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The Pussy Boss posted:Latest pitch clock developments: so literally not an option
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JoeCL posted:Also I missed it did we talk about how the Nats signed Miguel Montero to a minor league contract after getting him cut from the Cubs last year? I know the Nats are desperate for any sort of cheap catching help, but lol you literally got him fired last year! You know he's bad! He got DFA'd because he sandbagged Arrieta to reporters. Theo was apparently livid and apparently made the decision to cut him on the spot.
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Feb 1, 2018 23:43
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Spoeank posted:so literally not an option Saying "We'll just do it anyway" so the players will agree to the proposal to hold the clock off for one year and then the owners can point back and say "But the players agreed"
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Feb 1, 2018 23:50
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Intruder posted:Saying "We'll just do it anyway" so the players will agree to the proposal to hold the clock off for one year and then the owners can point back and say "But the players agreed" Manfred is impressively scummy. But Clark is going to eat this up like it's Manna from heaven and talk about ensuring that the long history of collaboration and cooperation between the MLBPA and the owners continues and their relationship grows better every day, as evidenced by this deal.
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Feb 1, 2018 23:51
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JoeCL posted:The years on a contract like this are basically to boost the overall value of the contract, everybody knows Darvish isn't gonna be worth 27.5m in 7 years. Darvish wants the extra guaranteed money way more than the extra years. The past few years are basically supposed to be bad. Honestly this is another piece of the "the market is broken" argument, these contracts don't really make that much sense but they were the norm until recently and the market is sort of built around them. If teams aren't willing to do this then players are going to lose a lot of revenue relative to what the owners are getting. Oh I know, and to be fair I totally get why Cobb/Arrieta/Darvish are angling for more years since otherwise they'd end up stuck with their contracts running out in their mid 30's with little hope of signing another big deal. I just don't think they're going to get them, and I don't blame the Cubs for not wanting to ink an expensive contract with a pitcher that will last beyond when their young core hits free agency. quote:Also I missed it did we talk about how the Nats signed Miguel Montero to a minor league contract after getting him cut from the Cubs last year? I know the Nats are desperate for any sort of cheap catching help, but lol you literally got him fired last year! You know he's bad!  nice. I legit hope Montero does well, he had a disaster of a game and said some poo poo in the heat of the moment that got him cut, but otherwise he seems like an incredibly good dude.
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Feb 1, 2018 23:53
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So if the union doesnt approve something, the owners can implement it anyway? What retarded rear end CBA did the union sign?
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Feb 1, 2018 23:53
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:What retarded rear end CBA did the union sign? One that the owners wrote for them.
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Feb 1, 2018 23:53
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Inspector_666 posted:Driveline are the ones who the "one degree on delivery is one foot at the plate" bit came from, and even they don't really have a satisfactory answer for how to refine command aside from repetition of a proper throwing motion, pretty much. Also while I'm posting pictures of theoretical strike zones in different counts, every single person who reads this thread needs to read this article from Baseball Prospectus about the very real problems between us an robo-umpires. quote:Even if you had optical detection and software to automatically set the top and bottom of the strike zone, we have the same issues with the accuracy and tolerance of that technology as we do with the radar systems, as well as potential for hacking or tampering to favor one team or another. That of course is if a machine setting of the zone were even feasible; it’s unlikely that a machine would be able to accurately track the top/bottom of the zone in real time as a batter moved in the box. There would also be the likelihood that batters would develop ways to game the optical top/bottom zone detection system much like catchers have developed techniques for pitch framing.
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Feb 1, 2018 23:54
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The robo-ump solution to the top-bottom of the zone seems clear to me. You set it based on some standard of player measurements, not active tracking of their body as they stand in the box. But that is a minor problem compared to the other hurdles.
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Feb 1, 2018 23:56
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Good Dog posted:All those guys are better than Darvish Scherzer > Darvish > Price/Greinke/Lester, IMO
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Feb 1, 2018 23:58
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bawfuls posted:The robo-ump solution to the top-bottom of the zone seems clear to me. You set it based on some standard of player measurements, not active tracking of their body as they stand in the box. But that is a minor problem compared to the other hurdles. Yeah, that's not the most demonstrative pull quote, but it hints at the fact that you need to change some very foundational baseball rules (literally "What is the strike zone") before you can really even consider going to a robo-ump behind the plate.
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Feb 1, 2018 23:59
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Inspector_666 posted:Also while I'm posting pictures of theoretical strike zones in different counts, every single person who reads this thread needs to read this article from Baseball Prospectus about the very real problems between us an robo-umpires. Look forward to people hacking the ump.exe
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Feb 2, 2018 00:05
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Timby posted:He got DFA'd because he sandbagged Arrieta to reporters. Theo was apparently livid and apparently made the decision to cut him on the spot. It sounds funnier my way  . Sydin posted:
He was a disaster as a hitter with the Blue Jays after he left the Cubs last year but he's not really that far out from being an effective hitter. Trying to start fresh might do him some good. And hey, he doesn't have to try to throw out Trea Turner any more! Its probably not a bad reclamation project, but my gut reaction to the signing was "lol really?"
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Feb 2, 2018 00:07
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I recall an interview with Pedro where he described good control as hitting a target the size of a playing card. Probably BS but the image stuck with me.
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Feb 2, 2018 00:07
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Inspector_666 posted:Yeah, that's not the most demonstrative pull quote, but it hints at the fact that you need to change some very foundational baseball rules (literally "What is the strike zone") before you can really even consider going to a robo-ump behind the plate. But if the zone is defined rigorously enough to use a machine to call it, then it can be tweaked and adjusted over time for desired results with much better resolution than we have currently.
