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I said come in! posted:Why is it a problem that MAME was used? Speed runners use emulators with a heavy use of save states all of the time, not to mention exploits and glitches. All of the top Super Mario speed runs for example are with exploits. This is not speed running, and there are different categories of speedrunning that either do or do not allow for various glitches.
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 22:12 |
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I said come in! posted:Why is it a problem that MAME was used? Speed runners use emulators with a heavy use of save states all of the time, not to mention exploits and glitches. All of the top Super Mario speed runs for example are with exploits. Because he claimed he achieved those scores on original hardware, without using exploits and glitches or save states. Like the possibility that he used save states is really messed up.
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 22:12 |
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How are these scores verified anyway
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 22:14 |
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itshappening.gif now give me King of Kong 2
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 22:14 |
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there are no more heroes
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 22:15 |
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an actual dog posted:Because he claimed he achieved those scores on original hardware, without using exploits and glitches or save states. Like the possibility that he used save states is really messed up. Donkey Kong has been forever tarnished. :/
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 22:17 |
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:How are these scores verified anyway Everything is taped and in some cases hardware is submitted for verification. The post on Twingalaxies pulls apart the recording and analyzes how the screen is rendered and it appears that his screens are being rendered by an emulator and not original hardware. It's quite possible that all of his high scores were Tool Assisted.
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 22:17 |
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Would anyone even care if it wasn't Billy Mitchell attached to the accusation?
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 22:20 |
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:How are these scores verified anyway They're not
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 22:21 |
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Really Pants posted:there are no more heroes whens no more heroes 3 anyway
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 22:21 |
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I said come in! posted:Would anyone even care if it wasn't Billy Mitchell attached to the accusation? Stuff like this happens a lot, it literally happened earlier this week on the Atari 2600 Dragster as pointed out above. It's a "big deal" because, yeah, it's Billy Mitchell.
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 22:22 |
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I said come in! posted:Would anyone even care if it wasn't Billy Mitchell attached to the accusation? I would care if it were Steve Wiebe because he seems like a cool dude Similarly I care about it being Billy Mitchell because, in the words of Billy Mitchell's best friend, "gently caress you, Billy Mitchell"
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 22:23 |
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Propaganda Hour posted:Everything is taped and in some cases hardware is submitted for verification. The post on Twingalaxies pulls apart the recording and analyzes how the screen is rendered and it appears that his screens are being rendered by an emulator and not original hardware.
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 22:25 |
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homeless snail posted:yeah and remember that the big climactic ending of king of kong was mitchell refusing to play in public and instead submitting an extremely sketchy videotape conveniently immediately after wiebe beat his score lmao Yeah, it felt like that episode of Seinfeld where Jerry refuses to run.
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 22:27 |
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The Humble Bundle this month is Dark Souls III with the DLC. Dark Souls III wasn't well received among fans though, right?
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 22:27 |
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I said come in! posted:Why is it a problem that MAME was used? Speed runners use emulators with a heavy use of save states all of the time, not to mention exploits and glitches. All of the top Super Mario speed runs for example are with exploits. With old arcade games the hardware is really important because every different build came with different quirks and different bugs. The way the code interacts with the hardware makes a huge difference in different version of different early game and when Twin Galaxies keeps data it is by the version of the hardware. Mame can be anything. Everything is being emulated and while you can force certain things it's hard to tell what version is being run, what is going on behind the scenes and what the quirks of that version are. Mame is fine in some communities but not the ones that Mitchell is known in. Like, one of the things that really annoys me about King of Kong is that they sort of willfully ignore the idea that the problem with the record isn't that it isn't verified correctly, but rather that it's the DK/DKjr version of the cabinet rather than the original DK cabinet. Like so much of the movie is a non thing if it just states that both versions of the game have different records but the movie basically just ignores this because that would gently caress up their narrative. Here Mitchell isn't just using a different hardware set, he's using one that isn't allowed because it's basically an impossible to accurately quantify.
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 22:27 |
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I said come in! posted:The Humble Bundle this month is Dark Souls III with the DLC. Dark Souls III wasn't well received among fans though, right? the Dark Souls series' fan reception is as twisted as its timeline, play whichever you want and see what you enjoy.
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 22:33 |
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It's also funny because Mitchell initially disputed Wiebe's record because he suspected Wiebe had colluded with Mr. Awesome to cheat, even though the kind of cheating they accused him of is something that you'd literally have to be an engineer at Nintendo to pull off
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 22:35 |
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My Rival Who Works At Nintendo
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 22:41 |
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My god! Is nothing sacred anymore!?
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 22:44 |
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shigeru miyamoto walks up to a donkey kong machine, everyone gathers around. not to see him play it, but to try and learn the secrets of the nintendo cheats
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 22:52 |
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I said come in! posted:The Humble Bundle this month is Dark Souls III with the DLC. Dark Souls III wasn't well received among fans though, right? I think a lot of people liked it but were just kind of getting tired of the formula? (Me, anyway) You can only be tricked by a dragon on a bridge so many times.
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 23:00 |
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Why does everyone but me seem to know about the pro donkey kong scene
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 23:01 |
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They made a movie about it
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 23:02 |
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Everyone follows DK because it gave us 2 of gaming's most beloved characters: Pauline and barrels of oil.
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 23:04 |
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The Dark Souls games are all so good and so similar that the minor differences between them get blown up into massive ruinous catastrophes. If you're not a super hardcore fan they're not very distinguishable and if you liked one you'll probably like all the others enough for them to be worth paying for.
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 23:05 |
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I said come in! posted:The Humble Bundle this month is Dark Souls III with the DLC. Dark Souls III wasn't well received among fans though, right? dark souls 3 had some issues and some bad bosses (most of the dragons) but it also had some of the best bosses in the series (the cloak knight guy, the shadow hunter dudes). i liked it well enough. but yeah, the dark souls games arent that different. bloodborne plays different from souls but in the souls series they're all basically built on the same framework
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 23:10 |
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And then there's me, the idiot still struggling with Demon Souls because dammit I bought the original Asian release in Singapore and I need to close this chapter of my life!
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 23:10 |
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al-azad posted:And then there's me, the idiot still struggling with Demon Souls because dammit I bought the original Asian release in Singapore and I need to close this chapter of my life! you can do it, i believe in you!
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 23:11 |
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I have never played any of the Dark Souls games. With the first one being remade I'm not sure what order I should play them in now
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 23:11 |
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:I have never played any of the Dark Souls games. With the first one being remade I'm not sure what order I should play them in now whichever
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 23:13 |
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Play the first one.
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 23:14 |
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play all of them. im going to beat bloodborne and then get the remaster of 1 cause I never beat Sen's Fortress, it's all very exciting
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 23:16 |
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also check out this hot joke King of Wrong
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 23:16 |
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Milly Bitchel
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 23:16 |
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Dark souls 2 is okay, but the bosses and characters aren't as interesting, and while the art assets are 'better', they look worse without ds1's film grain filter. There's a lot more items though, if that's your thing.
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 23:17 |
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Play Bloodborne last because it's too good and you won't be able to go back to less good ones.
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 23:18 |
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Saint Freak posted:Play Bloodborne last because it's too good and you won't be able to go back to less good ones. Uh well considering I'm playing through Bloodborne a second time with the DLC right now that might be a problem. After that on my Soulslike schedule is Knack and then maybe Nioh DLC
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 23:21 |
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should play knack last, once you play it you won't be able to go back to less good videogames, which is all of them
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 23:23 |
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:How are these scores verified anyway For high profile cases they'd usually have judges on hand at events and things, but seeing how chummy the various founders/judges were with each other it kinda calls into question that entire clique.
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