedness doesn't mean they do. I mean, we all know they don't.
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