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Feb 2, 2018 00:14
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JoeCL posted:It sounds funnier my way He was a great hitter in 2015/early 2016 but then he got injured and fell off a cliff for the rest of the year (that G7 WS hit and G1 NLCS salami, though  ) Everybody was predicting a huge bounceback year for him in 2017 based on his peripherals, but on top of still not really being able to hit he also lost what little ability he'd had to throw out base runners, which was a bad combo with Arrieta who's by the metrics one of the worst in the league at holding runners. He's also a very good pitch framer. All in all not a bad lottery ticket for the Nats to gamble on.
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Feb 2, 2018 00:26
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I played 1 year in an amateur league, and had a guy who was drafted by the Rays out of HS on my team. Granted it was like the super late rounds, and he chose to go to college instead, but instead ended up getting a tumor in his leg. The surgery to remove it developed into a blood clot complication so he couldn't play in college, effectively ruining his career. Dude threw a 1 hitter for us, and all of his pitches were just under 80mph. All of his throws had movement. I'd play catch with him and the ball would always snap at the last second, and I'd whiff on catching the ball since I wasn't used to it. Despite all his talent, his work ethic was super questionable, even for a amateur league. He batted and was really good, but if he drove them into a corner, he wouldn't try for extra bases (might have been a result of his leg surgery but that was 10 years ago), and if we pulled him out of a game early, he would pack up his stuff and leave.
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Feb 2, 2018 00:48
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Do any of you know if there's somewhere with a list of the length of every game for a given season? I know where to find the average length per year/team, etc. but not individual games.
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Feb 2, 2018 01:51
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Salvor_Hardin posted:I recall an interview with Pedro where he described good control as hitting a target the size of a playing card. Probably BS but the image stuck with me. Maybe he meant any part of the ball hitting any part of the card. That’s pretty generous and falls into the gray area of corner nibbling pretty well I think.
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Feb 2, 2018 01:59
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STAC Goat posted:I'm buying a Rockies hat and naming them my 2018 NL team if they record video of Dinger's eyes creepily moving around in extreme closeup and play it during key opposing at bats. I know this was from yesterday, but: 
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Feb 2, 2018 02:08
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will_colorado posted:I know this was from yesterday, but: A rotating wheel. Turning an axle. Grinding. Bolthead. Linear gearbox. Falling sky. Seven holy stakes. A docked ship. A portal to another world. A thin rope tied to a thick rope. A torn harness. Parabolic gearbox. Expanding universe. Time controlled by slipping cogwheels. Existence of God. Swimming with open water in all directions. Drowning. A prayer written in blood. A prayer written in time-devouring snakes with human eyes.
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Feb 2, 2018 02:16
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Inspector_666 posted:Do any of you know if there's somewhere with a list of the length of every game for a given season? I know where to find the average length per year/team, etc. but not individual games. edit: Team game-by-bame schedule tables for each season have time of game as one of the columns.
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Feb 2, 2018 02:18
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Miguel will forever be known as the guy who hit the most important insurance run in Cubs history. Cue Pat Hughes insurance plug.
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Feb 2, 2018 05:13
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bawfuls posted:Game lengths are listed on bref pages for individual games like this (under "Other Info"), but I don't know if they're tabulated anywhere. Awesome, thanks.
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Feb 2, 2018 05:30
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Mustached Demon posted:Miguel will forever be known as the guy who hit the most important insurance run in Cubs history. the fucken grand slam miggy owns
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Feb 2, 2018 05:53
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A large medical group in the Ohio Valley area has pulled its advertising from Nutting’s newspapers over his bad ownership of the Pirates.
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Feb 2, 2018 15:40
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Here’s the Post Gazette story on that.
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Feb 2, 2018 15:58
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can someone post this so I don't have to turn off adblock e: vvvvv thanks friend vvvvv IcePhoenix fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Feb 2, 2018 |
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Feb 2, 2018 16:00
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IcePhoenix posted:can someone post this so I don't have to turn off adblock quote:Pirates owner Bob Nutting has been under fire from some fans since the team traded outfielder Andrew McCutchen to the San Francisco Giants last month. Now his family’s core business is taking a hit, too.
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Feb 2, 2018 16:01
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This seems... significant https://twitter.com/bvanwagenen/status/959461867990155265
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Feb 2, 2018 17:35
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"Alpha males" made me think it was a joke
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Feb 2, 2018 17:41
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Yeah that line was bad.
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Feb 2, 2018 17:41
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i think the general rule is if you unironically use the phrase "alpha male" in a piece of negotiation, you've lost the negotiation
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Feb 2, 2018 17:45
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I rolled my eyes real hard at that line.
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Feb 2, 2018 17:50
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will_colorado posted:I know this was from yesterday, but: https://twitter.com/psaundersdp/status/959464897502355456
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Feb 2, 2018 17:51
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bawfuls posted:Yeah that line was bad. "We need a word-- maybe a phrase-- that describes our players as what they are: the best of the best." "What about 'Alpha Males'?" "Perfect! Just like lions! I bet no one's ever thought of that before! *pushes send*"
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Feb 2, 2018 18:13
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I was just about to post this. Holland should fire his agent into the sun.
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Feb 2, 2018 18:19
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bawfuls posted:This seems... significant It's an agent who's pissed that he isn't getting his commissions.
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Feb 2, 2018 18:20
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Timby posted:It's an agent who's pissed that he isn't getting his commissions. I was gonna ask who Brodie Van Wagenen even was. This is embarrassing and the players union is probably going to be pissed at him for releasing it. though I guess that would require the union to have even a single clue about what's going on at all
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will_colorado posted:I was just about to post this. Holland should fire his agent into the sun. Pretty much. I'd like to think Holland was like "Naw, you can do better." and then 5mins later it was announced that the Rockies signed Davis.
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